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Title: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: BRASSerie on Oct 09, 2014, 09:58AM
Auditions for the L.A. Phil principal trombone position were supposed to be done yesterday.  Any news on if they offered the job or trials to anyone, or who happened to be in the running this time?  With Stacy's site being a bit behind due to her other commitments, I figured I'd ask here.



Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: LX on Oct 09, 2014, 06:06PM
Just heard that no finalists were chosen.


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: Bmalta on Oct 09, 2014, 06:20PM
Just heard that no finalists were chosen.

Wow. So who has been playing principal? Jim Miller?


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: Burgerbob on Oct 09, 2014, 06:30PM
Wow. So who has been playing principal? Jim Miller?

He told me he's been playing in it a lot lately.


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: BRASSerie on Oct 09, 2014, 07:54PM
Nitzan set the bar pretty high.


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: robcat2075 on Oct 09, 2014, 08:59PM
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Just heard that no finalists were chosen.

So... what do they do next in this sort of situation? I presume this means no one acceptable applied.

Do they send out headhunters to try to lure someone they know?


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: davidbinder on Oct 10, 2014, 01:14AM
http://trombone.myartsonline.com/news.htm#AUD


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: BigRedTruck on Oct 10, 2014, 04:46AM
It is nice to see John Sipher's name show up.  I enjoyed his playing during his tenure in the  Syracuse Symphony before it folded.


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: LX on Oct 10, 2014, 08:52AM
Just to confirm...spoke briefly to a couple LA Phil members and John was the one player chosen from the audition to do a one week trial. He came all the way through the prelims too!!


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: BRASSerie on Oct 10, 2014, 03:27PM
Just to confirm...spoke briefly to a couple LA Phil members and John was the one player chosen from the audition to do a one week trial. He came all the way through the prelims too!!

Thanks, Alex.  Does that mean that Jim Miller isn't in the running too, or only that he didn't have to audition from the prelims all the way through the finals?


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: LX on Oct 11, 2014, 04:14AM
I believe Jim will also be given a trial. The CBA for the LA Phil also gives management the right to invite other players at their discretion. I believe that is how Nitzan, and Steve Witser before him were selected.


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: Bobmranger on Oct 11, 2014, 09:35AM
But Jim Miller plays first trombone every week now anyway. How is a trial different?


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: Jay Heltzer on Oct 11, 2014, 04:51PM
Taking an educated guess here...

Trial weeks could be scheduled when the music director is in town, conducting a program, as well as playing substantial rep.  It doesn't serve a purpose to put a player through a week with a guest, and only an overture to play.



Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: LX on Oct 12, 2014, 08:39PM
Different orchestras do things differently obviously, but in previous auditions with the LA Philharmonic, in addition to whatever rep they performed , candidates given a week long trial have played solo and section excerpts with the whole orchestra, sometimes tacked on the end of a rehearsal. This is often the first time the conductor and committee has really heard the player in the context of the actual job. There are often other playing events that might be created the week a player is in town. Sometimes it is a solo recital or some chamber music reading.

If Jim is indeed doing a week long trial, I think this will be his fourth time. He really has little left to prove to anyone. He is a fantastic player who can obviously "do the job". If they hire someone else, they still have him in the section! Which is why incumbent acting principals are often at a disadvantage. "Let's hire ANOTHER great player for principal. Then well have BOTH the best players we have heard." The same thing would happen by offering the new person the Jim's job if they hire Jim on Principal. The orchestra management can still bring in outside players for week long trials too. Very often offers go out to players holding positions in other "top tier" orchestras.

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Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: BGuttman on Oct 12, 2014, 08:52PM
Is this how they managed to have Peebles and Sauer as co-principals for many years?


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: BRASSerie on Oct 27, 2014, 04:59PM
Some clarification on the situation . . .

"A quick update regarding LA Phil's latest Principal Trombone search" (http://allisyar.com/2014/10/27/a-quick-update-regarding-la-phils-latest-principal-trombone-search/)


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: Bmalta on Oct 27, 2014, 10:02PM
He played with cake? He has my vote, because it matters


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: jennconducts on Dec 06, 2014, 01:00AM
If Jim is indeed doing a week long trial, I think this will be his fourth time. He really has little left to prove to anyone. He is a fantastic player who can obviously "do the job". If they hire someone else, they still have him in the section! Which is why incumbent acting principals are often at a disadvantage. "Let's hire ANOTHER great player for principal. Then well have BOTH the best players we have heard." The same thing would happen by offering the new person the Jim's job if they hire Jim on Principal. The orchestra management can still bring in outside players for week long trials too. Very often offers go out to players holding positions in other "top tier" orchestras.

This.  Jim IS a fantastic player and has been doing all of the principal parts and sounding great.

Jenn


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: Brassworks on Feb 04, 2015, 08:21AM
Any news on this?


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: BRASSerie on May 15, 2015, 04:16PM
FWIW:  Colin Williams is playing as guest principal with the LA Phil for their four concerts this weekend.


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: apstanger on May 15, 2015, 09:49PM
RTP News says that Sipher won the Colorado Symphony audition. Perhaps this means LA gave the job to Miller? http://trombone.myartsonline.com/news.htm#AUD


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: BRASSerie on May 15, 2015, 10:50PM
Actually, Jim Miller has not been made Principal in LA, and was not being considered for the job at the same time John Sipher was doing his trial this past fall.  That said, he remains acting principal while the 1st chair remains vacant, and continues to be doing solid music-making in the process.


Title: Re: Los Angeles Philharmonic principal audition -- any news?
Post by: BassBoneFL on May 16, 2015, 10:49AM
Lisa Albrecht played the Asian tour with them a few months ago.

These may be trials or it may just be a substitute situation. Something will be announced when we are meant to know. Until then it's all idle chatter.