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1  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America! on: Today at 03:21 PM

The most recent figures from the Post show 414 whites killed, compared to 223 blacks, as of Nov. 23, 2015."

Well, dang. Blacks make up 11% of the population, Whites make up 50%. So, THe rate for blacks is WAY higher than it is for whites. No doubt there are racists in BLM. I'd guess the % is about the same as it is in the TEA Party.
2  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America! on: Today at 01:17 PM
THis Week's Column:

Chicago Police just released a dash-cam video of a police officer jumping out of his patrol car and unloading his firearm into a black teenager. This teenager was armed with a small folding knife, but he was a good 20 or 30 feet from the officer and moving obliquely away. It does not appear the officer was under any threat from the teen.

Unlike so many of the other police shootings we have seen over the past several months and years, the officer in this case, after a year on desk duty while the case was under investigation, has been indicted on a charge of first degree murder.

Who can say what will happen at trial, but a reading of the original reports of this shooting are eerily similar to those of so many others in which the police officer was exonerated without being charged. Without the dash-cam video, it is highly likely this case would have had that same result.

In Minneapolis, Black Lives Matter has been protesting the death of a 24 year old black man shot in the process of being arrested. According to witnesses, the young man was not resisting arrest, and was laying on the ground.  Several witnesses claim he had already been handcuffed, a claim denied by the PD.

What is clear is that these kind of shootings are all too common in this country. What is also clear is that there is a segment of the population that has no problem with that fact, if they deign to recognize it exists in the first place.

The case in Minnesota has taken a particularly ugly turn. A group of white supremacist agitators has been shadowing the protests since they began. On Monday, they opened fire into the group of peaceful protesters, hitting 5 of them. It is a miracle none suffered life threatening injuries.

We are at an ugly place in this country today. There is a large segment of our population that is giving itself over to fear and hate. We have armed idiots stalking Muslim churches, maniacs slaughtering citizens in hopes of triggering a race war, and now this.

It would be nice if our “leaders” were speaking responsibly about these issues, but we see many of the candidates for our highest office pandering to the hate and fear. It is extremely hard to be proud to be an American these days.
3  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Donald Trump on: Today at 07:16 AM
You know, I spent a career in government, and in my experience, government IT is light years behind what is available in the private sector. I suspect this is as true at the SOS level as it is in municipalities. THis falls under the witch hunt/ kangaroo court insignificance that the vast majority of anti-Clinton nonsense has. 25 years of BUPKIS!
4  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Donald Trump on: Yesterday at 01:03 PM
Funny.  Most the posters from the left fit that description to a t. In the world of the crazy left the right is evil and the 1st amendment should be revoked for them (40% say this, at Dartmouth?) You don't listen to the right because you've already made up your mind.  So what's the point? I could type abcdefghij... and you'd have the same reaction.

Actually, that makes more sense than a lot of what you post. It has a logical, sequential order to it.
5  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Donald Trump on: Yesterday at 11:52 AM
Not at all.

When you can't defend your candidate, attack somebody else. 

Sometimes you make even less sense than usual.

OOPS, I missed who posted that. Never mind!
6  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Donald Trump on: Yesterday at 11:27 AM
talk about a non-sequitur.
7  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Donald Trump on: Yesterday at 10:06 AM
She, her husband and their consigliere's are very good at making things disappear.

I don't care how good they are, the full court press they have endured for 25 years now would have turned up something by now if it were there. I have no problem with the concept those on the right are so inept and incompetent that they can't find it, their governing proves that, but the law of averages would have had someone trip over something by now if there was any there, there!
8  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Donald Trump on: Yesterday at 09:54 AM
I know you just can't bring yourself to criticize your candidate. 

Hopefully, Hillary will not end up being "my candidate", but I have plenty of criticisms of her. She is far more hawkish and indiscriminate in her readiness to use the military than I would care to see our next President be. She has spent the majority of her career in bed with Wall St. and other corporatists who do not have the interests of the country writ large as a core interest. Etc., etc., etc. THat said, the 30 years of witch hunts, kangaroo courts, and tin foil hat conspiracies against her and her husband have turned up ZERO, ZILCH, BUPKIS, NADA other than a lie about a minor pecadillo. She is far from perfect, but she is orders of magnitude preferable to anyone the other side is offering. She is the single most thoroughly vetted candidate in the history of politics.
9  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Donald Trump on: Yesterday at 07:41 AM

No chemical weapons in Syria? 

When there was a violation of Obama's "red line" on chem weapons he played the US Congress and Putin like a Stradivarius. By convincing Putin he was a far more likely target of any chem weapons that strayed than was the US, an agreement to get rid of them magically appeared and the weapons are no more. THe "chlorine bombs" Assad has been using are IED's not manufactured chemical weapons.And, it was accomplished without the loss of a single American life.

Russia stopped at the border of Ukraine?

After the annexation of Crimea Putin massed troops at the border and EVERYONE expected a full on invasion. Obama slapped stringent sanctions on Putin's inner circle and, lo and behold, no invasion. Yeah, he is still aiding and abetting the insurgents, but his main objectives were stopped in their tracks.

Iran shutting down centrifuges?


You may engage in wilfull ignorance on these topics if you so choose, but only a strong and effective leader could have achieved these outcomes no matter how long you choose to swim in the Egyptian river of DeNile.

<Edit: Fixed quote>
10  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: NY Times: Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It on: Yesterday at 07:29 AM
True.  There is a book by Podhoretz (World War IV) where he demonstrates that when Imams start to make trouble, the Saudi family buys them off and tells them to point outside at problems.

Our problem is that we want peace and stability in the region, but the only way that ever happens is under the rule of a brutal dictatorship.

So we have to choose- either prop up a weak and feckless democratic government, or let a dictator come in and smooth it out.  We can't win.

Well, in the long run it is not ours to win or lose.
11  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Starting A Little Big Band on: Yesterday at 05:14 AM
Wow, A lot of Martins in this thread, two of them from Chicago. Any relations? I joined Jim's combo club, and bought the arrangements he has offered currently. all top notch. I'm looking forward to the charts the club generates. Thanks for the reference, guys!
12  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America! on: Nov 23, 2015, 02:41PM
Hope your Dad's OK, but,???? I haven't noticed anything worse than a mild elbow to the ribs.
13  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Donald Trump on: Nov 23, 2015, 02:38PM
The left ripped Bush apart. And so did some on the right.  The left press are afraid of going after Obama. Afraid of being labeled a racist? He's a poor leader by any measure.

There is no "left press". 98+% 0f media outlets are owned by 6 corporations, none of which is the least bit leftist by any definition. Obama is an above average leader who has no problem with leading from behind "THE SCENES", a phrase those on the right tend to leave outwwhenever they bring it up. No chemical weapons left in Syria, Russia stopped deadat the border in Ukraine, Iran at the table and in the process of shutting down their centrifuges, etc., etc., etc. THe right just cannot afford to give credit where credit is due. After the clusters their last 3 Presidents have left on the table they don't dare recognize the progress made under the last 2 Dems.
14  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Donald Trump on: Nov 23, 2015, 08:24AM
Actually, Trump would only be marginally worse than any of the riders in the GOP clown car. There is not a candidate in the whole group that would be a good person to have in the Presidency at this time in American history. Hillary is far from ideal, she is far to hawkish and has spent way to many years in bed with Wall St. and the corporatists,but she is orders of magnitude preferable to anyone on the other side. Bernie is the ONLY cnadidate that is proposing rational fixes to the serious problems that America faces today.
15  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Donald Trump on: Nov 23, 2015, 07:25AM
WE do have better turnout in Presidential years. And, Bernie is generating a LOT of energy in groups that don't usually come out, so we should see better turnout next year, especially in the primaries.
16  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Donald Trump on: Nov 23, 2015, 04:53AM
Except, Goldwater was a far more credible candidate.
17  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America! on: Nov 21, 2015, 05:08AM
The world is becoming more and more homogenized. If we think of humanity as one organism, it has steadily put languages and religions into extinction, every striving towards stability through alikeness.

We had thousands of religions that are now gone, and considered ridiculous by today's standards. The current big religions will some day be viewed the same way.

All of these differences that keep humanity from being a coherent and stable organism will be ironed out. Eventually one "religious ideology", even if it's atheism, will be the only one that exists. If we continue having ridiculous squabbles over race, humanity will blend race differences out of existence as well (hopefully through normal reproduction, and not genocide). Even the concept of nation states will some day be seen as a horrible idea.

I'm not saying that I'm all for anything listed above, but seriously, look at history. Most of the world has begun emulating western society. It may only take another two hundred years, and everyone will agree that all the wars and all the hatred were just growing pains for the new globalized human organism.

Or one of the parts of the human organism that is working towards chaos will, like a virus, destroy the entire organism.

That is to say, I believe that humanity cannot avoid  a conflict that attempts to homogenize culture in the Middle East that is trying to cause chaos in the entire human system.

I believe this is what the allegorical statement, "and the meek shall inherit the Earth" describes. We will either "evolve" socially and psychologically beyond the "fight or flight/ hunter/ gatherer" paradigm that served us so well in becoming the dominant species on the planet, or our prospensity for developing ever increasingly better and more creative ways to kill each other will lead us to self destruct, leaving the planet for the next dominant species. That is, if we don't do that first by making the planet uninhabitable for ourselves. We're well on the way to that as well. We are not nearly as smart, collectively, as we need to be.
18  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America! on: Nov 20, 2015, 06:46AM
I am amazed at the willingness of so many to throw away everything this country has ever claimerd to stand for in their hate and fear. As horrific as Paris was, it, and ISIS in general, do not pose an existential threat of any kind to the USA, or any of our allies, unless we choose to undo ourselves in our responses. Since Paris more than 3 times as many Americans have died as a result of gun violence in this country, and the difference in the responses is dramatic and shameful. IT is really hard to be proud to be an AMerican these days.
19  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America! on: Nov 20, 2015, 05:57AM
So can free handouts and doleout hikes for every extra dependent you can produce and substantiate on a tax form! Promote the general Welfare!

 :) :D :) :D

Indeed, I suspect the founders understood there are balances that need to be accomplished. IT's why they wrote the document the way they did.
20  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America! on: Nov 20, 2015, 05:00AM

However it has always been the roll of the govt to have a standing army to protect us.  Healthcare is not in the Constitution.

Um, no, a standing army has NOT been a roll of government....

"The Congress shall have Power To ...raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years....


I believe there is a clause calling for the Navy, or perhaps the Coast Guard, to protect sea lanes, but a standing army was not something the founders wanted. And health care can certainly be inferred from the "promote the general welfare" clause in the preamble.
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