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1  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Trombone lessons on: Sep 29, 2017, 01:42PM
What part of DFW are you in?  Mid-Cities, Ft. Worth side, Dallas, Garland/Mesquite, North side, Plano/Frisco/Lewisville?

Lots of good teachers available, an area would help.
2  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: 12 major scales in 2 octaves in 2 minutes? on: Aug 12, 2017, 09:50AM
Instead of doing the math, I sat down with metronome and timer to figure this out.  To start with 12 scales, two minutes, 10 seconds per scale and breath.

1/4, 1/8 note pattern comes out to 108 bpm with a breath every 10 seconds considering you can play every 2 octave scale on 1 breath. 

This is very doable by a good high school player with F attachment.

I am band director that has sat on these audition panels for the all-state process in Texas for 30+ years and the number one reason players don't make the initial cut of the process is not knowing scales.  They leave those points on the table and don't go further even though they played the audition music better than others that played the scales and the music mediocre at best.  If you want to assure yourself of making the band make sure your know your scales.  If you can't spell them orally you can't play them, if you rely on slide patterns and tricks you will make mistakes in the audition. 

Scales are like spelling tests.  When we were young and had to study for spelling test we repeated the words orally or by writing them doing as many times as it took to get the correct spelling.  Learn scales the same way, say the key signature, how many sharps and flats and what they are, then spell the scale up and down, if you can't read it out loud you can't read it mentally while playing.  Most errors happen on the way down because many people say and teach that coming down is the same as going up just backwards.  Not true, we read music left to right, up and down, not backwards.  The reason fewer errors happen going up is because from the time we are young we hear and sing the ABC song, the going up the scale order the ABC's is ingrained with us from then on.  We never hear and are not taught in music well enough, AGFEDCBA.  Late in my career I realized much of this after teaching elementary  music in the middle of my career and being involved with the K thru 2nd grade teacher and how they taught reading. 

When we read a book we hear the words we are reading in our mind.  If you don't read music and first hear the note names of a scale in your mind as you read left to right up and down the staff you will have many errors.  Also, you must call a note by the correct name Eb and Ab must be called that name mentally and orally or you will play E or A natural or whatever note you have misnamed.  You cannot play the correct slide position if you don't mentally name the correctly first as you read.  As we become better and fluent readers this happens very naturally and in milliseconds.
3  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: 12 major scales in 2 octaves in 2 minutes? on: Aug 10, 2017, 11:26AM
He said "where possible", that would most likely take away the Eb, Db, D, E, and probably C for most players in high school.
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Mike Olsen ball bearing rotors! on: Jul 26, 2017, 09:40AM
Eric,

Thanks for your input.  This is the information I am looking for.  I will contact you in the next few days to visit about this.

My horn already has an open wrap and convertible bell that Eric Swanson did for me in the mid-80's.

John
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Mike Olsen ball bearing rotors! on: Jul 26, 2017, 06:46AM
You are correct and I have two of the best trombone repair people in my area for that.  I am interested in what improvement the new Olsen rotary valve may make in a 42b similar to mine might make.
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Mike Olsen ball bearing rotors! on: Jul 25, 2017, 09:52AM
Any news or pictures yet?
7  Teaching & Learning / Schools, Colleges and Conservatories / Re: What to Do for College? on: Jul 21, 2017, 10:04AM
Ethan,

I am going to give you another school to consider that is in Michigan.  Western Michigan, the trombone teacher there is Steve Wolfinbarger.  He is a great teacher.
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Mike Olsen ball bearing rotors! on: Jul 16, 2017, 11:57AM
BurgerBob/Aidan,
Have you had one of these put on your 42b yet? 

If so, how is it?  I always enjoy your reviews and perspective on how new or modified trombones perform.

I am looking at having a new rotor put on my Eric Swanson modified corporation 42b.  The horn/slide are still great but the valve after all these years is clanky and loud.  This Olsen rotor valve looks very interesting and I would appreciate your feedback if you have had one of these put on your 42b.

Thanks,

John
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Greenhoe Trombones now being Made by Schilke on: Jul 12, 2017, 02:03PM
Want a Greenhoe quality horn? - contact M&W Custom Trombones.

https://www.customtrombones.com/

 Good! Good! Good! Good!

+1

I played on the Schilke Greenhoe and the M&W trombones at Texas Music Educator's convention in February.  I started at the Schilke booth and then went right over to the M&W booth.

The Schilke/Greenhoe horns are good, nothing special to me.  The M&W on the other hand were special, when it is time for me to buy replace the large tenor and bass that I currently play these will be what I buy.  The M&W guys are making some great trombones.
10  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: I'm Going To Have My First Trombone/Bass Trombone Lesson on: Jun 27, 2017, 03:25PM
I looked up the location for your lesson and it appears that it is at a local music store.  My experience has been that those teachers may not alway be the best qualified (some also are very good, but that is the exception).  You are in the Detroit area, there must be a university/college or jr./community college with a trombone teacher within driving distance you can study with.  Start googling and calling and find a teacher that can help you be the player you want to be.
11  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Help with 2nd Trombone Purchase on: Apr 23, 2017, 11:09AM
Bruce, the Yamaha 543 its discontinued, I know it can be found used like the Benge's you love.  However, sometimes they are difficult to find and it is always better for kid/family to play the instrument in this situation to know they really like the feel and sound of the the horn. 

To me any instrument should be treated as a treasure whether it is a a vintage Conn/Bach/Holton/etc. or a new one.  I agree that if they were to get the Elkhart 88h that it would be wise to get something like the Mack Brass, Wessex large bore, or one by Tempest Music Instruments out of San Antonio or a used Blessing 88/something similar for marching band/parades.
12  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Help with 2nd Trombone Purchase on: Apr 23, 2017, 10:59AM
Flame away on me that's ok.  If a kid can start on tuba or a euphonium a kid can start on a .547 bore trombone.  I have started beginners on .547 bore trombones for 30 plus years as a band director.  Teach them how to breath, set an embouchure, and start a note the correct way with the tongue it works.  Also, have used a 5g or similar sized mouthpiece to start them on.  Again, if a you can start a kid on a tuba mouthpiece, they can start on a .547 trombone with 5g type mouthpiece it they are taught to hold it correctly, breath correctly, form/set an embouchure correctly and tongue start a note it works.  

Get your son the 88h he likes.  He is taking lessons, it will be fine.  
13  Teaching & Learning / Schools, Colleges and Conservatories / Re: Thinking about future music education on: Apr 17, 2017, 12:26PM
When to do you graduate?  If it is this spring you are late to be starting this process.  Auditions for admittance have already happened at most schools.  One of my graduating seniors has already auditioned and been accepted to two schools and is just waiting for final scholarship offers to make his decision.

If it is next year, good for you for getting an early start.

What state are you in?  You probably would want to go to school in the state you want to teach in because of teacher certification issues that could come up if going to a different state from where you go to college.

14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Please recommend me a mouthpiece on: Apr 02, 2017, 06:48PM
2 names

Doug & Elliot
15  Creation and Performance / Music, Concerts and Recordings / Re: Rimsky Tbone Concerto Piano Recording on: Mar 27, 2017, 12:40PM
Here is a link to get it on CD as Bruce suggested.

http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/advanced-trombone-solos-volume-2-sheet-music/3365000?narrow_by=trombone

Although, I think someone is very confused where says Rimsky-Korsakov performed it on this CD like it says when you click on the song list.   :-0 ;-) Amazed Don't know Confused
16  Creation and Performance / Music, Concerts and Recordings / Re: Rimsky Tbone Concerto Piano Recording on: Mar 27, 2017, 12:30PM
It is not on SmartMusic.
17  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Transposing? on: Mar 17, 2017, 02:25PM
Since it does not seem you asked your band director, here is what I would say if you were in my band (retired from 32 year career) and pretty close to what your band director would say.

"I don't care what part you want to play from, play the bass clef part when we practice and perform.  Learn the bass clef part when you practice and you can compare to the treble part when you practice to learn but play using the bass clef part so you don't make a mistake when you have a brain fart trying to read the treble clef in the middle of our performance."
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Greenhoe at ATW on: Mar 12, 2017, 01:54PM
I did not play the Greenhoe Schilke at ATW but did play on it at TMEA.  In fact I played it back to back to the M&W Custom after walking across the exhibit hall to their booth.  I liked the M&W much better.  I even told Michael and Matthew because they used to work with Greenhoe before he closed his shop.  I played the tenor and the bass at Shilke and also at M&W and like the both versions of the M&W better.

If I were buying a new tenor or bass right now I would work with Michael and Matthew to design and build me new trombones.
19  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Conn or Holton as main bass trombone? on: Mar 12, 2017, 09:18AM
I had my wife listen also.  She is a musician and chose the Conn, her quote "It was smooth as buttah"

Also, is your background track something on CD that we could buy or something you made with Band in a Box?

Thanks, it is nice to hear your playing.
20  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Conn or Holton as main bass trombone? on: Mar 04, 2017, 05:29PM
I liked the Holton more also.  I have a 181 and love it.  Your sound with that 10 inch bell is like dark chocolate pudding to me-like Andy Griffith used to say mmm, mmm, good.
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