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1  Practice Break / Polls / Re: 3rd Partial F on: May 17, 2016, 04:12PM
It is a good idea to have the slide out a bit for the Bb so you can tune to the surrounding environment. 

This is the approach I subscribe to.  In a brass band I play in the conductor (a baritone horn player) sometimes walks around with a tuner and asks me to play a note by myself - usually a Bb but sometimes notes in other positions. My first position is about a thumb-width off the bumper but he presumes it's against the bumpers. The pitch I produce is a result of the thumb-width and whatever pitch is in my head. Sometimes I pretend to move my tuning slide to align myself better with the tuner, knowing that it works fine when playing with the band..

I've been wondering lately if I should just tell him about the thumb width and that he should just trust trombones to play in tune with what's around them. The risk is that some (non-trombonists) might consider this "unorthodox" approach to be idiocy.

Dave





2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Wessex new PBF555 Super Tenor Trombone on: May 16, 2016, 01:38PM
Looks like they are going after the Bach 45 or King 5B market.

I think the 5B market peaked sometime around 1970, and the 45 market never came to much.
(Not to say that they're bad things - just specialized and with limited demand.)
In marketing terms, this model looks like an experiment.
3  Practice Break / Cool Web Sites / Re: Trombone apps on: May 02, 2016, 12:00PM
Cleartune (tuner)
Tempo (metronome)
Loopy - looping software more for a tablet than a phone
4  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: What to do in London UK? on: May 02, 2016, 10:59AM
Mind the gap.
5  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / Re: More YouTube Trombonists on: Apr 10, 2016, 01:38PM
This is from the Aucktet Trombone day held in the weekend. It included the premiere performance of "Shake City" for massed brass choir, composed by bass trombonist Pablo Ruiz Henao.  Pablo can be seen playing contrabass trombone.

The day was organised by Aucktet (as in Auckland-octet). It was a great opportunity for students to mix and play with pro players.

http://youtu.be/JrdIfdDC_kE


(I'm one of the masses in the choir. You can mainly see the top of my head.)
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Recovery Drive for Win 10 - how big? on: Feb 04, 2016, 10:01AM
it may depend what software is loaded. For a machine with office, Google earth, and a few other things 16gb was too small.  Bought a 32mb for nz$20 although it had to be pink. It's going to stay in the drawer unless there's a catastrophe so the colour doesn't really matter.
7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Large Bore King on: Jan 26, 2016, 07:31PM
See this old thread...

http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=57338.5

and this one...


8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Orchestra roster management on: Dec 23, 2015, 12:57AM
I've been using a system called Teamer for over a year to organise the players for concerts and other gigs. It doesn't have the ability to designate groups which is a shortcoming. It is really good at managing which players can and can't make it.  They can see event info, location map etc on a website or a phone / tablet app. (See www.teamer.net)

There are some alternative systems available now for managing sports teams which I haven't yet investigated. It would be great to find a really good system for bands  & orchestras.

Cheers
Dave
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Bronze bells compared to yellow brass bells? on: Dec 10, 2015, 09:17AM
The "artists" page on the rath website lists the materials of each artist's instrument.  Looking at the R4 players, there is a British / brass band preference for the red end of the spectrum , whereas most US players prefer yellow.

Could probably do some analysis on the sound of the Jazz artists vs materials.

There might be a thesis opportunity around this for someone.
10  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Best medium (or small) bore triggers? on: Nov 28, 2015, 01:56PM
Don't over look the King 608f. (or 697f)
There has been one listed in the ttf classifieds lately
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Silver maintenece on: Nov 27, 2015, 12:47PM
You should try to minimise abrasion (loss of plating).
Remember that you are cleaning a very thin layer of plating -not solid silver.

There is a summary of silver cleaners here...
 http://www.hermansilver.com/silver-polish-abrasion-ratings.htm   
12  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: F trigger for a 10yr old? on: Nov 15, 2015, 01:35AM
I've got a King 608F in the classifieds. It's a medium bore (0.525") f-attachment in excellent condition. The bell brace is located in the same place at straight tenors that might make the transition a little easier.

http://tromboneforum.org/index.php/topic,88601.msg1103859.html#msg1103859

I can't believe this hasn't sold, given all the drooling that has gone on on ttf about 3b+/f.  Comparing the 607f  with my 3b+/f, they aren't too different.  I bet the 608f is even closer.
13  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: F trigger for a 10yr old? on: Nov 14, 2015, 03:58PM
Another factor is how comfortable it is to hold. I picked up a king 607f for my boy when he just turned 10 but was too heavy and hurt his hand. A year later he's bigger and stronger so not as much of an issue now.
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: What horn is this??? on: Oct 28, 2015, 01:21PM
The Supertone brand was used by Sears, Roebuck and Co.. I've got a reprint of a 1927 SR&Co catalog that lists three brands - Advance, Marceau, and Supertone, with Supertone being the highest grade. A Supertone trombone ran $17.45 in lacquer and $28.40 in "extra quality silver plate, satin finish , gold plated bell".

In 1927, Silvertone was the brand SR&Co was using on radios.
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15  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: Rugby World Cup on: Oct 18, 2015, 12:48PM
New Zealand played perfect, textbook rugby. Nothing fancy, just everything right. Great game.

Unfortunately on the other side of the world, some genius scheduled a brass band contest at the same time. Yeah, RIGHT. We were just going into the warmup room at kickoff.  Have recorded the game to watch later.
16  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / Re: MNOZIL BRASS at The University of Utah on: Oct 14, 2015, 11:06PM
Saw them about 2 years ago and the whole show was mime, apart from the music. There was a bit of innuendo, including an appearance by an inflatable doll, but would probably go over the head of a 6 year old.
Don't underestimate the volume of sound 7 guys can produce.  Some earplugs might be useful if the kid is sensitive to sound.

The show I saw was about $70 for a ticket.  $10 or $25 is a bargain.
17  Creation and Performance / Other Musicians and Ensembles / Re: Mediocrity in community bands on: Sep 30, 2015, 10:36AM
I think that "musical apathy" is the problem here, rather than mediocrity per-se. 
We were all mediocre once ( some of us still might be) and lower level bands need to tolerate this.
The problem is that with the apathy you would be less likely to get past the mediocrity.



18  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: Cricket Ashes 2015 - Doom and Gloom on: Aug 06, 2015, 11:39PM
Cricket. What's that.

I've decided to follow the netball.  The World Championships have just started and we should do well.

I'm guessing you're a rugby denier as well.
(go the All Blacks!)
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Should I replace my mouthpiece or my trombone? on: Aug 05, 2015, 04:23PM
A lot of the errors I have when playing a piece are from my lips doing something odd in the mouthpiece, like involuntary sounds and stuff like that (kind of like a voice cracking).

Sounds like what is referred to around here as a "double buzz", which can be caused by a number of different issues (search the forum for more).  It is best looked at by a teacher.  Doug is an authority on this stuff.
20  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Vowel to use and thinking of which note I play on: Aug 05, 2015, 02:56PM
Here's some recent research on the vowel / brass sound thing. 

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http://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/bitstream/10092/10656/1/12654385_4.%20HEYNE.pdf

Abstract: This paper presents some initial findings regarding the influence of First Language on playing brass instruments. Using ultra- sound imaging of the tongue, vowel production and sustained trombone notes were compared for a New Zealand English and a Tongan speaker. It is suggested that, during trombone play- ing, the tongue shapes used by the Tongan participant pattern with the back vowel /o/ while those used by the New Zealand English player pattern with the centralized KIT vowel (/9/) and schwa (/@/). It is argued that these findings provide preliminary evidence of First Language influence on brass playing.

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There are also theories I've heard that northern English accents are better suited to brass playing than those from further South.  I don't know if this has been tested scientifically. There is likely to be a bit of North South brass band rivalry influencing this.

Dave
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