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1  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America: Take 3 on: Today at 10:16 AM
Their contention is that they are not leaving, just putting pressure on Congress to push for new negotiations around the edges. ICBM's and terrorism things. At least, that's what it sounds like to me. It also seems completely disingenuous.
2  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America: Take 3 on: Today at 08:03 AM
In France this week. .......

Bomb Throwing

It seems as if our President has no guiding agenda of his own except to destroy everything the black guy who came before him did. This week saw him throwing more grenades into Obama era programs with apparent disregard for the devastating effects they will have on Americans and the standing of our country in the world.

On the Sunday shows, representatives of the administration attempted to rationalize the actions by saying the President is "unconventional" (no kidding), and that he is just trying to force actions by Congress and our allies and opponents around the world. That may actually be true, but the odds are quite high that any actions that result will not be of a positive nature for the good of this country.

By ending subsidies for ACA premiums and de-certifying the Iran nuclear agreement this President is apparently trying to pressure Congress into actually doing their job. Not an unworthy goal, but this is a Congress whose only two actions since the inauguration were a bill which made it easier for the mentally ill to purchase firearms and another which imposed sanctions on Russia for its interference in our elections, taking away the President's capacity to take any action in that area.

With an upcoming battle royale over tax reform and the budget process, putting more pressure on this do-nothing Congress seems somewhat counter-productive at best. And, by blowing up the insurance exchanges and stripping health coverage from millions of Americans he is taking full and complete ownership of the healthcare issue for himself and his party going forward. Democrats must be pinching themselves over what this means for heir prospects in 2018 and 2020.

We know from his history in business this President has never had qualms about reneging on a deal he has entered into, or of leaving others holding a bag full of his mistakes. He claims Iran has not lived up to the "spirit" of the nuclear deal, but there is nothing anywhere in the agreement defining what the "spirit" of the deal is. There is unanimous accord, even among the administration's own cabinet, that Iran is in 100% compliance with the commitments it made in the agreement. How is "spirit" enforced?

This de-certification will make the world wonder if the USA, whose word was once her bond, is now no more trustworthy than it's President. Why would No Korea, or anyone, enter into an agreement with this administration?




3  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our (semi-)balanced former POTUS on: Oct 10, 2017, 02:04PM
You mean the DOTUS?

LOVE IT! Look for it in my column.
4  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America: Take 3 on: Oct 10, 2017, 01:37PM
Shouldn't write during the second bottle........
5  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our (semi-)balanced former POTUS on: Oct 09, 2017, 10:37AM
What do you Americans think were President Obama's successes and failures? And how do you assess his time in office overall?

Good Lord! Where to even start? He took over an economy that was in a nose dive like the bomber in one of the old Bugs Bunny cartoons. The stock market was in free fall, we were hemorhaging 800,000 jobs a month. The auto industry was imploding, Bin Laden was still out there directing Al Qaddafi, the American health insurance markets were a disaster, and we were mired in two seemingly endless wars. He forced through as large a stimulus package as was possible over the obstruction of a disloyal minotirymparty that wanted nothing more than to see him fail, but was afraid the American economy was not going to survive. The stimulus was not nearly as large as it needed to be affect a recovery, but it was large enough to leevel off the nose dive and get it moving in a positive direction again. The auto bailout was actually originated by W during his lame duck period, but Obama oversaw it's implementation and management that brought the American auto industry back to the top. He did the best he could to renegotiate the withdrawal from Iraq, but W had screwed that's pooch so royally that all they wanted was us gone, with the door not hitting us in th butt on our way out. He got the Lily Ledbetter law passed. He got the ACA passed. His economic policies, despite unending, unparalleled obstruction, DID turn the economy around and issue in the  longest period of positive job growth in history and a tripling of the stock market. He stopped the Iran nuclear program and got the chemical weapons out of Syria. He instigated the Paris Accord on climate change, the first to ever gain majority buy in around the world. Etc., etc., etc.

Most of the negatives have already been pointed out. I would add not prosecuting anyone for war crimes over torture as a major failure. Not explains the benefits of the ACA better and letting thenRepublicans control the dialogue was a huge failure.

He restored America's prestige, so damaged by the cowboy aggressiveness of the W regime, in the eyes of the world. Sadly, that is all being undone by the DOTARD now holding the office..
6  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Oct 09, 2017, 12:27AM


They did. It was called the Electoral College. It is as broken as the rest of our society.
7  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Oct 01, 2017, 05:54AM
THis response makes Katrina look like a well-oiled machine. ANd it is truly disastrous when compared to the reponse to the earthquake in Haiti, where they didn't have a week's notice it was about to happen.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-responded-to-haiti-quake-more-forcefully-than-to-puerto-rico-disaster/2017/09/28/74fe9c02-a465-11e7-8cfe-d5b912fabc99_story.html?utm_term=.aea789f7dd49
8  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Disgraceful NFL on: Sep 29, 2017, 04:49PM
Here's another relevant perspective.....

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/1718294461535370/
9  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Sep 29, 2017, 04:45PM
I don't understand the HHS Sec Price resignation today.

Yeah, the private jet stuff was maybe inappropriate, but firing-worthy? Compared to the inappropriate travel costs we've racked up for Trump himself?

Maybe Price just wanted to get out?

YEah, the ethical issues couldn't have been firable in this administration. He was also held responsible for not getting Health Care passed. That was a non-survivable 1-2 punch.
10  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Disgraceful NFL on: Sep 29, 2017, 12:03PM
Here's a post worthy of a read. Sadly, from what I can tell from where I got it, the folks who would most benefit from it won't bother to read it.

How it all started, and how we got here.

(Unfortunately, the people that could learn something by reading this likely won't bother).

Did you know this?
Aug 14, 2016- Colin Kaepernick sits for the national anthem.....and no one noticed.

Aug 20th, 2016- Colin again sits, and again, no one noticed.

Aug 26th, 2016- Colin sits and this time he is met with a level of vitriol unseen against an athlete. Even the future President of the United States took shots at him while on the campaign trail. Colin went on to explain his protest had NOTHING to with the military, but he felt it hard to stand for a flag that didn't treat people of color fairly.

Then on on Aug 30th, 2016 Nate Boyer, a former Army Green Beret turned NFL long snapper, penned an open letter to Colin in the Army Times. In it he expressed how Colin's sitting affected him.

Then a strange thing happened. Colin was able to do what most Americans to date have not...
He listened.

In his letter, Mr. Boyer writes:
"I’m not judging you for standing up for what you believe in. It’s your inalienable right. What you are doing takes a lot of courage, and I’d be lying if I said I knew what it was like to walk around in your shoes. I’ve never had to deal with prejudice because of the color of my skin, and for me to say I can relate to what you’ve gone through is as ignorant as someone who’s never been in a combat zone telling me they understand what it’s like to go to war.
Even though my initial reaction to your protest was one of anger, I’m trying to listen to what you’re saying and why you’re doing it."

Mr. Boyer goes on to write "There are already plenty people fighting fire with fire, and it’s just not helping anyone or anything. So I’m just going to keep listening, with an open mind. I look forward to the day you're inspired to once again stand during our national anthem. I'll be standing right there next to you."

Empathy and understanding was shown by Mr. Boyer.........and Mr. Kaepernick reciprocated.

Colin invited Nate to San Diego where the two had a 90 minute discussion and Nate proposed Colin kneel instead of sit.

But why kneel? In a military funeral, after the flag is taken off the casket of the fallen military member, it is smartly folded 13 times and then presented to the parents, spouse or child of the fallen member by a fellow service member while KNEELING. The two decided that kneeling for the flag would symbolize his reverence for those that paid the ultimate sacrifice while still allowing Colin to peacefully protest the injustices he saw.

Empathy, not zealotry under the guise of patriotism, is the only way meaningful discussion can be had. Mr. Kaepernick listened to all of you that say he disrespects the military and extended an olive branch to find a peace.

When will America listen to him?

We can all learn from this backstory. The truth often lies in the middle. Seek to learn the opposing side's point.
11  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: Bunker 2017 on: Sep 29, 2017, 09:10AM
Entire office forgot my birthday yesterday   :cry: :cry: :cry:  Including the people there that I consider good friends.  Eeek! Eeek! Eeek!

Well, Happy Belated Birthday, my OLD friend. I hop this is your best year yet!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atZ0TF_ISMg
12  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: A Generation of Sociopaths: How the Baby Boomers Betrayed America on: Sep 29, 2017, 02:46AM
Nicely put. Our parents and grandparents have been called "The Greatest Generation". One has to wonder what appellation will be appled to us. "The Most Selfish/ Self Centered Generation"? "The Me, Me, Me Generation"? It seems that all the good that came from our generation came from those who ignored public service, politically anyway, and created the technology you speak of outside of the public domain. We've done our best to limit/ destroy the public domain.
13  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Disgraceful NFL on: Sep 27, 2017, 11:39AM
I do know that, but so are millions of Americans who have been targeted for years by guys like Joe Arpaio. I'm wondering what the folks who support Arpaio are gonna think about a million or so more of them show up all of a sudden.
14  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Disgraceful NFL on: Sep 27, 2017, 10:46AM
The irony is strong in this one.

Speaking of politics... Isn't a US territory basically destroyed and in strong need of help? Isn't that a bit more important thing for the president to be focused on than a political primary, or a guy kneeling in NFL games last year?

At what point do politics matter more than our own people?


I'm wondering what the response from the "Bulid a Fence" crowd is going to be when a million or more Spanish speakers immigrate here all at once. Do you think they'll be looking for a travel ban on Puerto Ricans?
15  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Disgraceful NFL on: Sep 27, 2017, 09:54AM
I've seen two especially pertinent memes, among thousands, on this subject today.

"If the knee in Freddy Gray's back bothered you as much as Kaepernick's knee on the field, there wouldn't be need for this discussion"

And, Kaepernick wearing a t-shirt that says;

"We March, Ya'll mad
We Sit, Ya'll mad
We stand, Ya'll mad
We die, Ya'll silent!"

It ain't about the freakin' flag.
16  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Disgraceful NFL on: Sep 27, 2017, 07:31AM
What would be effective you ask?

How about those that are kneeling, get off their A$$es and go on strike.

Of course, that would cost them money, put some of their skin in the game.

You see, they feel wronged, but aren't willing to put their own skin in the game.

IOW, they are taking the cowards way out.

Kaepernick put a million dollars of his money where his mouth is. It would be nice if, just every once in a while, you knew what the heck you were talking about.
17  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Disgraceful NFL on: Sep 26, 2017, 02:36PM
I could see that.... IF there was ever a flip side of the argument to shut the discussions down from the seemingly racist white side.

That's a disrespectful and horrible way to protest! Well, how should they protest? Silence.

This is the inappropriate time to protest! Well, when is the appropriate time? Silence.

Trump's not a white supremacist! No, he just supports them and their causes while attacking black guys and their causes... How is that not being a white supremacist? Silence.

And so it goes. For those who have complained about the protest in this thread, none have offered an alternative other than "DON'T!"


I taught too.

And yeah, word are words and they have meaning.... but there's often a greater hesitancy behind the concept than the word. My example: I taught k-12.

Elementary School... if you asked them what a period is, they would say the thing at the end of a sentence.
High school... if you asked them what a period is, the girls might shout out that it was monthly bleeding from their uterus.
But middle school... ask what a period is, and there's likely to be awkward silence.

And doesn't matter what you call it... cycle, period, flow... any direct name will be greeted with discomfort. The only ones they would say aloud were the most vague... "female issues" and the like. And even those often don't come easy.

The difference comes, that elementary kids... it has no real relevance. If they know, it will be loud and unashamed, if not... oh well. High school girls start to really get defined by it. Not only is it a monthly issue to deal with, but also comes with other aspects of puberty and change. And as it starts to play a more defining role, and becomes more familiar, they get more comfortable.

But middle schoolers... they may have heard about it, but it's new... it's uncomfortable... it's unfamiliar... and they really may not know how to deal with it yet. So they hide.


Which is pretty much our race relations in a messed up pair of pants.

Minorities are defined by being a minority. Blacks know they are black. It is a present and defining part of their life and something that in current US society, they grow up being conscious of.

Whites... live in a white world. They don't think of race for themselves. Race is something OTHERS have. A friend might be described as a black friend if they are black, but a white friend is just a friend. Whereas... yeah, for black folk? you hear it in how they great each other. As you note: "what up my n-----?"


Now, whites and black are still very segregated today, and that is on both sides, but with the balance firmly on the white side per power... it does cause some major discrepancies. Which... white people living in a white world often like to talk about as much as a middle schooler getting her first period and going home from school with bloody pants.

No matter what you call that... it's embarrassing. There's a whole mix of emotions and uncertainly. And while blacks have a lot to gain, whites don't. They stand to lose places of privilege, better prosperity, the comfort of being white in a white world where white just means jokes about tanning and sunburns. There is very intentional effort to avoid having these discussions and avoid integrations... even basics like affirmative action? How long was that popular?

Whatever you want to call it, it's still the underlying racism and ultimately the engrained comfort with that racist inequality that is the core of the matter.

BRAVO! As well as I've seen it said.
18  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Disgraceful NFL on: Sep 26, 2017, 01:17PM
Another guy who gets it. And, a Texan to boot...........

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-sports-anchor-dale-hansen-162028451.html
19  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America: Take 3 on: Sep 26, 2017, 05:52AM
WOW, what a week........

Kaepernick

Our President is a disgrace. Puerto Rico is in ruins, the Senate is in shambles trying to take health care away from millions of Americans, and the ongoing middle-school bullying contest with No. Korea is getting ever more ridiculously serious (I do have to say “Dotard” [Doh!-Tard’] is the word of the decade, and a perfect description of the man in the Oval Office). So, where is Drumpf’s focus? Insulting black NFL players for exercising their 1st Amendment right to free speech.

The best response to the protest initiated by Colin Kaepernick I have seen was penned over a year ago by veteran of the Iraq war, Jim Wright. Here are excerpts:


"The very first thing I learned in the military is this: Respect is a two-way street. If you want respect, true respect, sincere respect, then you have to GIVE IT.
"If you want respect, you have to do the things necessary to earn it each and every single day. There are no short cuts and no exceptions.
"Respect cannot be compelled.
"Respect cannot be bought.
"Respect cannot be inherited...Respect has to be earned.
"Respect. Has. To. Be. Earned."……………


"IF Kaepernick doesn't feel his country respects him enough for him to respect it in return, well, then you can't MAKE him respect it……..”

"If America wants the world's respect, it must be worthy of respect.
"America must be worthy of respect. Torture, rendition, indefinite detention, unarmed black men shot down in the street every day, poverty, inequality, voter suppression, racism, bigotry in every form, obstructionism, blind patriotism, NONE of those things are worthy of respect from anybody -- least of all an American………..”


"To you the National Anthem means one thing, to Kaepernick it means something else…………That's liberty……………The right to believe your country can BE better, that it can live up to its sacred ideals, and the right to loudly note that it has NOT. The right to use your voice, your actions, to bring attention to the things you believe in. The right to want more for others, freedom, liberty, justice, equality, and RESPECT.
"A true veteran might not agree with Colin Kaepernick, but a true veteran would fight to the death to protect his right to say what he believes.
"You don't like what Kaepernick has to say? Then prove him wrong, BE the nation he can respect.”

"It's really just that simple."

Well, it should be……
20  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Disgraceful NFL on: Sep 26, 2017, 05:16AM
All of you bloviating about "Respect" need to go back amd read, and actually make an effort to understand, the letter from Jim Wright, the Navy veteran, I posted earlier. Here it is again........

https://www.attn.com/stories/11050/military-veteran-stands-colin-kaepernick?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=direct-share&utm_campaign=shares

"The very first thing I learned in the military is this: Respect is a two-way street. If you want respect, true respect, sincere respect, then you have to GIVE IT.

"If you want respect, you have to do the things necessary to earn it each and every single day. There are no short cuts and no exceptions.
"Respect cannot be compelled.
"Respect cannot be bought.
"Respect cannot be inherited...Respect has to be earned.
"Respect. Has. To. Be. Earned."
"Now, any veteran worth the label should know that. If they don't, then likely they weren't much of a soldier to begin with and you can tell them I said so."

BINGO!

"If America wants the world's respect, it must be worthy of respect.
"America must be worthy of respect. Torture, rendition, indefinite detention, unarmed black men shot down in the street every day, poverty, inequality, voter suppression, racism, bigotry in every form, obstructionism, blind patriotism, NONE of those things are worthy of respect from anybody -- least of all an American."

"To you the National Anthem means one thing, to Kaepernick it means something else. We are all shaped and defined by our experiences and we see the world through our own eyes. That's freedom. That's liberty. The right to believe differently. The right to protest as you will. The right to demand better. The right to believe your country can BE better, that it can live up to its sacred ideals, and the right to loudly note that it has NOT. The right to use your voice, your actions, to bring attention to the things you believe in. The right to want more for others, freedom, liberty, justice, equality, and RESPECT.
"A true veteran might not agree with Colin Kaepernick, but a true veteran would fight to the death to protect his right to say what he believes.
"You don't like what Kaepernick has to say? Then prove him wrong, BE the nation he can respect.
"It's really just that simple."

Yes, it really is that simple. At least, it ought to be. Hard to believe so many simple minded folks have so much trouble getting it.
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