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1  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Jun 22, 2017, 03:10PM
Are there meds that raise your intelligence, to normal or near normal levels? If so, would the people who need them be smart enough to know it?

Not according to the Dunning-Kruger effect...
2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Silver Polish Differences? on: Jun 07, 2017, 03:16PM
Can you get Goddard's in the states?  The Queen uses it, allegedly.

The Queen has a house full of stuff made from solid silver.  The methods she uses might result in accelerated wear of silver plate.

This site has a good overview of types of polish and where they should be used.
3  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: what 'key' is the trombone in? on: May 15, 2017, 04:08PM
With the technology available to music publishers today, it would cost them almost zero to include:
 - in concert band and orchestral arrangements, Bb treble clef trombone parts and tuba parts
 - in brass band arrangements, concert-pitch bass clef parts for trombone and tuba

This would enable ensembles to recruit players from a much bigger pool as there are many capable players out there who can only read one clef.

It could be argued that players of these instruments should be able to read multiple clefs, and many do, but for community groups which struggle to find players (includes 95%+ of brass bands) this would make a big difference.

4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Budget alternatives of King 2B on: May 02, 2017, 04:54PM
There are a coupe of King Tempos on Ebay.  Go to ebay and search: King Tempo trombone nickel

some perspectives on the Tempo here...
5  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Trends in Trombone Sizes on: Apr 30, 2017, 08:02PM
11 pages here to get you started...

6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Worn mouthpiece receiver on Besson 944 or faulty venturi??? on: Apr 30, 2017, 07:37PM
You won't be able to see "evidence" of a leadpipe by looking down the receiver. If you take off the outer slide and look into the end of the inner tube while holding it towards a light source, you should be able to see the edge of the leadpipe. I doubt if the leadpipe is missing; probably just worn.
I have a BE-944R and I can see the downstream end of the leadpipe as described. The end of the leadpipe is about 300mm from the mouthpiece receiver.
The mouthpiece receiver is part of the cork barrel.
The upstream end of the leadpipe is somewhere inside the cork barrel, but I can't see where.

There is no visible taper in the leadpipe - I suspect that the venturi is large relative to the bore of the inner.

It's interesting that the supplied mouthpiece was a 4AL which is similar in size to a 3G. After frustration with a Faxx 4G I'm now playing a Bach 3G which gives me overall better results (more controllable timbre and volume, more stable low range, less double buzz) although the sound is a little duller than I would like in the upper register.  I read in an old thread that Brett Baker played and endorsed the BE-944 but it used to go back to the factory for tweaking. I would be interested in knowing what modifications it had.

7  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / European Brass Band Championships - Livestream on: Apr 27, 2017, 02:24PM
The European Brass Band Championships will be livestreamed this weekend from Belgium.
There is a cost for viewing (AU$15.00), but it's guaranteed to last longer than a boxing match.

Here's the schedule:
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Development of an Ergonomic Euphonium on: Apr 25, 2017, 03:28PM
I've watched some high-end euphonium players and now that they have a trigger on the main tuning slide, they seem to use it to adjust the tuning on almost every note.


I guess they're too stubborn to admit defeat and play a trombone (or superbone) instead.  Evil

9  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / Re: New Zealand Brass Band Championships - Livestreamed on: Apr 20, 2017, 05:55PM
Hi Bruce
No - I watching from my work desktop at the moment.
The group I play in isn't serious enough to travel to the national contest. One day when I have more time I might do it more seriously.

10  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / Re: New Zealand Brass Band Championships - Livestreamed on: Apr 20, 2017, 01:59PM
B Grade test is on now for next 3 hours
11  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / New Zealand Brass Band Championships - Livestreamed on: Apr 18, 2017, 04:04PM
Various events from the NZ Band Champs will be livestreamed by the irrepressible media juggernaut www.brassbanned.com , starting tonight (Wednesday) at 7:00pm (NZ Time) with the Invitational Slow Melody.

Here's  their streaming page

Here's the website for the champs
With any luck they will publish a schedule for the band events (not there yet).  Brassbanned will probably publish a schedule on their site first anyway.

Event Times (all New Zealand time)
Champion of Champions event for soloists:  Thurs 7:00pm (?)

Band events:
Grade   Test event   Own choice event
A (8 bands)   Fri 5:00pm to 9:30pm   Sat 5:00pm to 9:30pm
B (9 bands)   Fri 8:30am to 1:20pm   Sat 9:00am to 1:00pm
C (6 bands)   Fri 3:30pm to 5:30pm   Sat 1:30pm to 3:30pm
D (2 bands)      Sat 9:50am to 11:20am
Youth (1 band)       Fri 3:00pm to 3:30pm

"Champion Brass" concert, Sunday 2:00pm

These events won't be available later on Youtube as the music publishers are still trying to get their head around the internet.
12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Bach 36G vs Yamaha YSL-630? on: Apr 14, 2017, 04:41PM
If you want a mix of resale, character and collectability, check out the  1964 mt vernon 36b on www.jlandressbrass.com. .
At $3k I'm guessing it would be a better investment that the new one at $2.6k.

13  Creation and Performance / The Business of Music / Re: deduct hearing aids on taxes on: Mar 26, 2017, 01:03PM
Don't make too much of a fuss - the tax policy wonks might feel for the need to impose a tax on instruments based on decibel output  :-)
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: If you had $750 to spend... on: Feb 26, 2017, 11:33AM
I'd get my 3B+/F slide aligned and the whole thing replated. 
(It's currently silver-plated but dull and doesn't hold a shine. Tarnished silver doesn't get the same cudos as brass with patina.)
15  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / Re: More YouTube Trombonists on: Jan 24, 2017, 01:20PM
Paganini Variations - All of the parts!

I imagine this was quite an exercise to put together.

Dale is a trombone student so the trombone parts are well played.


There is some other good stuff on his Youtube channel

16  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Largest community orchestra in the nation?? on: Jan 10, 2017, 03:05PM
There's a brass band near me where they have capped the number of players at 50, and people who go to work during the day can't belong.

17  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Less resistance on: Nov 30, 2016, 05:17PM
I haven't seen an M5.1 but it looks comparable to a Bach 5G which is still near the small end of the spectrum for large bore trombones. 
I'm not discounting any of the recommendations to seek advice, but maybe you are suited to a bigger mouthpiece ?

(My own experience so far has been to get progressively more comfortable with my sound, range and dynamics moving from 5G to 4G to 3G.)

18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: King 4bf v Yamaha YSL356g on: Nov 24, 2016, 11:05AM
It looks like it's been around the block a few times.  625 seems a bit high for the visual condition. If cosmetics don't matter to you then these are built very solidly so unless its had serious abuse should play well. Check the inner slide for wear on the stockings though.

The "patina" bits are where the lacquer has worn off. The shinier bits are the original King slightly-orange coloured lacquer.  If you would like to remove and re-apply the lacquer, that King lacquer is REALLY hard to remove. The bell section could be done in a few hours (chemicals may help but a lot of elbow grease will probably still be needed). It would take a LOT of perseverance and time to strip the valve section.

For comparison, check out these sites:

To me it seems that for 1970s to 1990s horns, the price paid for a King 4B/F is typically 60% to 80% that of a Bach 42B or Conn 88H in similar condition.
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Trombones that sound like euphoniums on: Nov 17, 2016, 05:23PM
Some spectral analysis might shed some light on this.

Anyone got a plot for a euphonium ?

Anyone got a plot for a trombone with the bell pointing close to vertical ?

Another factor is that players in some ensembles are encouraged to blend with the euphoniums more often than they are asked to contrast with them. This could be habit-shaping.
20  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: New size mouthpiece for high school on: Nov 17, 2016, 03:08PM
This post comes to mind...

... I took a few masterclasses with the other Canadian tenor trombonist who designs for Yamaha -- ALAIN TRUDEL.

Alain was asked point blank if we should buy HIS mouthpiece. Here is his advice.
-Buy a Bach 6 1/2AL and practice until the plating comes off of the Bach mouthpiece, and then decide FOR YOURSELF if HIS mouthpice is for you.
-Practice as much as you can, and when you're sick of practicing-- then practice some more.
-Play until you're sick of playing-- and then play some more.
-Play until you're exhausted, and then play some more.

And do that EVERY day, until the plating comes off of the Bach 6 1/2AL.
THEN pick a mouthpiece.

DISCLAIMER: Of course, its been a while since Alain Trudel and Pete Sullivan played in high school or college. Things may have changed in a couple of decades. Maybe young tenor trombonists do not have to practice a lot now--- if they find the right mouthpiece agreed upon by their peers.
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