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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: XO 1236, just thinking out loud on: Yesterday at 08:34 PM
Schilke makes Greenhoe instruments now. They are very good.

XO trombones (they are still Jupiters, but I think the Jupiter logo and name are nowhere near the XO branding) are very good. I've played a few that I would buy in an instant for a new instrument.
2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Need some sound isolating headphones on: Yesterday at 06:57 AM
Can you expand on that a bit?

Bose and other companies use active noise canceling, using software and powered hardware to change what you hear through the headphones. It's great at what it does most of the time.

Noise isolation is just blocking out sound, usually in an earplugs-like fashion.

I prefer isolation, since the sound of the 'phone is not changed- Bose and other active noise canceling setups don't sound nearly as good as top end headphones or IEMs.

I use Etymotic IEMs (can't remember the model number) with foam tips, which makes the world silent. They also sound great.
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 60H on: Sep 16, 2017, 10:55PM
800 "plus" parts and labor? Yeah, that's a bit much. Who quoted that? Sounds like they didn't want the job?


I'm talking about the modern 62H slide for sale in the classifieds, which currently is up for $800, plus the cost to have it changed over. I don't own any other Conn slides... I don't think Chris would approve of me turning a Bach slide into TIS for a 60H!
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 60H on: Sep 16, 2017, 03:09PM
800 plus parts and labor to turn it into to TIS (at a different length and width to the original) seems a little silly, IMO.

5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 60H on: Sep 15, 2017, 05:36PM
Just got back from Jim's place.


His slide, which is actually a Fuchs slide with opera wheel, red tubes, and red crook, is much better than mine. With all leadpipes it blew more open and consistently and sounded better.

My bell section is fine, even in its beater-ish state, thankfully.

My leadpipe looks pretty beat up compared to any of his, including the one that came with his slide.

I think I'll have the slide rebuilt and a new leadpipe put in.  Amazed
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 60H on: Sep 14, 2017, 10:37PM

7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: New member with a question about a Shires Bass Trom on: Sep 14, 2017, 04:57PM
Each component (bell, valve section, slide, tuning slide) has it's own designation. Other than a couple artist instruments with a certain selection of parts, there is no different model of Shires bass trombone.

You can see where the part designations are on the different parts of the instrument- under the bell near the back bell brace, on the hand grip area of the slide, looking at the valves (they are pretty distinctive!) and a little marking somewhere on the tuning slide.
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 60H on: Sep 14, 2017, 04:40PM
I have an NY50 in my current Edwards slide. They're great pipes,  but a chunk of change, and more importantly a long wait!
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 60H on: Sep 14, 2017, 12:18PM
For reference, here's my teacher in a video (on the left, Alex Iles on the right)-


I was recommended the 50 leadpipe by a well-known and knowledged tech, who said it was a good drop-in replacement.

Have no fear! I'm not putting dual Thayers on it. Yet...
10  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 60H on: Sep 14, 2017, 02:29AM
It has a little play that direction, and then the other axis too. So if I feel like fixing it (it's much more minor than my 42B valve was or the 70H I used previously) maybe a replate for the core.
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 60H on: Sep 13, 2017, 11:57PM
I'm not really trying to get it to be Bach-like, just playable. If there's another cheap leadpipe out there I can replace it with, I will.

The currently leadpipe has "steps" inside from Morse shanks being pushed in too far. It would also be nice to use modern mouthpiece with a little more ease!
12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Mouthpiece for Mirafone contrabass on: Sep 13, 2017, 10:20PM
I played one recently that was matched to a Yamaha tuba mouthpiece on the small side. It played and responded very well with that setup, surprisingly.
13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Conn 60H on: Sep 13, 2017, 10:19PM
I've taken a step towards the dark side and bought an eBay Elkhart 60H.

It's in pretty good shape (former school horn!), and plays pretty well. Some Conn wear, but not a lot. Valve has a tiny amount of play but it's clean.

The horn plays well, but the leadpipe has been reamed out by too many Morse shanks and it plays like it has. I'm going to have it pulled, and I've been advised to replace it with a cheap new 50 leadpipe. I see nothing wrong with this, unless someone here advises me otherwise.

Right now it feels similar to the beater 70H I borrowed from UCLA for a few months, but easier to find the "sweet spot" on, even with my 1G. I'm excited to see how it performs with a new leadpipe.
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: What case should I get? on: Sep 13, 2017, 10:17AM
The small bore horn, right? Personally, I like the SKB 360 a lot. Tiny, protective, light, unassuming.
15  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Looking for a mouthpiece that's bigger than a Bach 1 1/4G but smaller than a 1G on: Sep 08, 2017, 08:59AM
The 1G is a much smaller rim size than most of the other "large" mouthpieces, like the Schilke 60, but still very deep.
16  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Beethoven #9 on: Sep 07, 2017, 03:32PM
Last time I played this, we took all repeats.

I got quite good at mental addition, trying to add up how many measures you rest before entering.
17  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Open wrap? Closed wrap? on: Sep 04, 2017, 01:24PM
David Cantero, principal trombone of LA Phil, plays a closed wrap 42BG.

Noah Gladstone's super Bach 42s are really great- the closed wrap version with a new valve is especially good.

I would have kept the closed wrap on my 42B, but the valve I bought doesn't accommodate it.
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: LEAD TROMBONE //SPECS//NEEDS /DESIRES/ATTEMPTS on: Sep 03, 2017, 11:58PM
I've had two 6Hs. I feel like my first one, a '65, was a little better, but it was years ago. My current '67 feels pretty great, and with a mouthpiece switch to a Yamaha 48 I can play 2nd or 3rd just as well.

I think any issues I have with the horn are all me acclimating to a little instrument and closer partials. I've gotten compliments on my "lead sound" on the last couple reading band sessions here, when I felt mediocre at best. That's the sign of a good horn!
19  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: Ear Training - how do you listen? on: Aug 31, 2017, 10:25PM
I always listen for the bass note. It's not always the root, but a good portion of the time it is, and it's usually pretty obvious when it's not.
20  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Shires Q series on: Aug 31, 2017, 06:06PM
China is not a third world country.
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