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61  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Iowa Caucus Results on: Feb 09, 2016, 08:11AM
True dat. Bernie is a Democrat in the mold of FDR. He calls himself an Independent, and/ or a Social Democrat, but he caucuses with and, generally, votes with the Democrats. Kids do understand what a Democratic Socialist is. THey have grown up in the era since the red scare propaganda of the right lost its boogieman in the totalitarian regime of the USSR, and see the good that DS has achieved in the world. They are not scared of the word the way us baby boomers were.
Because they're ignorant.
62  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America: Take 3 on: Feb 09, 2016, 07:45AM
All of my columns are pro-America, although I am staunchly in favor of taking control of excesses perpetrated on the American people by the predatory Corporate capitalism that exists here today. Al Franken said it best......

"We love America just as much as they do. But in a different way. You see, they love America like a 4-year-old loves his mommy. Liberals love America like grown-ups. To a 4-year-old, everything Mommy does is wonderful and anyone who criticizes Mommy is bad. Grown-up love means actually understanding what you love, taking the good with the bad and helping your loved one grow. Love takes attention and work and is the best thing in the world. That’s why we liberals want America to do the right thing. We know America is the hope of the world, and we love it and want it to do well."

I am not a "My country, right or wrong", or "Love it or Leave it" American. I am a "Change it or Lose it" American.
I disagree. They are all pretty much whining and complaining about what's wrong with Anerica. Of course you can critique and criticize the US.  It just seems that your job is to blame republicans for everything. You don't need like an occupy protester. (That's not a good thing for anyone. Especially a man at your age and experience)  You also are sometimes hard to distinguish from protesters or politicians in other countries who hate us. Where's a column on Things America has done for good in this world? I'm sorry Russ but you are part of what's wrong with America right now. Adding to the polarization. It's sad.
63  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America: Take 3 on: Feb 09, 2016, 07:15AM

Yeah, it's pretty telling when criticism of the act of criticism comes up, isn't it.
Advocating for improvements to quality of life that aren't approved by an accepted authority are plainly wrong.
You have to conform to an appropriate authority to be good ... clearly.
Noticing that anything is wrong, particularly openly, is anti-whatever you're criticizing.
Such is the nature of intellectual cowardice.
Note that these are the kinds of meta issues that underlie all discussion (and "discussion" or the effective prevention of discussion in many cases). Ignoring them can be harmful to the social climate.
Thanks Niedermeier.  Wow.
64  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America: Take 3 on: Feb 09, 2016, 07:14AM
The government pouring federal subsidies into an already mature industry doesn't seem very Capitalist to me...

And does not being automatically pro-America or pro-Capitalism make it necessarily wrong? It is possible to have legitimate critiques of America and Capitalism.
Don't know
I just asked a question. Russ answered. Thanks for the help though.  Yeah, RIGHT.
65  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America: Take 3 on: Feb 08, 2016, 05:42PM
Here we go again. Third time is the charm, right? Since there were over 180K "views" and more than 160 pages of discussion, I am going to continue to post my op-ed columns. I have gotten much good feedback, and the ideas for future columns, from those discussions. Hopefully, we can minimize the poop slinging this time around.


Two types of people support fracking, extracting oil and gas by injecting water and chemicals into the earth to break them free; those who are ignorant of how the process works, and those who stand to benefit from it. No sane person who understands the process can possibly support it unless it is somehow lining their pockets.

The Florida House recently passed a bill that not only allows fracking in Florida, but restrains local communities from disallowing the practice in their backyards. It’s somewhat akin to allowing frackers to hold a gun to the head of communities in Florida and play Russian Roulette with them. It is reminiscent of the movie “Deer Hunter” where an American POW was forced to play the game for the benefit of gamblers.

It’s hard to know where to begin when listing the dangers and pitfalls, literally, of the process. One of the biggest is groundwater contamination. The water and sand injected into the fracking wells is rife with a chemical soup of unknown contaminants. No one can/will say for sure what they are because companies that engage in the practice have bought disclosure protection from our legislators under the guise of “proprietary formulation”.

Fracking in Florida, with our shallow aquifers, has the potential to turn the entire state into a poison soup making Flint look like a kid’s game. For those of us in West Volusia county, the chemical threat pales in the comparison to the geologic potentials.

Oklahoma, a fracking centerpiece, exists on a solid substrate made of igneous rock. Prior to fracking, any movement of the ground in the state was rare and minimal. Since fracking began, Oklahoma has seen an increase in earthquakes of magnitude of 3 or larger from 109 in 2013 to 585 in 2014 to 907 in 2015.

It is not hard to imagine a sinkhole the size of Lake Okeechobee opening in the limestone substrate of Central Florida as a result if fracking is allowed here. Fortunately the Florida Senate has yet to take up the bill, SB 318, ostensibly because the DEP has not yet weighed in during the process.

Feedback from concerned citizens is having an impact in slowing this process. Representives Costello and Santiago voted against the good of Floridians in helping to pass HB191. You can still call Senators to register your position.

Dorothy Hukill, 850-487-5008
Tom Lee, Chair, Appropriations committee – 866-583-2908

Do you ever write pro capitalism or pro American op eds? Don't know
66  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Iowa Caucus Results on: Feb 08, 2016, 05:10PM
That's because Bernie isn't really a Socialist.  He's a Liberal Democrat but doesn't usually vote with the Democratic party so he calls himself something else.

You underrate kids.  Most of them know perfectly well what a Socialist is.  I worry more about the aging Boomers who really don't understand the difference between being resentful of smarter youngsters and foreigners and xenophobia.
Huh? He votes with the dems 98% of the time.
67  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Iowa Caucus Results on: Feb 08, 2016, 01:43PM
Iknow exactly what he means.
Of course you do.
"Social conservatism is a group of political ideologies centred on preserving traditional beliefs, attitudes and philosophy, in the face of social progressivism. The aims of social conservatism vary from organisation to organisation, and from country to country."

"One who favors a specific set of social policies, generally including opposition to abortion rights, euthanasia, same-sex marriage, and sexual permissiveness, often based on a particular reading of Judeo-Christian values."
68  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: New Hampshire Primary on: Feb 08, 2016, 09:16AM
Clearly you haven't followed your own advice with respect to Hillary or Bernie.  But I know you'd vote for anybody the Republicans put up, even if he hates Dentists. Evil
Anybody? No.
I am evil. I'm a dentist. Evil
69  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: New Hampshire Primary on: Feb 08, 2016, 08:23AM
Quite frankly, the Republicans have not been running on any kind of policy.  All I hear is "deport illegal aliens" (aka Mexicans and other Latinos), bomb ISIS, and repeal Obamacare.  Nothing constructive.  I'm really in a quandary about who to vote for.  All bullies and liars.
Go to there websites.
All hillary is saying is republicans are evil. All bernie is saying is republicans are evil and I will give you free stuff.
70  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: New Hampshire Primary on: Feb 08, 2016, 08:06AM

You mean you think the GOP fans may actually consider some of the more electable and viable candidates?
That would be a nice reversal!
I've been thinking this has to be the last straw on that count for about three decades though, so my confidence in the GOP adults to deal with the problem appropriately or effectively isn't very high.
Meanwhile the dems have a choice between liar, witch Hillary and crazy Bernie. Yeah, RIGHT.
71  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Iowa Caucus Results on: Feb 07, 2016, 09:25PM
This is correct. He seemed to miss what I was labeling as the third direction. Religion in politics isn't based on reason almost by definition therefore yes, it's a distraction. There, in my opinion, is no strong conservative political voice in the United States today. We have liberals on both sides that happen to also be social conservatives. Hillary and Barack included.
hillary and Obama are social conservatives?  That's funny.
72  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: Science Matters on: Feb 07, 2016, 05:47PM
BVB. How can you not get it???
73  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: Science Matters on: Feb 07, 2016, 05:33PM
In the interest of being fair:

OK, I made a comment which I prefaced with a statement that I was speaking only for myself.

You then proceeded to attempt to tell me that what I was really saying must surely be related to publicised issues.  (<warning buzzer here> Wrong!)  You also suggested that their (scientists) detachment may be why I don't connect with what they say.  If only THAT were true, but most "scientists" I have contact with these days are, IMHO, anything BUT detached, for reasons enumerated in a previous post.

In all of our very few "conversations" you've done the same - tried to tell me that I'm wrong, sometimes rudely sometimes with a semblance of being polite, but ALWAYS that I'm wrong.  Presumably because what I said doesn't reflect positively on your particular bias.

Perhaps you should take on your own arguments about thinking critically and being honest with yourself.  I would add that you could give others the benefit of the doubt.  We ALL walk our own path in life and we ALL have had different experiences.  Do not assume that because one persons experience doesn't match your own, or doesn't match your personal bias that they are wrong.  In EVERY disagreement there is at least a 50% chance that you are wrong.

I you want to disagree with someone that's fine, but don't just tell them they're wrong and why, ask them instead what has brought them to said conclusion.  If/when they respond, then you have opportunity to decide:

a) OK, they have foundation for their perspective, or

b) The reasons seem inapplicable or flawed, ask a few more questions to determine this or if they've simply not articulated their position well.  Perhaps suggest an alternative interpretation (this is where you get to say you think they may be wrong, but ALWAYS be polite, and ALWAYS be ready and willing to admit error) {I also need to take my own advice on politeness, it's an area where my emotions can get in the way}

rinse and repeat.

To aid you in understanding my position in this last: I despise formal debating.  Just because someone is able to articulate more effectively than another doesn't make them correct.  One may win a debate and still be incorrect.  In my opinion, all a formal debate proves is who is the better dabater.  In no wise does it aid in finding the truth.

Finally, as I fully expect you to respond by telling me how wrong I am again rather than considering my suggestions, you probably shouldn't expect any further responses from me, I have better things to do with my time.
Good! Well said.
74  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Iowa Caucus Results on: Feb 06, 2016, 12:58PM
Looked it up. It's all BS. Keep digging.
Polls have Rubio beating Hillary and sanders. Watch out!
75  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Iowa Caucus Results on: Feb 06, 2016, 12:55PM
No, they involve the mishandling of campaign and party money, lying about his personal story, and a sorry record as the Speaker of the floriDUH House and as our Senator. And, probably some more stuff once people start really digging.

ill look it up
Are Hillary and Bernie clean, btw?
76  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Iowa Caucus Results on: Feb 06, 2016, 12:19PM
Unfortunately, Marco has worse problems than that. If he starts making a showing, the Dems will start going after him.
i don't think his issues are a problem. At least they didn't involve classified info.
77  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Iowa Caucus Results on: Feb 06, 2016, 11:02AM
I think the Dems like Cruz even better than Trump. Rubio's going to be the toughest opponent but he hasn't gotten much scrutiny yet.
its begun.
Two days ago
From Russ's darling.
But the sanders backers only care that Rubio has no bills introduced and passed. (He actually has a couple minor ones).?Not sanders.
And what bills has sanders introduced that have passed? Answer? Zero. And he's been in congress for how long?
78  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Iowa Caucus Results on: Feb 06, 2016, 10:45AM
You'll notice that the Dems don't trash Trump or Cruz to get a head-start in the general election, the way they usually would. That's because they want them to be nominated.
Of course.  Even Harry Reid is rooting for trump. The dens will start going after Rubio hard and very soon.  Can't wait to see washerman Shultz start barking.
79  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Iowa Caucus Results on: Feb 06, 2016, 10:11AM
80  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Iowa Caucus Results on: Feb 05, 2016, 07:49PM
Who said it wasn't, or that you were joking? You're obliviously drawn to stories with particular slants...

That just says whether or not you agree. Not whether or not they are correct or valid.
Never mind Bob.
Oh boy. Don't know
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