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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Outlook Email issue on: Jun 24, 2017, 12:57PM
What version of outlook? What does the message say?
2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: King 4F slide on a King 3F on: Jun 23, 2017, 08:05PM
Ah one of the elliptical ones. Those are probably about as wide as the 4b but I've never actually seen one in person.

There is a fairly common crook that people put on 500 and 508 slides that is the same width as a Bach 42, which are quite wide, but with an appropriate inner bore. I think forum memver dj Kennedy has some for sale. If you wanted something wider, that would be the way to go. They're called "wide glide".
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: King 4F slide on a King 3F on: Jun 23, 2017, 03:03PM
Hi Matt
I am playing a 3b and have replaced the crook in the slide with a wider one.  This allows me more neck room which I need to "square up" with the mouthpiece.  This setup is working fine but I was just wondering if the 4b slide would fit. 
Is the 3b and 3b+ slides the same width?
I 'm glad that you mentioned the 3b+.  I had forgot about it.

Did you put a wide glide on it? Or some other manufacturers crook?

Trombones can sometimes be interchangeable but typically from similar sizes. 3b and 4b are really quite different so even if you put a 4b crook on your 3b somehow... You probably wouldn't have a satisfactory result.
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: King 4F slide on a King 3F on: Jun 23, 2017, 01:12PM
The tenons on the kings are basically all different when it comes to bore size with a few exceptions.  The 3b is a 508 and the 4b is a 547 so that would be a pretty extreme difference.  I would imagine that even if you managed to jury rig the two of them together youd be rather flat! 

What are you trying to accomplish? The 3B+ is a 525 bore and is pretty well regarded as being a good commercial medium bore horn.
5  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: Fake Edwards Bass Bones on: Jun 22, 2017, 06:03PM
Hard to tell with quality of pictures. I've seen a few dependent rotor Edwards that look similar though. Fwiw.
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: What's better than a Yamaha Custom Alto with a D valve? on: Jun 22, 2017, 02:21PM
Oh haha. Right over my head!

7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: What's better than a Yamaha Custom Alto with a D valve? on: Jun 22, 2017, 11:49AM
I think this one actually is Bb.  I played one that looks really similar to that at Dillon a few years ago... may well have been the same one actually. The tubing is just wrapped really tight in the back. It basically looped around twice before going to the bend you can actually see here.

 I did not like it as much as the Conn 36H I had for awhile even before I had the pipe pulled on it... but the Yamaha is pretty small so it may well have just not been my cup of tea. The Bb side seemed to play quite differently than the Eb side. Could also be because the rotor is so far back. If I were doing something custom like that I'd definitely look into just eliminating the bell side tuning mechanism even if I didn't have a slide tuning method either.  That said, it clearly works for someone!
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Attempting to determine value, Yamaha YSL 682 on: Jun 22, 2017, 11:11AM
Yamaha horns are typically priced similarly to other horns within their type.  A stock, "professional" large bore tenor with F attachment can fetch anywhere from $750-$2300ish depending on condition.  If yours has the Bousfield rotor it might go slightly towards the higher end just out of rarity.  But memory serving the 682 is fairly heavy as that was in vogue in the 90s when it was made.  That isn't quite as popular today as it was then.  If I were selling the horn, I'd probably tentatively list at $1650. You could also put the horn on consignment somewhere. Brassark and Dillons have both sold horns for me and were good at helping to determine a good price that was able to sell in the timeframe I wanted.  They are also good places to check used prices, even if they don't have your specific horn.
9  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Tuba and bass trom are not interchangeable on: Jun 21, 2017, 06:32AM
Just as in real estate, where the most important factors are: location, location, location... the most important factors for when you can use bass instead of or in addition to tuba are: context, context, context.  Sometimes it works. Sometimes you have no other choice. Sometimes it doesn't work.  Every scenario basically falls into one of those three buckets.

10  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Slide technique practice out of facetime? on: Jun 20, 2017, 06:32AM
Slide positions - yes.  Look at a note and recall what position it is. You won't get the benefit of tactile feeling though.  This is where aural theory training comes into play though.  When I sing, I visualize the position of the note. I actually have a much more difficult time singing if I'm not doing that, given that at this point I've played the trombone for more than 50% of my life.

So put another way, I'd say the answer to your question is "perhaps", but working on aural theory skills instead of slide technique would be a better use of time depending on the relative level of your existing skills.
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Replace Rotor on a Vintage Conn 88H? on: Jun 19, 2017, 06:02PM
Linkage would definition rely be cheaper. Rolling dents pretty cheap too. Probably wouldn't be worth it but linkage and dent rolling probably are.  Another option for comfort would be the various ergonomic devices. The instrument innovation one might work. You may also like the neotech. It's also a lot cheaper. Finally, installing a ring under the mouthpiece receiver for your index finger was popular on horns that have that configuration. I really like the index finger ring on my duo Gravis.
12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Replace Rotor on a Vintage Conn 88H? on: Jun 19, 2017, 11:37AM
Thanks guys. Is there someone in the Baltimore, MD area noted for this kind of mod; either linkage or rotor replacement?


Albert Houde w/ Baltimore Brass did a similar conversion for me about four years ago. I'm not sure if he still works for them or not but they should have someone there who can take care of it.  
13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Replace Rotor on a Vintage Conn 88H? on: Jun 19, 2017, 10:37AM
No need to replace the whole rotor, although its not too difficult an operation for an experienced tech.  Lots of threads here on replacing with Rotaxes and other after market rotors.  That was one of the big things Greenhoe did was adding their rotor to existing instruments, of which the Conn 88 was one of the most popular (the other horn they did a lot of conversions on was the Bach 42). So you aren't in uncharted territory by any means.

Check out this google search for more reading on converting to a miniball or other type of linkage before worrying about replacing the rotor!

You might have to ship your instrument away to someone who is more confident about doing it though.  
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Flugabone help on: Jun 19, 2017, 10:20AM
he'd had some tuning levers added to the first and third valve slide.

Also a good idea
15  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Flugabone help on: Jun 19, 2017, 09:35AM
IMO flugabone is very mouthpiece-dependent. I use a deeper cup trombone mouthpiece with mine and it sounds lovely at all dynamics, but if I use a more standard or shallow piece it's comically blatty. Mine sits next to me at my desk so I always have a brass instrument to grab and play at all times, and since it's so compact it works great for that. It's small enough that with the flare poking out it fits in my flugelhorn bag!

I agree, deeper pieces seem to work better on mine. I haven't used in mine in awhile... its on comission at Dillon but I'm tempted top pull it and keep it. I think if I were to swap out the receiver for a large shank receiver that would probably bring it closer to how I'd like it to feel but I have other projects I'd rather focus on at the moment...
16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Flugabone help on: Jun 19, 2017, 03:32AM
I used mine as a travel horn snceits so compact. One of the bands I'm in had me play it for solos sometimes. There's not much utility beyond that but it's a cool thing to have for sure!
17  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: Pickett Bass Trombone mouthpieces and DE parts on: Jun 18, 2017, 12:13PM
I'm trying to post a pic here, but the forum is not letting me. Hope to have this resolved soon.

Unfortunately, it's a limitation of the site. I'm working on a workaround, but it won't be finished for a few weeks probably with my work schedule. For the time being, a lot of people use Google drive or Dropbox. Both are free services but do take a little time to setup
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Value on Kruspe Trombone? on: Jun 18, 2017, 04:07AM
Really? A 100-years old rare trombone of a famous maker, and the original case doesn't matter?

Depends on buyer. Especially if it fits in a modern case. Someone interested in it as a historical piece to add to a collection  may well be. But they probably would also not be the type to not buy it if it wasn't included.

The $250 offer probably wasn't unfair if you want to get it sold fast. Otherwise you'll probably have to be a little patient with finding a buyer who both 1) really wants this model 2) has the amount of money you're asking
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: medium bore question/information on: Jun 18, 2017, 03:59AM
The rim suggestion is good. I found that Doug's xt 104n works really well for me as small as alto trombone though large bore tenor. When you don't switch rims it's a lot easier - at least for me - to switch between the various horns I play.

Nor.ally I'd suggest that the large shank medium bore does play differently than one with small shank receiver I like the sound although I don't own one at the moment. But it seems like you want something for commercial stuff so the small shank would probably work better. An Xt e , E4 underpart with the same rim would probably give closer to the type of sound you'd expect in that type of setting even if it takes a little getting used to. Or a small bore like a 3b with an XT C+, C3 underpart.
20  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Does a 1.01 rim take away from a good .500 to .508 horn on: Jun 14, 2017, 03:34AM
What shanks are you using?  They make a surprisingly big difference, at least to my perception.  The "2" works better for me on 500 bore horns than on 508 horns. 

I can echo Doug's recommendation about the smaller series with same rim. He made an ST104N for me that I like for that application. I don't have quite as much endurance or flexibility on it as I do the XT104N which I'm used to, but for some gigs the sound I get does seem to have a hint more of a traditional 'small bore sound' (if there is such a thing!)
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