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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Getzen 3062 Bell on a 3047 on: Aug 04, 2015, 08:14AM
Thanks for all of the replies everyone! I know my school has a 3062 that's not in the best of repair hence my interest in trying that.  If not I will just have to keep my eyes open for the right bell at the right price (maybe the right 5B). Thanks again everyone. I'll be sure to share my creation if I end up with a cool combo.

2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Getzen 3062 Bell on a 3047 on: Aug 03, 2015, 02:00PM
I feel a little foolish for using the example I did, maybe swing charts were not the best situation to cite. I usually do just use my 3B in those situations, I have a very good low range down from false Eb chromatically down to double pedal Ab. (Although, the Rath certainly has made a few appearances too, stylistically authentic or not). I guess was just trying to justify my desire for a single valve bass with a real world application.  Evil  Regardless I was really just wondering if the 3062 bell would work if I ever happened upon a stray one for a good price. Although it sounds as if the 9.5 inch would be too big, maybe I would need a 9. Once again, thanks for the input.

3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Getzen 3062 Bell on a 3047 on: Aug 03, 2015, 12:12PM

For a while now I have been toying with the idea of getting a single valve bass for bands that don't demand both triggers and a huge a horn.  e.g. older big band books focusing on swing charts where there are sometimes only 3 trombone parts.  I was wondering if a Getzen 3062 Bell would fit on my 3047 tenor.  If it did maybe the flare would be too close to the slide, maybe it just wouldn't play correctly or be out of tune, who knows? This is really a shot in the dark, just wondering if anyone has tried it or has an idea of what the results would be. The potential to easily create a single valve bass using existing gear was too appealing to not investigate.

Thanks for your help,
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Pre Prana Monette on: May 26, 2015, 11:02AM

My band director's father is a bass trombonist of many years and he happened to be making a visit to my school last week, he brought a Pre Prana BT 2 with him for me to try.  I spend a little time on it in a free period of mine and spoke with him quite a bit about gear and what not; at the end of the conversation he simply told me to keep the mouthpiece!  :-0  I have been using it some the last week yet haven't really spent a ton of time on it (lots of tenor playing required lately).  I wanted to share my first impressions though.

I used it first in a Wind Ensemble and found that it played brighter than the G&W Chinook I usually use in that group.  It was easier to get a bigger sound on (part of this was due to the smaller size of course) yet it did feel noticeably easier to play.  To my surprise, the rim which is thin in comparison to previous preferences, was extremely comfortable and did not feel "sharp" like the Giddings sometimes does.  The comments I received from my director were that it blended better than I usually do...this was a shock based off of what I have read in this thread and elsewhere.  He described the sound as more present and somewhat bigger yet without sticking out or overpowering the section (which happens from time to time).  I personally felt as if it didn't project as much as it should have but I got different opinions from those on the other side of the bell.

I also played bass on the third set of a 3 set big band gig over the weekend (I usually play 2nd).  It was mostly dance oriented big band classics: Ain't That a Kick, Moon River, Sylvia, Lady is Tramp, How High the Moon, etc.  Once again I didn't feel like my sound was projecting enough but the bari player in front of me, a good friend who knows what I usually sound like, told me that it was a little much.  I adjusted and just focused on playing with the same air and sound concept as usual and this time I was thanked by the bari player.  I still didn't feel quite as comfortable on my end of the bell, but everyone seemed to like the results once appropriate adjustments were made. 

As usual a new mouthpiece can fix everything for 2 weeks so I will chime in with some long term results.  I will be playing only tenor for the next 3-4 weeks as I will be out of town for tenor requirements.  Hopefully I can revive this thread when I put some real time in on the piece.  I am happy with it so far, (maybe cause the price was right), and I am seriously considering looking into the BT 1 I was originally interested in at the beginning of this thread.  Thank you for all the previous input, it really has demonstrated that everyone's different in their taste.  Would love to hear some more comments, especially if you have had the same first impression.

BTW, everyone should wish a happy birthday to Miles.   :D

5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Pre Prana Monette on: May 15, 2015, 06:12PM

Once again thank you for all the replies and advice.  I was not saying everyone was void of reasoning in my earlier post; just hoping to hear more.  I found one to try next week and will post opinions here afterward.


6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Pre Prana Monette on: May 10, 2015, 08:08PM

To begin with I appreciate all of your replies.  I was hoping this wasn't going to turn into another typical Monette thread, i.e. a thread to tell one that they are overrated and not worth the money with little reason as to why.  If you have a complaint can you tell me why specifically it was too much money?  To further this though, maybe I could have been more specific as to what I wanted to know.  I currently use a Rath 1.5 W or 1.25 W for commercial and jazz type playing. The wider rim is comfortable for me in this type of playing and I love the sound.  I am looking for a bigger piece that gives a darker and thicker sound yet still retains a comfortable shape. I have been Using A Giddings and Webster Chinook for this, the sound is great but is uncomfortable to play.  Back to the Monette, this is NOT a 300 dollar mouthpiece and I am looking at a PRE Prana which can't be bought new.  Can anyone give their opinion about playing a Monette that exclusively pertains to pre prana pieces?  Finally, I do not need a lecture that explains I'm the biggest variable in sounding good, take my word for it, I know.  I am putting in the time, I'm just looking for the right tool for a specific need.  Thanks again guys!

7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Pre Prana Monette on: May 08, 2015, 04:33PM
I am looking at a Pre Prana Monette BT-1 bass bone piece right now.  I was hoping someone could offer any insight as to the differences between this and the newer prana pieces.  I have heard from a friend that own lots of Monette trumpet gear that the pre prana pieces are more conventional and can be played by a wider variety of players.  If anyone knows spec differences or has played both I would appreciate the input.

8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: '48 King 2b on: Mar 25, 2015, 06:45AM
I am the seller of that horn.  It is also on the classifieds here.  Shoot me a message.
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Eastman case for Jazz Trombone? on: Aug 09, 2014, 11:28AM
I use my Eastman primarily for 2B's and 3B's.  It fits snug for both horns with enough open space to have an accessory bag (The type you would find in a Reunion Blues Bag.  The slide doesn't move around and stays in place as it should.  I have put large bores with attachments in it, yet IMHO I think the design functions better with a small horn.  I got mine from Horn Guys for around $200 shipped if I remember correctly.
10  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Olds Opera mouthpiece on: Aug 07, 2014, 01:19PM
As always when it comes to Olds, JohnL has the best info,  Thanks John. My time capsule 0-25 also came with an Olds 15.
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Has anyone ever heard of or have an accent brand trombone? on: Feb 17, 2014, 12:59PM
My previous school owned a bunch of their tenors.  Hard to produce a solid core and the slides were pretty flimsy.  It felt like it would break it my hands.  IMHO there are much better Chinese alternatives such as those previously mentioned.  Just my opinion.

12  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / Re: JEN Conference 2014 on: Jan 06, 2014, 02:34PM
Also if anybody has any opinions on what clinics/seminars to attend please chime in!
13  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / JEN Conference 2014 on: Jan 06, 2014, 02:33PM

This will be my first year attending JEN; I will be playing on the night show on Thursday January 9th with the Crescent Super Band with Randy Brecker and Ed Calle.  (http://jazzednet.org/1/en/2014EveningConcerts).  I would love to say hello to any forum members attending and play with some of you at the jam sessions. 

Just wondering who's going,
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Has anyone seen this particular logo stamped on a bell before? on: Aug 23, 2013, 07:11PM
I have seen that stamp before; when I bought a Holton French style case for $7 at Pawn Shop the trombone that came with it had a similar stamp but it is not the same horn.  It was not worth fixing, so I made it my lawn ornament.
15  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: Stunning SS 2B valve bone on: Aug 02, 2013, 08:48PM
oooo baby!  :D
16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: small horns on: Jul 29, 2013, 09:40PM
I could be mistaken but I thought a jiggs was a straight .500.
Don't forget about the K&H Bart van Lier (.480/.488, .500, or .512 with or without F attachment (new alternative to a 3BF, eh?).

Also the Kanstul 750, 1550, aforementioned 1555, 1602-B, and 1606 (Williams 6 copy). All .500.

Holton 66 Galaxy. (.485/.500)

Yamaha 897Z (891Z and 697Z have already been mentioned). .484/.490. A Yamaha YSL-354 can be a great horn. (.500)

Conn 100H. (.500)

Getzen 1050 (.508), 3508R (.500/.508).

2B Jiggs. (.491)

A plethora of student models, all .500.

pBone. :-P
17  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: NEW (Old) BENGE 165F on: Jul 27, 2013, 09:16PM
I feel like I need to track down just to be part of the "Club"........congrats!
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Bach 6 3/4 C for .509 Tenors? on: Jul 27, 2013, 04:42PM
Dave Panichi uses one with his 3B Silver Sonic and get a really rich but nimble tone.  Just sayin.... Way cool
19  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: Millennium Edition? on: Jul 27, 2013, 04:34PM
Knowing what we know about the whole debacle of dating UMI Kings I think this is as far as we will be able confirm.   Yeah, RIGHT.  Thanks for helping to date this!

20  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: Millennium Edition? on: Jul 27, 2013, 04:24PM
My serial number is 932xxx.  I am already aware of the different dating used in 90's up until 95 because I had to date my 4B.  I thought the for the horn to be a 93 it had to have 43 as the first 2 digits in the serial number.  (Just like my 1992 4B has 42 as the first 2 digits).  Other charts for serial number charts I have read would put my horn from 1983-1984.....So what year is my horn actually from?
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