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41  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: How to get a better sound when playing loud? on: Apr 02, 2017, 01:16AM
Denis Wick used to say that most people cannot play loud because they don't practice loud.... has to be pretty central to it. Most young players only play loud in ensembles, expecting it to just happen when needed. It does not.

Chris Stearn
42  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Who in their right mind plays a Bach 1 1/2G ?? on: Mar 31, 2017, 02:08AM
Chris, I'm really interested in how this turns out.


Well, this is not my project.... as you can see, I have my doubts, but the guy doing it is very confident and the Zirconium Rath B2 copy was very accurate, apart from the rim, which changed under polishing. What they have is an early Mt Vernon example with periods after Mt and N Y and the slightly longer early shank. I think they plan to do it in brass first, then perhaps Zirconium, which I far prefer to Stainless.... a clone in brass would be fine with me...

Chris Stearn
43  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Who in their right mind plays a Bach 1 1/2G ?? on: Mar 31, 2017, 12:58AM
I bought an Artisan 1G a while back out of curiosity. In that case, I think the weight helps it tremendously, and the other design tweaks they did are excellent. It ends up being a credible alternative to Yamaha Yeo mouthpiece, a Griego .75, a Greg Black 1-1/8G, or something like a 113/L or M Doug Elliott.

As far as I am aware, Vincent Bach never made a 1G, so I don't know what they found in the 'mouthpiece fault' but that 1G generally available could indeed do with some improvement.  As for the 1 1/2G, there are enough people out there that love their Mt Vernon examples to create a demand for copies that are the same as the original... however, I doubt that they can be recreated, which is why many of the copies have been 'improved'....
We shall see.

Chris Stearn
44  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Who in their right mind plays a Bach 1 1/2G ?? on: Mar 30, 2017, 02:52PM
Well, Bill (WGW) tried the Artisan today, and I think felt the same as me.... whilst not a bad mouthpiece, the extra weight and change of distribution of that weight on the outside does not improve the mouthpiece.... why did they do it ??
What is wanted is a real top quality copy with no messing around... no 'improvements'....
I have sent one the my mt vernons down to someone in London who will have it copied on a CNC lathe.... holding breath.....

Chris Stearn.
45  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / Re: Adrian Hirst, Black Dyke Band, UK on: Mar 29, 2017, 03:36AM
It is good to hear such positive news. It may be a long road back, but it looks like the road is there to be travelled. Having had a nasty accident myself years ago, I know how the world can change in a second... and how you can get back on the treadmill... with time and effort.

Chris Stearn
46  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Has anybody even seen a Conn 111H before? on: Mar 28, 2017, 02:23AM
Yes, that is a Conn 111H.  Could that bell be yellow brass ? Interesting....

Chris Stearn
47  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Rath Nickel-Silver bell and Uli Pfreimbtner on: Mar 28, 2017, 02:15AM
Each bell material has it's own challenges for the bell maker, from soft copper to hard springy nickel silver. We might get an insight from member 'Bellend' who has been a bell maker. A highly skilled job.

Chris Stearn
48  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / MOVED: Rath Nickel-Silver bell and Uli Pfreimbtner on: Mar 27, 2017, 12:23PM
This topic has been moved to Instruments.

49  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Rath Nickel-Silver bell and Uli Pfreimbtner on: Mar 27, 2017, 07:46AM
I was around the factory when the first nickel silver bass bells were made.... the process was exactly the same as for all other bells.

Chris Stearn
50  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Der Rosenkavalier Suite - 3rd trombone part? on: Mar 27, 2017, 01:25AM
THe challenge is not the notation... it's where you put the notes and how you make them sound....

Chris Stearn
51  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Advice on Hitting High Notes? on: Mar 25, 2017, 03:59PM
Sometimes it is worth paying someone who knows, for an hour of their time. This is one such time. Find the right person and pay. This is not going to be sorted here. Good luck finding the right person.  Evil Evil

52  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Helping vs Self Validation? on: Mar 23, 2017, 02:18PM
At what point does posting a comment to help a member become more about self validation? Topics concerning range seem to particularly fall victim to this, and often the OP disappears off the radar leaving a trail of fractious comments.
It's difficult not to get involved when it's a topic that may have a lot of resonance due to one's own past difficulties. I try and post based on my experiences, which may be very different from others on this forum, but I'm often left with the feeling that there's a desire for a convergence, to only have one possible solution to an issue. "There Can Be Only One".
This has a chilling effect, and creates an intolerance to newer ideas. Your thoughts please.

Goodness.... I don't post to self validate.... I've been around far too many years.... 33 at Scottish Opera and 26 at the Royal Conservatoire of Scotland... to need to massage my ego on this site. I am sure that some people find me arrogant, self opinionated and domineering..... but that's my nice side....
Many posters are wracked with certainty and burdened with insight, but that is what forums are all about.
What anybody can do on here is pretty limited.... honestly, I can do things in a one-to-one session that simply cannot be done here... period.
This forum is what it is... and it has incredible value, but also incredible limitations.

Chris Stearn
53  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Rath R8 - to buy or not to buy on: Mar 20, 2017, 03:11AM
Hi Merv,
An R8 can be a very attractive trombone. It will look pretty and feel great to play. It will not make you a better player though. I am using a double (R9) and single (R8) setup. The R8 is a lot lighter and you will get a massive list of options so you can build a unique instrument. More than anything you get the joy of owning a hand crafted beautiful instrument.... downside... you have to pay for it  Evil
If you want to go for it I can talk about options via PM if you want.

Chris Stearn
54  Town Hall / Comments and Suggestions / Re: Thank you, moderators and frequent posters. on: Mar 16, 2017, 01:42AM
It would be rude of me not to respond on behalf of the moderating team and say how much we appreciate the sentiments expressed.
It is nice to know that people like this place.

Chris Stearn

Chief Administrator/Moderator.
55  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Sackbuts -- how to get into playing the sackbut? on: Mar 16, 2017, 01:39AM
A sackbut will not help if you find it hard to play quietly... use a small tenor and work at your end of the dynamic range. You should have no problem blending with modern woodwind who can often be pretty beefy. Equipment is not always an answer.

Chris Stearn
56  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Griego Bass pieces on: Mar 15, 2017, 07:10AM
Anyone ever tried or are you currently playing The Griego 1.5 Bass trombone mouthpiece and/or the Dave Taylor line of Griego pieces(specifically the 1.75 or the 1.5)?
Your thoughts??

The 1.5 is much bigger than a Bach... 2 is like a 1 1/2g but much more open.
57  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / Re: Adrian Hirst, Black Dyke Band, UK on: Mar 14, 2017, 02:01AM
Very sorry to hear that. I wish them a speedy and full recovery.

Chris Stearn
58  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Greenhoe at ATW on: Mar 14, 2017, 01:56AM
My first thought when I saw Chris' comment was about his comment in the 1.5g thread where he says he tried out a Bach Artisan 1.5g and said:

"sound and blow are excellent... my section mates were split between the Artisan and the MV. but testing ended because the rim is simply dreadful !!!! "

Granted, his MV also gives him the sound he wants, but it seems as though if he did not have the MV, the Artisan 1.5 would not suit him because of the feel.

I think it all matters.  Sound, feel, and appearance.  Something that catches our eye is more likely to end up in our hands.  Not necessarily "pretty."  My Holton 180 is certainly not pretty - but it intrigues me visually and I enjoy picking it up to play.

Feel in an instrument is about sensation, but feel with that mouthpiece is about physical miss match between the rim and my face. If we have choice (and we do in a big way) most players want sound and feel... as Gabe says. Feel is big factor in choice.... it just would have spoilt my original one-liner  :)

Chris Stearn
59  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: What DOES a "pro" horn bring to the table? on: Mar 12, 2017, 06:12AM
Instrument makers sell 99% of their products to people who are not professionals.... very few people play for a living.... but in order to sell to the SAS brigade (Saturdays and Sundays, in case I start confusion) they feel they have to cover their wares in hype....
What is a professional instrument ? well, by definition it is an instrument played by someone engaged in earning their living by playing it.... that can, and has, included pretty much everything from the pbone to a jewel encrusted Monette.... though the two extremes are rarely seen  Evil.
If anyone, pro or otherwise is in search of a new instrument, it is ever harder to sift through the mass of instruments available today, many of which are described as 'professional' instruments. In the old days there were far fewer makers and over time it became known which were the better makes and models to go for with particular needs in mind.
in recent times I have come across several students who have 'upgraded' at considerable cost, to instruments that serve them less well than those that they were playing on... the hype wins....
Bear in mind that professional players are often VERY specialised in what they do for a living and choose VERY specialised equipment to suit that work. Most non professional players are looking for (or should be looking for) an instrument that is flexible and suited to the settings that they work in.... which will ALWAYS be somewhat different to professional settings....

Chris Stearn
60  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Greenhoe at ATW on: Mar 11, 2017, 10:15AM
Looks mean nothing....sound means everything.

Chris Stearn.
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