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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Best non adhesive handgrip tape on: Today at 12:27 PM
Mole Skin. Keeps your hands warm in the winter.  Good!
2  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Multiphonics Balance Singing/Playing on: Oct 12, 2017, 06:57AM
I've heard stories that Albert Manglesdorff could be found in a practice room with a piano, hitting notes on the keyboard and then singing the same pitch just as loudly as he could manage. Seems to have worked for him...  Good!
3  Creation and Performance / Other Musicians and Ensembles / Re: Bari Sax cadenza... on: Sep 14, 2017, 06:07AM
And when I saw the title of the thread, the first thing I thought of was this:


One of the all-time classics. Bruce's solo starts at about 4:00, breakout at 4:55. I saw him perform it with Woody Herman's band at a Jazz Night at Disney world back in the 70's, sitting on the ground about 5 feet from him. Blew. My. Mind.
4  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: Seeing the Unseen: Douglas Yeo playing trombone in a MRI scanner on: Aug 23, 2017, 06:01AM
Like you, I am bookmarking this for the future 'cos I don't have time to examine it right now, but I remember when Sarah Willis did this, I think she used a plastic mouthpiece + a long tube...? (Again, not taking the time to rewatch the video, I might be wrong)


Some of the photos show Doug in a very similar situation; looks like a mouthpiece & plastic tube running to a bell down between his feet. It's a fascinating write-up, you will enjoy it when you get the time.
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 100H on: Aug 16, 2017, 11:47AM
 The bell was 8", and it had the curved hand brace like the Minick horn.  An old-timer in the area had a Minick horn, and the 100H looked quite similiar.  I don't know how the Minick played, because he wouldn't let me try it.  The 100H played much better than the 1982 King 2B I was playing at the time (a terrible horn).
Rod Glusac
LOLing a little bit here, I had two section mates in the Air Force that had Minick horns, one was a 100-H style tenor & the other a bass. I never played so much as a lick on either one! They were very protective of their babies. They did have some great stories about Larry, as they were stationed at March AFB in SoCal & would drive there periodically to see the progress as they were being built.
6  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / Re: Doug Elliott in Atlanta 7/19-20 on: Jul 18, 2017, 08:21AM
We are really looking forward to hosting you at the Atlanta Trombone Ensemble rehearsal Thursday evening!

For those of you who are in the area and interested, we will be at the Mt. Paran Church, 2055 Mt. Paran Road, Atlanta 30327.  Doors will open at 6:30, the plan is to do a little trombone choir playing and let Doug do the Doug thing!
Hi Todd,
Sent you a PM. Living in Atl, hoping to come to the rehearsal.  Hi

7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Doug Elliott on: Jul 07, 2017, 05:51AM
Even with all the noise and activities of the room he was thorough with his efforts.

Thanks, Bob
"He's a good man, and thorough."  :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. Let me add that Doug recently did some work for me. He threaded a Stork mouthpiece to use a DE rim, and I'm totally pleased with the results. I look forward to meeting him at some point.
8  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Is it okay to puff your cheeks when you play? on: Jun 30, 2017, 11:15AM
I have always advocated not blowing your cheeks out.

If you do, you are turning yourself into a set of bagpipes! with your mouth being the bag. You are then not controlling the expulsion of the air correctly but relying on the elasticity of your cheeks which I don't think is good practice. . . . 

. . . . . .



It can come in handy while circular breathing, which the bagpipes analogy reminds me of. That, however, is a whole 'nother subject.  ;-)
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Yamaha 682G Information on: Jun 28, 2017, 06:36AM
I have no idea about Anniversary models.  The Yamaha 682 had a yellow brass bell and the 682G had a gold brass (85/15) bell.

There was no gold plating when I bought mine.  Back then only mouthpieces and custom horns were plated with gold.  And the Yamaha horns made for the Canadian Brass.
The Canadian Brass had a whole set of instruments made that were completely gold-plated; I played Gene Watts' horn for a couple of minutes after a CB concert in Moose Jaw way back in... 1978?  :-0 Amazed :-0
They were some of the very first Yamaha Custom models. I don't know a model number for his horn. My memory is a bit sketchy, but I believe part of the conversation I had w/him at the time involved Yamaha & Schilke doing some cross-pollination on either the design or manufacturing side of things. I may be way off, he may have been talking about his mouthpiece! Anyone with better knowledge of the history here?
10  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Unboxing the wessex tenor trombone stand on: Jun 16, 2017, 05:31AM
These work great on all of my trombone stands.  Better than a sock shaped for a foot. 


Wow, there really is a niche market for everything! TIL there's something else I want to buy.  :D :D :D
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: For techs : 2B bell on 607 II on: Jun 07, 2017, 06:53AM
Hey guys, thanks for your reviews :)

In fact yes, the Tempo bell is not "sterling" nickel, just nickel-plated. But definitely thicker. I've had a 2B before and i can tell the difference. With the same slide and mouthpiece, the Tempo bell sounds way brighter and is opening up literally forever before the sound cracks if you push lot of air through the horn. NOT the case of the 2B bell which gives up pretty quickly. I play regulary in salsa bands and the Tempo is absolutely the hamer !  Evil

I know that's purely a matter of personal taste and style, but i'm in love with this Tempo bell sound. I like clear and bright sound rather than dark and mellow tone. That's why i'd like to keep it !

Oh yes, I was a bit brief on my previous post. Definitely a plated bell on the old Tempo. I tried playing it in a few concert band rehearsals, but it wasn't really ideal for that, at least in that section &  group. Also, Doug's note about the intonation is something to be aware of. My other horn at the time was an 88h, so it was a big change to trade off between the two.

lou2cv's story sounds familiar; I believe the tech that did the work on mine went thru the same process. The final product looks very cool. Congrats & enjoy!
12  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / Re: The Heavens Atheist Gospel Trombone Choir on: May 31, 2017, 06:12AM
You're doing Bob's work there, son.  :D
That's a righteous sounding ensemble.  Good! Some great video clips on Jacob's web site for those of us that can't make the commute to NYC.
13  Creation and Performance / Music, Concerts and Recordings / Re: Off-Stage Trombone Parts? on: May 26, 2017, 05:24AM
Hi. Many years ago The Sydney Symphony Orchestra was playing an item which had an off stage horn part. When the poor horn player started to play his part an attendant rushed up and said to him, you can't practice our here, can't you hear that there's a concert in there and proceeded to evict him. The management had failed to inform the staff about the off stage horn. Max.
Great story! I have heard variations of this, also for years. I think the first time I heard it, it was the trumpet player attempting to play the fanfares in Beethoven's Leonore Overture. It's one of those "If it ain't true it should be" kind of things.  :D
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: For techs : 2B bell on 607 II on: May 23, 2017, 10:22AM
I had a situation very like this. It was an older Tempo that I bought from eBay (the slide was... disappointing) and a 3B with a trashed bell. I had in mind to simply fit the 3B slide to the Tempo bell section, But when I picked up the new Frankenhorn the tech said he had some issues getting the two to work together & eventually did about what you describe, removing the bell flare from the Tempo & soldering it in place on the 3B bell stays. I ended up with a horn with about the same basic specs as a Bach 16M, with the 3B's .509 slide section & more open neck pipe topped off by the nickel screamer of a bell from the Tempo. It's a quite interesting result, although a bit different from what I first had in mind.
15  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Mac OS X Sierra Questions on: May 19, 2017, 05:47AM
The test installation on a partitioned disk is a good way to go. I didn't do that, and have found that some of my plug-ins aren't happy. Mostly VST plugins not working correctly. If I have the Mac native version of the plug-in, those have been working well so far.
16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Similar to Hammond? on: May 18, 2017, 01:00PM
I might look at Stork as well.  They tend to have a slightly flatter and thinner rim then Bach and similar pieces and have different throat options...
I've had good results from Stork as well, with their standard and S backbores. Planning on sending a Stork T1 to Doug Elliott so he can thread it for one of his rims. 
17  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Suggestions on trombone stands? on: Apr 21, 2017, 11:54AM

This is what we use in the pit. Heavy beasts but solid. At home I use 3 K&Ms and am quite happy (alto, spare tenor and bass).
Kolberg are a percussion company and make the best percussion stands around so you can trust their work. The 330 price point may turn you off though.

It's the spitoon added to the leg that runs the cost up... Also those don't appear to be very roadworthy, (as in foldable legs) but are doubtless just the thing for an orchestra pit or rehearsal room.

On a related note, a number of commenters have mentioned watching out for your slide crook being dented by the leg of a stand. On my old Hamilton, I used about 2 inches of Velcro with the sticky back, (just the soft part, not the "hooks") and applied them to the tops of the legs in the area where the slide might contact it. It's just enough cushioning to protect the crook from a metal-to-metal ding, and has probably saved my crook from damage on more than one occasion. Some thin Neoprene or a similar soft material with an adhesive backing would probably work fine, as well.  Clever Good!
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Bach 36G vs Yamaha YSL-630? on: Apr 20, 2017, 07:05AM
It's not a wart on the tail. 

In fact, their business charter holds that in the event of financial disaster, the remainder of the company is to close prior to the music department in order to keep it afloat.   Clever

They are well-diversified, but the size of any company in any case has less to do with its quality than a myriad of other factors.  Southwest is a great (large) company.  Lasership is god-awful, and on the smaller side. 
Yamaha as a company's first product was an electronic "Chord Organ," there are tales of the founder carrying one on his back up mountain roads to make deliveries. Source: used to work retail, it's in the company promo materials.

Coincidentally, I also play a 630, and absolutely love it.  :D :D :D
19  Creation and Performance / Music, Concerts and Recordings / Re: Stan Kenton Legacy Orchestra Tour Dates on: Mar 27, 2017, 06:49AM
Wow, you're playing in Melbourne, my old stomping grounds! Heard the Kenton Orchestra twice back in the 70's, had to drive to Orlando and Disney World at the time. Both shows would show up in my Lifelong Highlights reel. (along with seeing King Crimson live... That'd be a spectacular double-bill!  :-0)

Any upcoming dates in Georgia/Atlanta?
20  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: Black Lacquer Kings? on: Mar 22, 2017, 09:22AM
Sure makes the bell engraving look good!
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