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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Modifying a mouthpiece on: May 25, 2017, 06:37AM
If the tech cant't see the difference between a Stainless and silverplated mouthpiece, run...
2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Elkhart 88h inner slides specs on: May 18, 2017, 07:35AM
A few years ago King went to a looser fit on their stockings...a bit too much IMO.  Then Bach followed suit.  I know after complaints from techs, Bach went back to close to original specs. 

The compression is good on the Conn tubes.

When I rebuild an entire slide, the new outer tubes will also be shorter.  Very few people ask for springs in the cork barrels and pitch in general is higher than in 1955 when they designed the original 88H, so not an issue.
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Elkhart 88h inner slides specs on: May 16, 2017, 06:48AM
Conn still makes 8/88H tubes...they are a hair smaller in diameter, but the shape of the stocking is much improved over the "square" Elkhart design.
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Edwards Bass Bone Miniballs on: May 07, 2017, 06:29AM
...are your linkages connected correctly?
The miniball arms need to be connected correctly...
There is a slight bend the the miniball arm that should rotate in the direction the valve moves. If installed backwards it will not move correctly  :cry:

Sam

Bends in the actuating arm are typically to get over the valve spindle/stop arm.  If the attachment point is past the end of the stop arm screw the it is unnecessary.
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Edwards Bass Bone Miniballs on: May 07, 2017, 06:26AM
"This is why I don't prefer minibals.."

Are we talking "actual", German made Minibals, or copies as used by some manufacturers? There is a difference. I wouldn't use anything "other" than genuine Minibals.

M

Edwards, Bach, Conn, some tubas...Never really saw a name on them, but I don't order them either.
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Edwards Bass Bone Miniballs on: May 06, 2017, 06:56AM
This is why I don't prefer minibals...hard to adjust.  I've had limited success tapping the loose ones together in a mandrel to minimize noise, less luck loosening the overly tight ones.

It's easiest to just replace them, gets pricey on a 5 valve tuba when 3 or 4 are bad...
7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Full length leadpipes for tenor/bass?? on: May 04, 2017, 06:14PM
Because of the slide we can only be "dualish".  Only a few trombones have a taper in the slide crook...I guess you could have a 1/2" long position 8 bore slide with tapered crooks... Evil

The point of a trombone it to sound bright and noble, present and boisterous, not wide and invisible like a baritone.
8  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / MOVED: Red Rot? on a fake King on: May 04, 2017, 06:50AM
This topic has been moved to Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance.

http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99742.0
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Full length leadpipes for tenor/bass?? on: May 04, 2017, 06:46AM
A friend wanted to play his small mouthpiece in is Minick 88, so I found a bit of slide tubing about a foot long that I put a 78H leadpipe in. TADA!

My question is why?  If you are thinking a more conical bore, if you go too far, then it becomes a slide baritone.
10  Teaching & Learning / History of the Trombone / Re: The Trombonist's Time Machine on: May 02, 2017, 10:43AM
It's a toss up, either early '50s and maybe practice enough to get on Kenton's band, or back to Gesualdo's era.
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Bringing an Instrument up to Pitch on: Apr 28, 2017, 07:34AM
Many early (pre WWII) instruments are low, coupled with our penchant for larger mouthpieces...from low to flat.Cutting the length is the only answer.

RE the 88H, if it was OK before the leadipe swap, it's probably the leadpipe.  The new pipe may be loose/leaking, or may just be directing you to play on the low side.  Since it's not normal on an 88H, have a couple other players test it, and retest with the old leadpipe...if the new leadpipe does work better, then I guess you'd need to cut it, but there may also be better pipes that don't requires surgery.
12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: How many dents do you tolerate in your horns? on: Apr 26, 2017, 05:07PM
According to the RCH scale I have no dents, however, my horn looks old and is acceptable in most bars and orchestras.  If I do get a love tap it comes out the next day..probably.
13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Worn mouthpiece receiver on Besson 944 or faulty venturi??? on: Apr 20, 2017, 05:42AM
I worked on a small bore Besson of that vintage...it was brand new.  The horn just didn't play so the owner had me pull the pipe, but it was just an approximation of a pipe...like it hadn't been finished or something.  I put a Bach 12 in and it played great.

I'd get it looked at and possibly get the pipe removed and see what's up?
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Protec bass bone case repair on: Apr 13, 2017, 06:35AM
I have a couple also, you could check a week from Sunday... Evil
15  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: New corks on mutes on: Apr 11, 2017, 06:59AM
Fear of failure. :/

yet you play trombone... Evil
16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: trombone plays flat on: Mar 15, 2017, 08:07AM
Wrinkle cream? Viagra?
17  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Baritone "polishing mandrel" on the cheap? on: Feb 24, 2017, 07:25PM
Use a 30" piece of 4x4 and a plane/shaper/drawshave and rough it to you eye, leaving enough to clear the vice and bench.  then put a bell on and wiggle it around...will leave high shiny marks, remove those until you get a snug fit. After I'm good on the shape I hit it with sandpaper, then some rattlecan.
18  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / Re: Watrous Interview on: Feb 23, 2017, 02:11PM
I've been lucky enough to have Bill local and have played with him (as a student) many times.  Later he was a featured soloist with the University band where I worked.  The sound guy was not very good, argued with Bill about this and that, didn't follow very clear and specific instructions...and the show was worse.  Bill and the band played on, but feedback, monitor levels, reverb...were not acceptable.  Through the show, he was professional and polite, and played his ass off.  After the show we were packing up and the sound guy came backstage and said "If you'd only..." and then Bill let him have it, an eloquent tirade of about 30 minutes, poetic, Shakespearian even.  He disected everything and let the tech know about it.  As he was summing up the manager came, and said you can't talk to my sound guy that way...10 more minutes.

Every concert we did after that the theater always asked if the featured artist was a trombone player Evil

I never saw that as a flaw, just a person who doesn't suffer fools.  Whatever his motivation, he is an obvious perfectionist and has a clear idea about what he wants and how to get it.
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Cheap Chinese Horns Keep Improving. on: Feb 23, 2017, 07:07AM
To be fair this looked like a '60s horn, even a jr high kid could not put this "patina" on it in 10 years :D
20  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Cheap Chinese Horns Keep Improving. on: Feb 22, 2017, 07:00AM
Of course, if it really pisses you off to have to repair the worst of it, just refuse.

Considering it...
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