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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: What leadpipes do you guys use in your TIS Bass Trombones? on: Yesterday at 11:45 AM
Thanks for the responses!

The instrument in question is a Minick J tuning crook style bass trombone that used to have a Minick C pipe in it. The pipe was damaged and needed to be replaced, I've been looking for a replacement since I bought the horn. Right now I've got a Brassark MV50B pipe in it but I feel like the pipe is a hair too tight for this horn... what I do like about the pipe is that it tames the unfocused nature of the horn.

I tried a slew of pipes at Hornguys. The Kanstul 62H pipe, Kanstul Minick C pipe and Shires #2 pipe all made the horn blow very well but I lost all the character in my sound I was getting with my Brassark pipes or any stock Bach pipes I've tried. So I'm probably going to stay away from Kanstul and Shires pipes.

jimkinkella, thank you for the response about the seamed copper! Looks like I should stick with YB. I remember trying your Greenhoe TIS bass at your place and that thing still haunts my dreams!

Bob, I'll look into picking up a MK GR pipe. I had a prototype when they first came out but it wasn't the best fit for the Holton I had at the time so my impressions of it are a bit skewed. If it works great in your Minick 62H I'll definitely have to consider picking one up! I also found the Schatz #3 and Brassark Schatz style pipes to be a good fit for TIS horns. The particular Schatz pipe I have is a hair too unfocused for the Minick bass I have ): Worked perfect in the TR185 I used to have!

Burgerbob we'll have to for sure get together sometime! You'll get a real kick out of the horn if you spend a little more time blowing on it!

Anyone one else have experience with leadpipes and TIS bass trombones?
2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / What leadpipes do you guys use in your TIS Bass Trombones? on: Jan 19, 2018, 03:15PM
Hello! I'm just putting a feeler out there!

What leadpipes do you guys use in your TIS Bass Trombones? I'm currently on the leadpipe hunt again!

I'm especially curious if any of you have spent any significant time on a Brassark BH62 pipe!

What are your opinions on Brad's seamed copper pipes in a TIS Bass?

Thanks!
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Leadpipeless Mouthpiece Confusion? on: Jan 19, 2018, 09:27AM
Ditto to what Matt K said!
4  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / "It was just overhauled by one of the best repair shops" on: Jan 18, 2018, 04:12PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/King-2B-Liberty-Trombone-MAKE-IT-YOURS-No-Reserve/312044004243?hash=item48a745a393:g:HREAAOSwLgNaWCk7

One of the best repair shops put the main bell brace on backwards Pant
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Leadpipeless Mouthpiece Confusion? on: Jan 16, 2018, 01:26PM
It probably wouldn't be too difficult for someone to fabricate a receiver tube with a threaded collar. Maybe just find a damaged leadpipe, cut it off short and ream out the receiver a bit.
Instrument Invitations makes exactly that. OP should check it out.
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Different Generations of Hammond Engraving on: Jan 16, 2018, 12:20PM
You should email Hammond directly. I'm sure he'd tell you what changes were made. I'm curious to know what he says!
7  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / Re: Low C above pedal Bb on: Jan 14, 2018, 05:23PM
Take time and go slow. It took me basically my entire undergrad to get over some chop issues I had in the Low C and Low B range.  

You'll get it, just don't rush into things. Things will be slow... start just trying to get the note to speak and hack at it everyday. Do the advice that Doug and Gabe mentioned earlier in the thread and you'll eventually get to honking out those notes!
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Bach to produce a new Friedman model on: Jan 13, 2018, 10:35PM
Yeah it sounded good. Im just trying to remember what he said it would have... he definitely said it would have the dual bore slide and also a longer bell. He seemed to think a lot of bachs had bells that are too short.... ugh I cant remember. Hopefully it actually happens though!
Hmmm don't all Bachs have the same bell length? Do you think he meant length of the bell sections? Cause you've got weird lengths in bell sections between different Bachs like as mentioned in Burgerbob's youtube videos.
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Edwards BAN slides on: Jan 13, 2018, 04:29PM
An all nickel slide will remind you of the slides on your Holtons.

The tubes on the lightweight slides are pretty thick so the slotting doesn't go completely out the window but you'll notice the slots are a little wider and the blow a little less focused verses your Holton slide which has oversleeves.

I almost bought a all nickel slide when I owned my Shires because it reminded me of my Holtons.

Note my comments are comparing a all nickel Shires slide verses a Holton slide.
10  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / Re: Low C above pedal Bb on: Jan 13, 2018, 01:02PM
hyperbolica are you thinking of the Eliezer Aharoni New Method for Bass Trombone?
11  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / Re: Low C above pedal Bb on: Jan 13, 2018, 12:10PM
There isn't enough handslide length in the handslide to play a low C in tune on a single valve horn [without lipping the low C].
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I'm going to edit this quote because it bugs me everytime it comes up.

It is possible to play a low C in tune on a single valve horn but you have to lip the note so it's in tune.
12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: School's Bass Trombone Having Tuning Issues on: Jan 12, 2018, 03:08PM
I know a French horn player who got used to playing primarily on the Bb side because his switch valve had been strung incorrectly when he was learning to play. As a young professional he was still playing the same way.
That's actually a super interesting story! I wonder if he still plays that way?
13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: School's Bass Trombone Having Tuning Issues on: Jan 12, 2018, 11:40AM
Interesting. On the video link it states that the horn just came back from the repair shop? If so that's tragic but it should be returned by the band director for a fix. But if that's true I wouldn't trust that repair shop to clean my mouthpiece.
There's always a catch-22 with school horns Evil
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Getting a red brass bell on: Jan 11, 2018, 05:08PM
A point of clarification.

Yes, the Bach 50 bells are all spun on the same mandrel, but it is NOT "the same amount of metal, just spread out to the extra flare". Both bell sizes start out at the same thickness and the same shape blank, and they are simply trimmed to a different diameter at the end of the forming.

FWIW...
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Then why are the 50BL bells always so thin?

If they are made the way you said they are then they would be the same exact thickness as a regular 50B bell, which in many of our experiences... is not the case.
15  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Bach to produce a new Friedman model on: Jan 11, 2018, 01:13PM
I guess the important thing to note about this announcement is that it means the Friedman style star bell is back in production!
16  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: Valveless Bass! on: Jan 09, 2018, 07:55PM
Look at the specs on that thing. It's basically a valveless contrabass haha. Who thought that was a good idea?
17  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Devices to Increase finger strength/speed for valved instruments on: Jan 06, 2018, 08:08PM
I noticed you said baritone... are you playing a Baritone or a non compensating Euphonium or a compensating Euphonium?

The valves on a Baritone and a non comp Euphonium are really short while the valves on a compensating horn are realllllly long, almost longer then tuba valves. The later you do need some sort of strength in your fingers, a regular non comp horn is all about speed and not so much strength.

I would take the advice Exzaclee left in his post!
18  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Rec. for Trombone lip flexibility study book on: Jan 05, 2018, 11:14PM
Hi Bob,

Thanks- that looks perfect. I see there are two editions, so the Lip Slur Melodies is probably better to get as an update?

http://www.hickeys.com/search.php?q=lip+slur+melodies

Cheers, Pete
A better way to put it is Lip Slur Studies is a method book while Lip Slur Melodies is a book of only etudes.

Personally I would buy both. There are some really helpful exercises in the method book that I really enjoy and I think are worth the price of admission.
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Types of spit valves and benefits on: Jan 04, 2018, 07:57PM
Pics of the M&W key?
20  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Bach Bass too flat on: Jan 02, 2018, 06:56PM
One more point for somebody of a more recent vintage than myself to post about-

So many Bach basses were being cut to accommodate the use of the original length Schilke mouthpieces, that eventually Schilke changed to a standard Morse taper ( Bach taper) and Bach shank length.
I like this theory too. Would explain why not many people cut the newer basses but you'll bump into horns from the 70's and 80's with cut tuning slides.
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