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1  Practice Break / Food and Drink / Re: Cast iron, anyone? on: Oct 12, 2017, 01:09PM
There's some orthodoxy in there that I'm not sure holds up in the modern world.

Maybe I should have qualified it in that this is how I've kept a cheap (~25% of the cost of a Le Creuset) pan working for 12 + years so far.
2  Practice Break / Food and Drink / Re: Cast iron, anyone? on: Oct 12, 2017, 12:49PM
But try as I may, I cannot seem to season these things effectively. 

My guidelines on cast iron care to maintain a non-stick surface on a cast iron pan:
 - Don't use dishwash liquid to clean it - just clean hot water. (Use dishwash liquid on the outside if you need to.)
 - If something is burnt / stuck onto the surface, warm up the pan and maybe add some oil to loosen / soften it before scraping it off.
 - Use utensils with a sharp, straight stainless steel edge to prevent stuff from sticking (the one I use is actually a BBQ tool).
 - Minimise cooking food where water accumulates in the bottom of the pan. Cast iron pans should be used for cooking which sizzles - not simmers.  If you need to simmer something use a pan made from a different material.
 - After washing and drying, smear a thin layer of spray-on canola oil over the cooking surface

Happy cooking.
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: "Easy" instruments on: Oct 06, 2017, 11:41PM
I think the ocarina is one of the easiest instruments to get a terrible sound out of, and quite difficult to get a good sound.
We have one somewhere in the house but it's been hidden to stop children from playing it.
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Laptop changed on: Oct 06, 2017, 02:17PM
For Windows 10 with the Creators update:
Use windows search to find Control Panel
Open the "Sound" utility
On the Playback tab, select the default speakers and press the Properties button.
Select the Enhancements tab and check "Disable all enhancements" (I think this is available only in the Pro version. For the home version just uncheck any enhancements which are checked).  Press Apply if it is available, then press OK.
Back at the Sound utility, press Apply if it's available, then OK.
Restart the computer.

If that doesn't work, right click on the sound icon (bottom right of the screen) and select Troubleshoot.

I suspect that the creators update or some subsequent update messed with the settings.
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Difference between Antonine Courtois 420 models? on: Oct 05, 2017, 12:42PM
These old threads mention the Challenger II...


6  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: Big horn for a small student? on: Oct 02, 2017, 03:12PM
I have her using the Yamaha 48 mouthpiece that came with her horn; roughly the equivalent of a 6.5AL, I think?

My guess is that, at least in part, it's the 6 1/2 AL mouthpiece. The larger throat forces her to use more air. I don't know anything about the Yamaha 48 mouthpiece.

On paper the Yamaha 48 and 6-1/2AL look similar (cup diameter, throat size etc.), however the Yamaha feels like it has a much smaller cup diameter, and I feels almost unplayable to me, whereas a 6-1/2AL is fine.

Before deciding to go large bore, it would be worthwhile trying a small shank 6-1/2AL in the 200AD.

7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Long term storage of the trombone on: Sep 24, 2017, 12:57PM
I've wondered whether a cause of stinky cases is anaerobic conditions developing when a case is left closed for a long time and is largely airtight.

Another cause might be condensation forming on the brass when there are extreme temperature changes.

To prevent this from occurring, it might be best to leave the case slightly open, and leave it in a warm, well ventilated room.

Any thoughts on this ? 
8  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: Benge 190F and 175F on: Sep 17, 2017, 01:57PM
PM sent
9  Creation and Performance / Music, Concerts and Recordings / Re: Trains and Bones on: Sep 15, 2017, 09:20PM
There is a brass band arrangement of "Ticket to ride" which starts with hissing (steam) and train whistle sounds (muted cornets).  Google ticket to ride brass band and you will find various YouTube versions.
10  Creation and Performance / The Business of Music / Re: Planning and distribution for modular bands?? on: Sep 11, 2017, 08:18PM
I use teamer.net to notify players for rehearsals and gigs.  It is easy for the players to accept or decline a notification of an event (using an app on phone / tablet makes it easier)
You would need to set up each time slot as a separate event and manually pick which of the players you want for each event, but the data comes back in a tidy, reliable and consistent format. You can set the system up to automatically send reminders. The app effectively gives each player a calendar of events complete with location map.

This week I had to plan a series of section rehearsals and extra band rehearsals for an amateur group. Lots of people have other activities on at potentially conflicting times so I set up 11 dummy events in time slots that worked for our venue and built the programme based on everybody's availability.

What this system avoids is the need for players to get on a computer, check their emails, maybe open a spreadsheet etc.

Good luck
11  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Trombone - Bb treble or C Bass?? on: Sep 10, 2017, 03:21PM
So now there's a big debate about whether eupho and trombonists should be encouraged (forced) to learn both clefs, or if concert bands should be expected to include "world parts" which include Bb eupho.

I think the debate should be more around whether music publishers (band music and orchestral music) should include trombone, tuba and euphonium parts in all commonly-read clefs. With computer-based software notation, I imagine producing a part in a different clef should only require a click or two so the marginal cost of doing this is close to zero.

This would enable all groups to draw from a larger pool of players.


12  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Double buzz - please help on: Sep 02, 2017, 01:40PM
I had a recurring double buzz on the middle Bb partial (playing a large bore with a 4g).  Switched to a 3G and it didn't occur, although lost a bit in richness of sound and top end range, and needs more air. 8 months later, tried the 4g again and there's no sign of the double buzz.
I'm guessing that the 3G forced me to change something in my embouchure to make the top and bottom more balanced. It's easy to overthink double buzzing so I'll leave my explanation at that.

Worked for me. Ymmv
13  Creation and Performance / The Business of Music / Re: Applying for Patent? on: Aug 26, 2017, 06:34PM
Being able to afford applying for a patent is one thing. To derive the expected benefits, you also need to be able to afford to defend it,mpossibly in multiple countries.
Based on people I've met, there seem to be a lot of patent attorneys who do well for themselves and a lot of inventors who have been misguided in going for patents and lost their shirt.
The few who do well out of patents tend to be those who have a business plan from the start -not  just an idea.
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: 6.5a (small shank) variations on: Aug 13, 2017, 07:07PM
I've noticed that mouthpiece express list the following as small shank mouthpieces, but I've never any seen them discussed on TTF.
- Bach 5
- Bach 5G
- Bach 4
- Bach 4C
- Bach 3

I'm curious how any of them would work on a King 3B+ (0.525 bore). I'm guessing there's a point past which the mouthpiece is too big for the horn and starts screwing up the tuning and partials.

Any experience of these ?
15  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Taxing trumpet playing is killing my Trombone chops.... on: Aug 13, 2017, 03:56PM
You're using the same muscles on both instruments

Based on personal (amateur) impressions and not having any particular expertise in anatomy or embouchure types (but a reasonable grasp of engineering)...

On trumpet you use a lot of muscles near the centre of the mouth to create a firm embouchure by pressing the lips vertically together, pretty much across the whole range of the instrument.

On trombone, for the lower to mid range the muscles near the centre of the embouchure are mainly relaxed and used as a flexible vibrating element, with the muscles outside the mouthpiece playing a major role in setting the tension in the lips (and hence the frequency of vibration i.e. pitch).

Regarding the original question, I think trumpet playing creates more highly developed muscles in the centre of the mouth, which may be an impediment to trombone playing as the developed muscles may be less flexible.

(Note: In an earlier life I played cornet for about 20 years. I struggle with low register on trombone - large bore with a 3G mouthpiece.  Having been working on building a trombone embouchure for about 6 years, my cornet playing now REALLY sucks.)



16  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Aug 10, 2017, 01:33PM
Oh - I see some work's already been done on a musical...
17  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Aug 10, 2017, 12:42PM
It might work as a rock musical.  Meat Loaf for the lead role ?

Either way I think Steve Carell would do a good Sean Spicer
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Just curious: Tell me about Tubas? on: Aug 08, 2017, 04:59PM
Tubas - Now available in plastic..  https://www.musik-produktiv.co.uk/cool-wind-tuba-black.html

Also, believe it or not, there is a website where hundreds of people have in depth discussions about tubas:  http://forums.chisham.com/
19  Practice Break / Cool Web Sites / Re: Trombone apps on: Aug 03, 2017, 11:03AM
From Zoom Corporation, and free
20  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: How to get rid of the mildew odor? on: Aug 02, 2017, 08:19PM
On a King coffin type case I re-lined I took all the lining out and it still smelled bad - the smell was coming from the plywood.  Tried deodorisers, vanilla, charcoal , sunlight.  It still smelled.

Used some Resene Timberlock preserver/conditioner paint (sold for treating old, weathered timber weatherboards prior to painting) on the exposed plywood which worked a treat. The Timberlock  itself has its own odor which takes a few days / weeks to dissipate but after that, there is no trace of the original smell.
Here's a link to the label...

I'm not sure what the equivalent product would be in other parts of the world, but here's the ingredient list...
CONTAINS: Xylene 110-125 gms/L, Toluene 40 gms/L, dibutyl phthalate 15-20 gms/L, 3-iodo-2-propynyl butyl carbamate <5 gms/L, 2-(thiocyanomethylthio) benzothiazole <2gms/L, methylene  bisthiocyanate <2gms/L, (2-benzothiazoylthio) butanedoic acid <2gms/L.

After this I'm convinced that the only good treatment for a smelly case is to rip out the existing lining and treat the plywood. 

Good luck

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