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[qball305]

I bought this trombone at a flea market and found out that it is Serial Number 6.  I am trying to find out a few things. 

1.  How much is it worth?
2.  Does anyone know of any earlier numbers that are still around or is this the oldest?

[Thomas Matta]

Model D47 - serial number 6...

Wild!

I've never seen the model D47. I would love to know more about it, too!

Do you have more pictures you could post?

Did it come with an original case?

[qball305]

I found out that it is actually not a model d47.  They were experimenting at the time.  It is actually a model 17T.  No case unfortunately.

[Thomas Matta]

Did they date it for you? Or give you other specs?

[qball305]

It was made in 1929.  It is a dual bore 500/514.  It also has a compression fitting (like a mouthpiece) to attach the bell to the slide instead of being threaded.

Here are a few more pictures

[elmsandr]

Beautiful!  It's the oldest I have seen by a little bit.  Unfortunately, it probably isn't worth a ton, but it'll be worth a couple of clams if you can find the right person.

What size is the the bell? It looks a little larger than I would have guessed.  But then again, the bore sounds larger than I would have guessed as well.

Cheers,
Andy

[Thomas Matta]

It's really a beauty - congrats!

Have you played it?

[dj kennedy]

doesnt need a  case 
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todd clontz   and bones malone will know  more 
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 the bach loyalist   has  info on the trumpets 
   most applies to trombones
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i have  no  260  a model 6 
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are the inner slides   chrome looking or kinda  gray-yellowish  ????????
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  it could be worth  a lot ?????  demand  is  only from a few collectors
any history  would boost  value 

[Thomas Matta]

I know it doesn't need a case DJ - I'm still curious as to how he found it, and all about the find!

[dj kennedy]

yeah  --15  bucks   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Slipmo]

Wow, nice find! That's the oldest model 6 I've seen. Would love to see some inner slide pics

[Chris Fidler]

Great find, that horn IS worth some $$$$$ don't let anyone tell you different........ 

[qball305]

Wow, nice find! That's the oldest model 6 I've seen. Would love to see some inner slide pics

It is actually a Model 17T not Model 6.

It has a 7 1/2" bell

I got it for $35

Here are some pictures of the slide:

[dj kennedy]

prolly   made for a  symphony player  --
  no 260  has  nickle inners --its too tight to  use  dunno if they are plated  ???
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 no 6  inners dunno  plated  --looks like smooth wear and has  been  used /played   
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  this  horn  has  picked up the interest of  a  prominent player /collector  and bone buddy who would give it a  good  home
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 35  bucks  -
   thanks for rescuing it from  some beginner  band or worse   
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 value --still computing  --just sold a mv 8 for 2500
  so no  6  could  possibly  be  more 
but  maybe not as  crazy  as 8large  for a williams 4 

It is actually a Model 17T not Model 6.

It has a 7 1/2" bell

I got it for $35

Here are some pictures of the slide:

[Slipmo]

I love the look of the cork barrels!

Last photo request if possible. Could you take a picture of the rim wire? Is it a French bead or standard rim? Also, if you wouldn't mind testing it with a magnet to see if the wire is steel... sorry, nerdy trombone stuff   

Like Chris said, you have something special there and it is worth some money... maybe you should keep it and have it restored.

[qball305]

I love the look of the cork barrels!

Last photo request if possible. Could you take a picture of the rim wire? Is it a French bead or standard rim? Also, if you wouldn't mind testing it with a magnet to see if the wire is steel... sorry, nerdy trombone stuff   

Like Chris said, you have something special there and it is worth some money... maybe you should keep it and have it restored.

The rim is not magnetic.  Here are 2 pics of the rim.

I will definitely NOT have it restored.  I think it is best to leave it how it is and have it be a show piece instead of putting it in playable condition.

[tsmart]

I bet you could double your money on it. 

Nice find. Congrats! 

T.

[dj kennedy]

it looks  well played
 i bet with  a light clean and  slide  adj it  will
   play  again
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  please  let   this go to someone who will love it
 and give it  a good home in  the company of  other
   bach puppies  and kitties 
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BONES  MALONE  WOULD BE AN IDEAL  GUARDIAN AND CAREGIVER  !
   i would  luv to have  it
the early bachs  are special  and this one is the most
 i have heard of a number 14
   

[Leanit]

Nice find! I hereby surrender the claim to have the oldest Bach trombone in the world. Mine is #13, and looks a lot like yours except for some engraving details -- most notably the model number and the serial number style. Mine is a 7 3/8" French beaded 401 bell. Mine is restored with ~.500 inners, silver plated. Plays outstanding, and I use it regularly.

I'll attach some pictures. Other than condition, the only real difference I see is the way the serial number looks on the handslide. Mine says "MD" (medium) and the serial number is below it. But you're correct that these were early days and everything was a one-off experiment. You can see from the shop card that mine went out and back many times before they got it right. I wish I could decypher who those early owners were.

[SilverBone]

I wish I could decypher who those early owners were.

The names look very easy to read to me.  But none of them are familiar, if that's your point.

Henry Ulbricht
Jack Russell
Robert Asche(n)bach
J.M. Curti(n)
Joe S. Cohan
Hager Marie House for A. A. Griep