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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: instruments as investments on: Nov 19, 2014, 10:14AM
Anyone know what the most expensive trombones are.

Thein stuff is up there. Here's their contra...
http://www.thein-brass.com/index_du.php
2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: instruments as investments on: Nov 16, 2014, 09:01AM
Quote from: SilverBone on Today at 04:39 AM

[I agree with the sentiment that trombones are terrible investments.  I buy bones that give me pleasure to own.

OTOH, trombones I bought 50 years ago are now worth more than I paid for them.  I don't know if the increase outpaced inflation.]



Back in 1964 I was pricing trombones and was interested in a King 4B or a Conn 88H (top of the line pro horns of the day).  List price was $495 and street price was just under $300.  Back then a car cost between $1600 and $2000.

An 88H bought for $495 in 1964 would need to be worth $3,800 now just to hold its value.
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: How many trombones do you need- a scientific study on: Nov 09, 2014, 01:19AM
The key is to have way more than you need (or that she can count) BEFORE you get married.

The same rule applies to motorcycles.
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: King 29 on: Oct 30, 2014, 12:02PM
According to a King brochure(early 1970s) the 29 was standard issue with the 4B and 5B (and maybe 6b as well).  I've tried one on the 4B and 5B. It seems a better match for the 5B.  On the 4b it made the sound a little dull and articulations less clear than a 4G-ish mouthpiece.

Also, the shank taper is similar to a normal large shank but not quite the same.

If you have a 4B or 5B it's worth a try.  If you play something else with a "normal" taper you're probably better off looking at other mouthpieces around the 4g - 5g continuum.

Dave
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Idea to customize horn, where do you go to get it built/tested? on: Sep 25, 2014, 04:52PM
Check out www.robbstewart.com  and click on "other projects" and "mechanics" on the left .
It will give you some idea of what oddball stuff is possible.
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Will playing trumpet strengthen the UR on: Sep 07, 2014, 03:40PM
I have a tendency to use too much pressure  with small mouthpieces  and would need to be careful that this didn't become a habit transferred to trombone technique .
I would be interested in trying one of those Wycliffe / chansons mouthpieces. Could be great on 2nd/ 3rd cornet parts.
7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: How important is mouthpiece plating? on: Sep 02, 2014, 02:23PM
Gold has a lower coefficient of friction than silver, so presumably facilitates easier embouchure  adjustments.
Plenty of great players using silver though.  :/
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: How do we really know what mouthpiece is the right one? on: Sep 02, 2014, 01:08AM
That is the advice that Jimmy Knepper gave me years ago..."Play the smallest m'pce that lets you play a good-sounding low E."

I'm trying to reconcile with this quote from Jay Friedman ( http://www.jayfriedman.net/articles/game_of_opposites_2 )
Quote
"Lately I've been thinking about the eternal questions of equipment and the concept of using them. I've finally come to this conclusion; play the biggest horn and mouthpiece you can, and then play it as clear and small as you can. By small I don't mean pinched. I mean pure, lively, focused and again, clear. We want the player to sound big in size and the instrument to sound small and facile. The big mistake is using a large type horn and playing it dull and unfocused, which is the most common type of sound I hear today. How do we do that? It has to do with the use of the airstream. Everyone knows to use more air, but how? Think of the airstream as a garden hose: when there is no nozzle on the end, the water comes out thick and doesn't go far. When a nozzle is attached the stream of water narrows and picks up speed, traveling farther. That's what I mean when I say play a big horn small and clear. Since the modern instrument is large in size compared to trombon es in previous centuries, it is never a problem to make a big sound: the problem to avoid is making a dead sound. "

Both arguments seem to have merit. Interesting that they both play(ed) a Bach 42 of sorts, albeit on different types of gig.
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: still running XP on this one on: Aug 21, 2014, 08:44PM
+ 1 for Linux on older machines. I got my 9 yr old kid a dell d430 for school,  put Linux mint 17 on it and he thinks it's great. Not having ms office doesn't worry him as they use google docs for school. Linux with 2 MB of ram is fairly quick. He doesn't need to use command lines - the user interface is fairly similar to xp . I did a little command line work to get it set up. Installing apps from the Linux "store" is straightforward.

My laptop is vista-era but was running xp so I upgraded to windows 8 when it was released with a low special price. Had a few issues with drivers which almost resulted in me giving up and replacing the laptop. (Because of its age , the machine isn't supported by the manufacturer for win 8.) I've read that upgrading from 8 to 8.1 often results in driver issues so I'm not going to try.

A problem with windows is that the updates are so bulky. I have more confidence in Linux than windows that updates won't consume the performance of the machine.
10  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: 4th partial double buzz on: Aug 06, 2014, 09:34PM
I had a persistent double buzz issue for about a year. Advice from TTF from Doug and others almost fixed it.
What finally got rid of it was adjusting the valve alignment.
... Yep, should have done that sooner.  :/
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Corp. 42 Mods on: Jul 30, 2014, 06:54PM
There's plenty to start with in this old thread.

quote author=furry link=topic=59702.msg852899#msg852899 date=1324001521

Anyone put a rotax or hagmann on a 1970s 42?
12  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / Re: Live streaming - NZ brass band championships on: Jul 11, 2014, 11:19PM
A Grade own choice event on now
13  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / Re: Live streaming - NZ brass band championships on: Jul 11, 2014, 05:06PM
B grade own choice event starting now
14  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / Live streaming - NZ brass band championships on: Jul 10, 2014, 01:10AM
This is being live streamed on
www.brassbanned.com   
over the next couple of days.

Champion of champions solos are on right now. 
A grade own choice will be highlight -Saturday evening nz time.
15  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: .525 slide with 8.5 bell on: Jul 04, 2014, 05:13PM
For some clues you could research Yamaha ysl-645.
Also I think there's been forum discussion around .525 slides on an 8h or 88h bell section
16  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: What car do you have? on: Jul 03, 2014, 04:25AM
2OO4  Smart Roadster [DD]

Chris Stearn

So just how many bass trombones fit in a Smart Roadster then ?
17  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / The coolest way to get moisture out of your phone... on: Jun 24, 2014, 12:07PM

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/06/15/brass-section-rejoice-your-ideal-smartphone-accessory-has-arrived/

18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Brasso: what's so bad? on: Jun 20, 2014, 04:27PM
Bruce isn't there ammonia in brasso , which is a reason to avoid it ?

For nickel silver, mothers mag and aluminium Polish does a good job. It's abrasive so not for use every time, but good after a period of neglect.
Dave
19  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: QuinnTheFlippinEskimo at work on: May 27, 2014, 03:29AM
He also appears willing to ship offshore, which a lot of sellers don't.  It seems like he has more for sale when the US dollar is low so offshore buyers are willing to pay more in $US terms. Maybe not just buy low, sell high but also an element of forex speculation using trombones as currency.
20  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: What is the weirdest time signature you have ever seen? on: May 26, 2014, 01:55AM
Here's an example of how silly brass band test pieces can get
(Isaiah 40 by Robert Redhead, from bar 202 following on from a 4/4 section)
Tempo is  dotted = 69 at the start accelerating to minim = 138 by the end...
10/8   1 bar
6/8    1 bar
4/4    1 bar
10/8   1 bar
6/8    1 bar
10/8   2 bars
4/4    1 bar
7/8    1 bar
9/8    1 bar
4/4    1 bar
7/8    1 bar
9/8    1 bar
4/4    1 bar
7/8    2 bars
9/8    1 bar
2/2    2 bars
and back to 12/8 

To listen too its quite good as far as test pieces go, but who'd want to be a conductor?
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