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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 60H on: Sep 16, 2017, 12:38AM
I have some of this old conn bass trombones but doesnt have that lot of experience with them. Anyway I tried a 70h slide on the 60h and it didnt feel right. Lets see what Chris tell.

2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Who in their right mind plays a Bach 1 1/2G ?? on: Sep 15, 2017, 02:24PM
Guess what guys.....today I got hands on a pretty Mt Vernon 1.5g. It was pure luck. A friend of mine that play trumpet posted some picture on facebook with a collection of bass trombone mouthpieces he got from a retired bass trombone player. I didn't look so much at it but suddenly I saw there was a Bach mouthpiece. Had a closer look and YES! To my big surprise it was an Mt Vernon!!!! Well, rest is history, I got it today for a rather cheap price. But not super cheap, my friend knew what it was worth, they are popular among trumpet players also.

Anyway, dont have much chance to try it tonight. I'm sitting in a hotel room and have to play a concert tomorrow. Tried it 5 minutes before a rehearsel tonight. A little different from the one I already have. In fact deeper and a little more V shaped. A little different on the lips. Didn't dear to use it in the ensemble because its a rather important concert tomorrow. Will try it more after the concert.

Look how nice it looks!!  LUCKY LUCKY like some other in the forum always write Good! Good! Good!


3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 60H on: Sep 14, 2017, 11:33AM
My mouthpiece go long way into my leadpipe, but when I see down into it with a light it looks ok. And it sounds ok too. It might not be broken Aidan? Mine is not, Im very sure.

4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 60H on: Sep 13, 2017, 10:34PM
Congratulations! Is the mouthpiece going fare into the horn? So it does on mine too. More than other horns I have. I use mine as my main horn so I'm afraid to do something with it. Let us hear how it goes if you switch leadpipe? I don't know any about it.

5  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Amateurs vs. Professionals on: Sep 12, 2017, 12:38AM
What I have seen is that nearly all play because they love music. At least that is the start point for most people. For amateurs I believe the social factor also is high. For professional musicians there can be one disturbing factor; money....how to make a secure life with family, house, car etc.

The pressure for result is in fact high also among many amateur bands, orchestras around. I just see some of the brass bands here in Norway.

There is all types of persons in everything but I see there is often lot of humble and clever people that survive in the professional life.
I also see there sometimes is a lack of joy in the professional world. Especially among some string players. Trombone players are often more enthusiastic of course!

6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Looking for a mouthpiece that's bigger than a Bach 1 1/4G but smaller than a 1G on: Sep 08, 2017, 02:44PM

Maybe for some. I wouldn't count on that for everyone though.

I agree! But we have to try and work with it for some time to know?

I wonder what young bass trombone players like bigbassbone1 and others think;

Is it possible to make a 1 1/2g sound good and work in modern solo, jazz and classical orchestras?

7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Looking for a mouthpiece that's bigger than a Bach 1 1/4G but smaller than a 1G on: Sep 08, 2017, 01:30PM
The answer is 1 1/2g. Its smaller than 1g but sounds bigger than a 1 1/4g....  ;-)

8  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Have you ever felt that your lips aren't "flexible" enough? on: Sep 03, 2017, 12:32AM
This might be different from person to person. I dont know what is correct but I have a feel that my upper lip is vibrating more than the lower lip. And the vibration is bigger thr lower I get. For different types embouchure it's maybe opposite. But as fare I know one lip should be more dominant inside the mouthpiece.

Could you explain more what you do? It's often not easy to know what is exactly going on inside the mouth. I don't know much about this so hope some more experienced answer this. How does it sound?

9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Neotech trombone grip on: Sep 01, 2017, 11:38AM
I recently got a Neotech grip, and I've got a question for those of you who play double trigger bass bones with it. My hands aren't massively large, and with the Neotech mounted, it pushes my hand far enough away from the horn that I can't reach the second lever. Is there a way to bring the grip closer to the horn?

You can unscrew the lock and pivot the angle of it. I have money adjusted one slot lower than normal on my bass. You can also loosen it a little to give you more room by unfastening one or both of the Velcro patches and positioning it more loosely.

I had to do this on my Holton. There is a video of how to adjust it:


10  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: Ear Training - how do you listen? on: Aug 31, 2017, 11:12PM
For one that is new to ear training I would start sorting out the different categories in interval. Dont know the English names for it, but you have pure intervals like octave, fourth and fifth. Then you have dissonance like small and big septim and seconds. Also dimished fifth. Then you have all the thirds and sixths. Minor and major.

In the beginning its wise to listen them in a melodic way. Or as  burgerbob try to find the low note.

Then its to find out the function of intervals. That's easier when listening chords. Like small septim leads down and major thirds leads down. Minor third leads down. All chords, intervals have a kind of function. Its easier to listen when we have read and understood all this functions.

Well I'm not expert on all this, but feel the functionality of intervals and chords make it easier to recognize and listen.

11  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: How loud should I practice? on: Aug 31, 2017, 01:28PM
The difference between the "o" and "a" in the Norwegian "god dag" is that in "o" the lips is formed to an O, in the "a" the lips are much more open. But the throat is exactly alike. Whe you play the horn the lips are not as open as the "a" or formed like an O.

That does not matter, what matter is that the back of the tongue in the America "o" reduce the air flow but not in the Noewegian.

In this case you have no use for the interantional Alphabet, if you are interseted you should try to find a radio station with Norwegian language, or find some one person who comes from Norway.


Hei Henrik!

Im from Norway too  Hi

Svenne have experience in this and have good points about differences in languages.

Im not the right person to give any advice on this but Im always interested in how to practice. I try to practice both soft and loud with same attitude. The clue is to get control over this thing we play. Control in dynamic and range. Sometimes we have to try different methods to find what works. Its not always the same for all players. We also have to tests our limits both in dynamic and range, but strive for control and good sound. Loud isnt that much about strength but more about finesse as I see it.

Never give up! When we find a way where we feel its effortless and we feel we can make music, then we are on right track! If not be careful and try other methods until you are on a right track. Good you found a teacher. It can speed up things if he see what you need.

Lykke til!  Hi


12  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Switching from small bore to large bore on: Aug 29, 2017, 10:43PM
With a little patience and time it will go ok. You don't have to change that much, you get used to it with a little time. I changed from small bore to bass trombone when I was 17. It went ok, didn't change much. It's still a trombone.

13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: How do you guys tell when it's time to change mouthpiece sizes? on: Aug 29, 2017, 04:37AM
Mouthpieces can give frustration when we are not sure what we should use. Most of us have been there. I have definetly been there. Its of course important to find one we like and suit our anatomy. Once we find that one its best to stay and develop.

I would suggest to read a little bit in the tread where Sam tell how to choose. Its one of the sticky treads up in front here.

When to change is difficult to say. If it works well and we develop keep it. If you get a new horn its maybe time to look for one that fits the horn. Difficult to say, the answer is in the end inside our self.


14  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / Re: Sonny Costanzo on: Aug 26, 2017, 02:49PM
I played in Sonny's big band for about 6 years. Unfortunately he passed away early from cancer around 1993.

Wish I could just play some few minutes in that band.....

15  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Double buzz - please help on: Aug 26, 2017, 07:39AM
Im a little of topic, but I dont understand how to make a double buzz? I have tried to make it but it seem impossible?

16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Neotech trombone grip on: Aug 25, 2017, 05:35AM
I got the Neotech trombone grip today. I really like it, so much better to hold my bass trombones. It can be adjusted to find the best balance for the hand and trombone. Its making it more relaxed to play. Really a good investment and it was simple and cheep!

17  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: One fits all or one for each' which one is better? on: Aug 23, 2017, 04:47AM
One mouthpiece is best in that age. In fact it is best for all ages.

18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Stearn's law of leadpipes on: Aug 21, 2017, 02:54AM
Wonder if there is any useful for me to change my old Conn's to take different lead pipes?
Or maybe the Holton 180?

19  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: What bass trombone for a high school student? on: Aug 20, 2017, 12:18AM
It's not easy to give advice since we don't know much about him. And we dont know how motivated, his goals, his level. If I was in your shoes I would go to a local pro trombonist. Have a lesson and then ask for advice.

20  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Bad days - do I need rest, or more practice? on: Aug 19, 2017, 11:14AM

I've been playing the trombone for about half a year now, after a 20+ years break. Generally, I think I'm improving steadily, with a decent tone in my rather narrow range. But some days, like the last couple of days, it seems like the trombone hates me. The sound is terrible, and I have no endurance at all - my lips feel numb almost immediately. If I play for a few minutes, then rest for maybe 30-60 minutes, play, rest etc, then maybe I can hear a slight improvement by the end of the day, with better but still not very good tone.

Is this a common problem, for newbies at least? Have I been practicing too much, and just need some rest? (I was practicing long notes near the top of my register the last few days before this happened.)

If anyone else experience bad days like this, do you just keep playing until it improves, or do you take a day off, in order to give your lips etc time to recover?

Must be something that doesn't work like it should. Best thing to do is to go to real good teachers like Doug, Sam or others that might  see/listen what you really need. Seems to me you have gone into a blind road?


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