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1  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America: Take 3 on: Sep 23, 2016, 06:57AM
Posting from Bali for the next three weeks.....

Zhirinovsky

Once again I am blessed to find myself writing this column from half a world away. Breakfasting under the watchful eyes of a troop of Macaques, looking out across an ocean that does not touch American shores, it is easy to forget the ugliness and stupidity that is characterizing this election season back home.

Well, until I tell a fellow traveler where I am from. It seems everyone around the world is tuned into our elections, and though diverse, their opinions are much the same. Leave to an Aussie to sum it up most succinctly; "Have you bloody Yanks lost your minds"?There's really no good answer to that question.

I did have an interesting discussion with a young couple from Kazak, a town about 700 miles east of Moscow. I asked their opinion of their President, Vladimir Putin. They said the Russian people feel "safe" with him as their leader. I told them we in the west think he is a thug who stole the election that put him in power. They replied, "Of course he did, that's how things work in Russia". They went on to explain that was ok, because as bad as Putin is, the people who were running against him were even worse.

I asked what they thought of our President. They expressed disappointment he had not achieved the promise they saw in him when he was elected. I explained our Presidency is not like theirs. Our President can't just do what he wants, or fire anyone who doesn't agree with him, but that President Obama has had a very successful Presidency in spite of being obstructed at every turn.

I then turned to our election and asked what they thought of Hillary Clinton. They confessed they knew very little about Hillary and that they see little about her in their media. They realize they hear only what their government wants them to hear, and it is frequently quite different from what the ever increasing number of Russians who now travel abroad report on returning home.

This was not true about Trump. They actually laughed out loud when I asked about him. "He is your Zhirinovsky". I had to google him to remember he is the ultra-nationalist "Clown Prince of Russian politics". Among his more ludicrous suggestions are that Russia build a wall, ban Muslims, and nuke Washington, DC. Yep, sounds like our guy all right.

So, have we lost our bloody minds?

Sent from my iPad
2  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Trump on: Sep 18, 2016, 05:30AM
Not that truth and/ or facts matter to the "true believers", but here is one of thousands of hits on google debunking the absurdity........

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/politics/hillary-clinton-birther-conspiracy/
3  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Hillary on: Sep 17, 2016, 08:16AM
It would only be a problem if he actually got the visa.
4  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Trump on: Sep 17, 2016, 05:39AM
...wut?

Goes back to my statement. The fact the more than half of Trump's supporters continue to display willful ignorance to the lies he tells, soooo not limited to the "birther" issue, in the face of sooooo much factual information makes them deplorable. Well, some of them are really just too stupid to understand their ignorance is willful. They are not deplorable. THey are just stupid. It is the rest who are deplorable.
5  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Hillary on: Sep 17, 2016, 05:32AM
Would you quit muddying the water with facts? You know they just confuse the issue.
6  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Trump on: Sep 16, 2016, 03:28PM
The birther issue is totally irrelevant in this election, unless there is something about Clinton that I'm not aware of.

It's relevant because close to 60% of Trump supporters STILL believe Obama was not born in the US. In the face of all the evidence and facts proving he was, that level of willful ignorance pretty much confirms Hillary's "HALF" as deplorable.
7  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Hillary on: Sep 16, 2016, 01:42PM
Dusty,

Let's be clear: these guys are incapable of engaging in polite and respectful political dialog. Conservatives have allowed these guys to insult us and demean us over and over again so that there are only a few conservatives left on the forum. I just hate to see them bully and dominate like this, but it is the only tactic the Left knows how to do. AKA Saul Alinsky.

Steven

Said the guy who gets his discussion and dialog capabilities from Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.
8  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Hillary on: Sep 16, 2016, 08:01AM
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance.......
9  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Trump on: Sep 16, 2016, 02:22AM
Trump only released a single return. We did not get to see if he was one of the Americans who availed themselves of the amnesty offered several years previously. I have long suspected that is why he was so reluctant. Absent those returns, that is a s like a scenario as any other.
10  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Hillary on: Sep 16, 2016, 02:20AM
Billy Cordova,

You really want me off the PP, and I understand why. You are not a moderator, you are a biased liberal who wants to just defend the majority Left on the forum and chase off the conservatives. That is just another strong-armed tactic. You can't stand hearing things that go against the liberal agenda, can you?

Steven Norsworthy

I can't speak for Billy, but I doubt anyone here gives more than a single rat's posterior whether you stay or go. Billy was merely pointing out your rather infantile repitition of "I'm going to take my ball and leave" drivel that precedes your next posting of even more drivel. If you're goung to leave, then freakin' leave. It's not as if you're adding quality discourse to the conversations. Please, by all means, stay as long as you like, and contribute as prolifically as you feel called to. But. also, PLEASE, stop with the hair flipping, eye rolling, juvenile, "I'm outa here", BS unless you're really gonna leave.
11  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America: Take 3 on: Sep 16, 2016, 01:58AM
THis week's column:

Trump's Taxes

40+% of the American people are falling for a con. Donald Trump is taking the righteous anger of a large segment of the population, abused by the powers that be, and using it in an attempt usurp the most powerful, important position in the world. He might just get away with it.

Every card sharp or huckster has a “tell”, a mannerism or ‘tic” that gives away their scam. Trump’s “tell”s are legion, but none are more obvious or egregious than the sleight of hand he is performing around his medical and tax records.

The Donald certainly seems healthy enough to assume the Presidency, but he has refused to release his full medical records. He did go on reality TV this week and reveal the results of a basic physical to “Dr. Oz”. The lab results seem to show a healthy, 70 year old male who is a bit overweight.

Of the tests Trump said, “I did every test. I did it last week, and the samples all came back and I guess I wouldn’t be talking to you right now if they were bad. If they were bad, I would say let’s sort of skip this, right?” Which brings us to the tax returns…….

Since entering the race, Trump has said he cannot release his tax returns because he is under audit. The IRS, many tax attorneys and accountants, along with history prove the lie of this stance. Richard Nixon, the first American Presidential candidate to release his tax returns, was under audit when he did so.

Well, the audit has nothing to do with the refusal to release the tax returns. Donald Jr. just let the cat out of the bag in an interview with the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. The real reason is, "Because he's got a 12,000-page tax return that would create … financial auditors out of every person in the country asking questions that would distract from (his father's) main message."

Trump’s “main message” is “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it" (Hillary Clinton) themes his campaign has been built on. There is no doubt that questions about the ties and indebtedness to Russia and/or China, the lack of charitable giving, and avoidance of paying taxes in his returns might be a distraction from that agenda.

“If they were bad, I would say let’s sort of skip this, right?”

“Keep your eyes on the shiny object”.

Got it.
12  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Trump on: Sep 15, 2016, 05:42PM
Kinda like Rmoney's.
13  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Trump on: Sep 15, 2016, 04:16PM
Well, it appears at least one of the Trumps is capable of speaking the truth occasionally.

https://thinkprogress.org/donald-trump-jr-spills-the-beans-reveals-real-reason-his-father-wont-release-his-tax-returns-ea742aab90f9#.6q3d57tn4

"Trump Jr. didn’t mention the audit but said that his father would not release his tax returns during the election because it would create a “distraction” and people would have a lot of “questions.”

I think the only proper responses to that are, 1) DUH! 2) No S**T! 3) Ya Think?

Amazing.
14  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Trump on: Sep 15, 2016, 04:43AM
Conway was at a total loss for words when a CNN interviewer asked her if, in lieu of his actual tax returns, Trump would provide some form of documentation from the IRS showing that he was, indeed, under audit. It was actually a bit comical.
15  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Hillary on: Sep 15, 2016, 04:40AM
It occurred to me that Hillary is a bit like Nixon. Brilliant and well-qualified, but with a penchant for paranoia, privacy and secrecy that lays her low.

She's still better than Trump. Nixon did a fair amount of good, except when he didn't.

The difference is that Nixon had not been subjected to 30 years of intense scrutiny and manufactured scandal. He was just naturally paranoid.
16  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Trump on: Sep 14, 2016, 07:00PM

What I am pretty obviously noting is that this element is very welcome within the Trump camp. 

Cheers,
Andy

By the baskets full.
17  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Hillary on: Sep 14, 2016, 05:14AM

As a forensic psychiatrist I have seen this psychological paradigm before—in those with sociopathy.  Not infrequently, criminals attempt to hide their crimes with lies that are so obviously untrue that they leave investigators shaking their heads and chuckling. The criminals cannot tell that their lies are ineffective, because they are too insensitive to the feelings of others.

Remember when Hillary Clinton told the House Oversight Committee investigating Benghazi, “With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they'd they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make?”


Republicans are masterful at psychological projection and transference as well as false premises and equivalencies. With your posts, Mr. Snorsworthy, you show yourself to be a Grand Master amongst a group of masters. Now, if you would actually respond to some of the actual issues in the rebuttals to your posts rather than making yourself the issue (I see Trump grade narcissism in your posts) it would be nice and might actually foster a dialog.
18  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Hillary on: Sep 14, 2016, 05:08AM

She should have apologized for not wording it more carefully and clarified. She is talking about a small number of people who are in fact deplorable to most in terms of character and their personal sentiments. A distinction needs to be made between Trump voters and Trump supporters. I think she'd benefit from that distinction--it's that much closer to connecting with them and those who are so inclined. Trump may benefit from the same distinction regarding Clinton, but almost certainly far less so.

She should have differentiated between Trump voters in the primaries and Trump voters in the General election. In the primaries, her "deplorables" comment was actually a conservative estimate. +/- 15% of total Republicans voted in the primaries, and Trump won with a plurality, not a majority, so we're talking about less than 7.5% of Republicans when we say half of Trump supporters in the primaries are deplorable. I suspect that number is pretty close. Of course, it is also true that 100% of Trump supporters have no compunction about supporting deplorable positions, or he would have ZERO support.
19  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Trump on: Sep 13, 2016, 08:05PM

That's AWESOME!
20  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: On Hillary on: Sep 13, 2016, 09:06AM
Sunglasses? Really?? Give me a break. I don't wear them myself, but my wife won't walk out the door without hers on if it is before sundown. Hillary had an acute drop in BP, almost certainly as a result of her pneumonia and dehydration. This may also have been complicated, as Bruce (I think it was) confirmed, by her thyroid condition which has been well documented and known about for a long time. Again, had her LOC not rebounded immediately once she sat down you can bet they would have transported her to an ER immediately. You conspiracy mongers are too much.
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