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1  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America! on: Jul 25, 2014, 05:46AM

There is no more insidious or reprehensible example of the cancer that exists in the US Corporate world, and its ties to our political system, than the “for-profit” prison industry. There are functions a civilized society must perform in which the concept of “for-profit” is inappropriate, and prisons must be near the top of that list.

The purpose of a prison system is remove transgressors from the population at large so they can no longer prey on the innocent, to extract a penalty (loss of freedom) in retribution, to deter the commission of future crimes, and to rehabilitate those incarcerated into law abiding citizens. Those goals are completely incompatible with a corporate agenda that knows no goal but the bottom line.

One of the most egregiously bad “for- profit” prison groups is Florida’s own GEO group, headed by CEO George Zoley, which runs private facilities in 17 states in addition to the five it has contracts for here in Fla. This company has a long legacy of misconduct and abusive practices in its facilities, none more so than those pointed out in a Justice Dept. investigation into the Walnut Grove Youth Detention Facility in Mississippi.

DOJ investigators found that GEO allowed:
   Deliberate indifference to staff sexual misconduct and inappropriate behavior with youth;
•   Use of excessive force by WGYCF staff on youth;
•   Inadequate protection of youth from youth-on-youth violence;
•   Deliberate indifference to youth at risk of self-injurious and suicidal behaviors; and
•   Deliberate indifference to the medical needs of youth.

“Our findings show that due to the unconstitutional operation of WGYCF, youth were sexually preyed upon by staff and all too frequently suffered grievous harm, including death,” said Thomas E. Perez, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division.

Commenting on the investigation, Federal Judge Carlton Reeves noted GEO “has allowed a cesspool of unconstitutional and inhumane acts and conditions to germinate, the sum of which places the offenders at substantial ongoing risk”.

As a result of the investigation, the State of Mississippi cancelled its contract with GEO and closed the facility. Nothing like that is going on here in Fla.

Last week. Zoley held a private fundraiser for our Gov. Fraud, Rick Scott. Despite all the red flags associated with the GEO model, Gov. Fraud has given them a State award for “bold and innovative, cost saving practices”. Why do we give control of our State to snakes like these?

Wake up, Florida!
2  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Malaysian airliner shot down on: Jul 22, 2014, 01:41PM
GHWB? Maybe. He did use his CIA background to full advantage. Clinton? That's a harder sell. He missed a lot. Reagan? No way, no how. Other than being lucky enough to be in office when the USSR bankrupted itself in Afghanistan (a lesson I really wish we'd learned) Reagan was, for the most part, a glad handing buffoon. He should have been impeached over the Iran-Contra debacle. I did say, since Nixon, so I'll grant you a possible caveat for GHWB, and stand by my statement otherwise, despite my love and respect for Ike.  Johnson was, by a wide margin, the most productive and substantial Presidency of my lifetime on the domestic front, but he had a Congress that supported what he was trying to do. What Obama has accomplished, domestically, in the face of a Congress that would rather see America fail than for him to achieve a single success, makes him the best President in my lifetime when considering both domestic and foreign policy achievements.
3  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Malaysian airliner shot down on: Jul 22, 2014, 10:25AM
When a "red line" is crossed, it is a signal that action needs to be taken. That is exactly what this President did. He played the Congress and Putin like a well tuned Stradivarius. He never had any desire to commit American forces into the disaster that Syria would have been, he just wanted to make sure those chemical weapons did not become a threat to the wider world. He accomplished that admirably without creating a single wounded veteran for the GOP  to deny funding to take care of. Anyone who claims he "didn't do anything" isn't really paying very close attention. He accomplished his goal in the most efficient, least costly manner imaginable.
4  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Malaysian airliner shot down on: Jul 22, 2014, 05:50AM

If you honestly believe it, then I really do not know what to say except you might want to get out and read a little.  ....... lackadaisical and "lead from behind" approach is dangerous to us and our allies.

If you are being satirical,  you really had me going there.  There is no way you can expect to be taken seriously making statements like that.

I suspect I read every bit as much, or more, as anyone on this forum. I also suspect I read from a far broader spectrum of sources than is evidenced by the comments of many who participate. I stand behind my comment. This is never going to be a peaceful world when the leaders of the strongest country in it use military force as thier go to option in every diplomatic situation. This President has managed a drastically changing world without getting the US involved in any shooting wars. He has done so by forcing the stake holders in the regions of those changes to face the reality of their stakes, and to get involved in resolving the issues. I LOVE it. It is an amazingly refreshing change to have a President that thinks and works with his brain rather than his reproductive appendage.
5  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Malaysian airliner shot down on: Jul 21, 2014, 06:08PM
Wow. I left out feckless.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention Iran is at the negotiating table ver their nuke, and for the first time in over a decade there is evidence they have stopped motion in the direction of a wen, and, in fact, have neutralized/ diluted ALL of there highly enriched uranium.
6  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Malaysian airliner shot down on: Jul 21, 2014, 01:44PM
Russ & badger, personal attacks on forum members will not be tolerated. 

I just went to my corner and counted to ten. Obama is the best foreign policy President since, at least, Nixon. He played Putin like a Stradivarius in Syria, and guess what, the chemical weapons are gone. After he took the world by surprise in Crimea, he had 50K troops massed on the border ready to go in. Obama slapped some serious in your face personal sanctions on his cadre, and the invasion didn't happen. I bet there are  a bunch of Georgians who wish he'd been around sooner. When Putin tried the sleight of hand stupidity that resulted in this shoot down, Obama hit him with even tougher, more targeted sanctions. Sadly, this happened before their affects could be felt. It would be very helpful if the Europeans got on  board, and maybe this will move their needle. I love the way this guy thinks and makes the rest of the world stand up and back their stakes in these episodes.
7  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Malaysian airliner shot down on: Jul 20, 2014, 01:19PM
This country doesn’t have a president. Just a petulant little boy shooting hoops, golfing, fundraising and hobnobbing.

All he knows how to run is his foolish mouth.


Mr.Obama is too busy golfing and fundraising to bother with such trivial matters; regardless; "What difference, at this point,does it make." It is not 3:00 AM.!!!!!!


WHat a...... Oh, wait, Permian Basin. That explains it. Nevermind.
8  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America! on: Jul 18, 2014, 05:52AM
The men who wrote our founding documents were pretty smart fellows. They went to great lengths to ensure us a government that would protect the small from the big, the weak from the strong, and the powerless from the powerful. For over 200 years now that is how it has worked, with sometimes varying degrees of success.
We have recently seen a SCOTUS, half filled with activist Conservative justices, turn that notion on its head. We are seeing decision after decision in favor of the strong over the weak, the powerful over the powerless. That will only end as those justices reach the end of their careers and are replaced, hopefully, by jurists who value the good of the many over the good of the few.
Fortunately, the lower courts still have judges who do uphold the intents of the Constitution, and work to provide the checks and balances the court system is meant to provide to the legislative and executive branches of our governments. We have seen it repeatedly as they have stayed legislation attempting to restrict the health care rights of women and suppress the votes of minorities and the young.
Florida, just this past week, was the scene of one such act of judicial heroism. In a case largely ignored by the mainstream, corporate media, Judge Terry Lewis threw out the GOP’s redrawing of Florida’s Congressional Districts, noting that a “secret, organized campaign” by the GOP “made a mockery of the Legislature’s transparent and open process of redistricting”.
Floridians, by a huge majority, amended our Constitution to avoid just such shenanigans. It shows the disdain the GOP has for the will of the People that this lawsuit even needed to be brought. I cannot understand, other than the enormous advantage they have in money, why we keep putting control of our State into the hands of folks who care so little for the desires and welfare of the bulk of the People.
Lewis quotes George Washington, warning about the dangers of political parties in which “cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government”. One has to hope this case will set a precedent that begins the end of the practice of Gerrymandering as a political tool. To have a healthy functioning democracy, elections have to as fair and open as is possible.
9  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Boehner wants to sue Obama on: Jul 16, 2014, 10:44AM
I stand corrected. There were 2.
10  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Boehner wants to sue Obama on: Jul 16, 2014, 05:50AM
And, one side gets that. Yes, there were "fringee's" on the left who pushed for impeachment of Bush, but they were not elected members of Congress. From virtually the day he was sworn in you have seen/ heard elected GOP representatives calling for Obama to be impeached. The left didn't even scream for Reagan to be impeached for Iran-Contra, maybe the most egregious "high-crimes and misdemeanors" ever perpetrated from the office of the Presidency. It was a far more insidious transgression than Nixon's. It is only one side that engages this pattern, and it is important for Americans to recognize that.
11  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Boehner wants to sue Obama on: Jul 15, 2014, 01:35PM
I mentioned the Rush Limbaugh thing because I remembered how shocking it seemed in 2009 that anyone would publicly say he hoped a new president would fail. I find it sad that such a thing is no longer remarkable. The political purposes behind the relentless slander of our president, and the concomitant refusal to do the nation's business, are obvious, but it's still disconcerting that we're willing to accept it as the norm.

Starting with the Clinton presidency, democracy has simply broken down. We used to vote for a new president and fall behind whoever won as "our president" even if we were in the loyal opposition. Now it's not enough to disagree with a president--we have to question his loyalty and intentions. And we no longer honor the electoral process--if our guy loses, we start looking for a reason to impeach the other guy.

Boehner's lawsuit is foolish and futile, but he's trying to throw a bone to the loonies because he knows impeachment is bad for his party politically. The relentless undermining of this president, and the next one, and the next one, harms us all.

Your points are only true about 1 side. Dems, and the rest of the country, lined up behind Bush even though we didn't feel he was legitimately elected. He only started seeing the kind of opposition he did, which still pales in comparison (there were no calls for his impeachment from inside the Dem caucus. At least, as far as I can remember, the Dems were more focused on trying to get things done for the American people) to what Clinton and Obama have suffered, after he launched his ill-advised, immoral, war of aggression in Iraq. One side is all to eager for people to say "a pox on both their houses", because that let's them pretend their is equal blame for where we are politically. It isn't so.
12  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Boehner wants to sue Obama on: Jul 14, 2014, 08:17AM
Virtually every Republican in the House voted for a bil which would have done exactly what the President did, but it went nowhere in the Senate.
13  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America! on: Jul 10, 2014, 05:49AM
Back home for this one. sure was a great trip!!


This week I am going to pose a group of questions I got from a Republican friend, Dale Pollard, from Pensacola. He is tired of the juvenile actions of his party, and would like every American to see and think about these questions, and the answers to them before they go to vote in November. They are good questions, and I hope you will think about them as well

1. Why are we targeting military pensions for budget money and not taking a look at terminating oil subsidizes at a time of historic profits?

2. Why are we cutting food stamps and obstructing unemployment benefits while there are multiple tax loopholes that could be closed?

3. Why does the Speaker of the House continue to refuse to bring the President's Infrastructure Bill to the floor yet keeps asking the President - where are the jobs?

4. Why does Congress keep reporting that the economy is not progressing when we just experienced our 52nd consecutive month of private sector job growth and the stock market closed at an historical high number?

5. Why does Congress feel that every budget should be funded by the poor, students, middle-class, and seniors while giving tax breaks to those who need it the least?

6. Why are republican governors and legislatures blocking Medicaid expansion when it doesn't cost the State one dime for the first three years and then only 10% per year thereafter? How many millions of people are having to do without medical coverage in those states?

7. Why are republican states passing voting discriminative laws when its been proven that voter fraud is very rare and insignificant in its effect on the elections? Could it be to rig election results?

8. Why is it so important that our election system be bought and sold by rich people?

9. If you vote for the same republican that is currently in office in November, do you think obstruction will continue? What position does that put those families that are suffering right now?

10. How can the religious right profess to be Christians and stand out in the road to block the safe transfer of young children.

The answers to these questions will give you a good idea of why we find ourselves where we are in this country. Pass them on to as many Americans as you can before the upcoming election.

Wake Up, America!
14  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Jobs returning? on: Jul 07, 2014, 04:48AM

Automatihron was the reason for wage gains from World War II through the advent of offshoring in the 1990s. 

Actually, automation was the reason for productivity gain. Unions were the reason for wage gains, which mirrored productivity gains until the GOP started their all too successful union killing campaign in the late 60's. Since then all the productivity gains have gone into the pockets of those at the top. If wages had kept up with productivity, the minimum wage would be around $22.
15  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Supreme Court Decisions on: Jul 01, 2014, 04:04PM
I still say they are massive hypocrites. If they had a true "religious objection" to spending money that supports abortion, they would not havea single item stamped "Made in China" on their shelves. They have no problem paying 85 cents out of every dollar they spend to put merchandise on their shelves to a regime that makes mandatory abortion a matter of public policy so long as it puts dollars in their pockets, but cry "religious discrimination" when they are required to include tenths of a penny on the dollar to provide minimum standards in health insurance they voluntarily provide to employees. That is world Class hypocrisy, I don't care what angle you look at it from.
16  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Supreme Court Decisions on: Jul 01, 2014, 03:47AM
This case was always about politics, not religion. If the owners of Hobby Lobby had such a strong religious belief about spending their money to support abortion they wouldn't have a single item made in China on their shelves. The hypocrisy is mind boggling to a thinking person who is not ideologically blinded.
17  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay on: Jun 29, 2014, 11:05PM
A little credit where credit is due, please. We have given the world the sports of hot dog eating, belly flop and wet T-shirt contests, not to mention Monster Truck Rallies, the WWF, and NASCAR. Show some respect for the good OL' USA!
18  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Boehner wants to sue Obama on: Jun 27, 2014, 07:28AM
The Clinton case was the end result of a 6 year $50M witch hunt that morphed from an investigation of a failed penny-ante land deal into the whole Lewinsky stupidity. It WAS the "great, right-wing conspiracy" Hillary warned us about at the time, and it is still going strong with all the phony, made up out of whole cloth, scandals the GOP keeps throwing against the wall, praying that something will stick. If any President in the history of this country should have been impeached, it was Reagan over the Iran-Contra affair. That was a blatant, in your face violation of a law specifically written to avoid exactly what he did. This latest Boehner idiocy is just that. Elementary level pandering to the juveniles in his caucus and their base.
19  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay on: Jun 27, 2014, 07:20AM
Moral decay: Aaron Hernandez v. Luis Suarez?

Wouldn't that be Molar decay?
20  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay on: Jun 26, 2014, 12:24PM
She and Bill Maher are friends, so that may tell you a little about her "extremism". As for soccer, I saw a great post on FB the other day. "if I wanted to watch someone struggle to score for 90 minutes, I'd grab a couple of my friends and take them to Happy Hour". Sad to watch USA loss to Germany. Hope they win tie breakers and advance anyway.
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