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1  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: WTB 6 1/2AL or 6 1/2A Small Shank Mouthpiece on: Today at 08:30 AM
PM sent.
2  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Besson BE968 compensating euphonium on: Today at 12:21 AM
Here is a very nice Besson Sovereign 3 + 1 compensating euphonium.  Model 968 is identical to the 967 but with an 11" bell.  Silver-plate, clean, plays beautifully.  Protec gig bag.   $3400 + shipping
3  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: Holton TR181 bass trombone! on: Yesterday at 07:29 PM
Okay, photos here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Tx4lUt47pLlhicnn1

And here are some corrections for my description:

The horn is, as I said above, in great shape BUT... there are a few minor issues that I failed to mention. There are two dents - one on the main tuning slide and one on the bell throat.  There is also a ding on one  of the outers.  I have to wonder if I did this, since I don't remember it being there when I got the horn. Anyway, I can feel a slight ripple when moving the slide.  The slide is otherwise excellent.  Alignment is good and inners have no plating wear.

I can have my tech address these issues.  Or knock a couple hundred off the price.
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Benge 290 on: Yesterday at 12:54 PM
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I've considered mods for my DG, but would just picking up the Benge do the trick? 

Probably not.  I have only played one 290 - it was nothing like a Duo Gravis.  You have some good techs in LA (and maybe closer).  Have the levers split. 
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Looking for recommendations on a Symphonic horn on: Yesterday at 12:47 PM
A horn that I am curious about is the Yamaha YSL-620. Very basic horn, but Yamaha quality. About $2200. I assume Yamaha has a pretty good dealer network.

I have the bass trombone equivalent and I preferred it to the two Xenos (822 and 830) that I tried.

I have one. Awesome horn.  Plays as well as the 882's but lighter and more comfortable.  (It is not a lightweight horn - just normal.  The Xenos are serious heavyweights!)

To the OP:  Add Yamaha to your list.
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Trying to ID a Yamaha on ebay on: Yesterday at 12:42 PM
356G, I would say.  Not a 600 series horn, for sure.
7  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: Getzen 1062FDR bass trombone! on: Oct 17, 2017, 08:55PM
Yoo-hoo!!!.....  Over here!!   :-0
8  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: Holton TR181 bass trombone! on: Oct 17, 2017, 08:54PM
Hello?...   Hi Hi Hi
9  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FREE Bach 42 case on: Oct 17, 2017, 08:52PM
hey  a  notebook  will fit in it    clari  always come in handy  too  !!!!!!!!!!

I love clari for cranking out those great Klosť finger-busters!!!!!!!!  What is more fun than that???...

This case is still lonely and looking to hook up...
10  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: Bach 42BO - NICE! on: Oct 17, 2017, 08:46PM
Anybody?  Make an offer - I am ready to see this one go! 
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Tuning in Slide vs. Tuning in Bell on: Oct 15, 2017, 02:14PM
This phenomenon isn't even intentional with their design, they were designed with smaller mouthpieces in mind then the toilet bowls we use now. When I use a 1 1/2g on a 50B I pull out an inch, with my Doug Elliott Schilke 60ish piece I can only bump it out a couple of centimeters before Bb in first is unusable.

Gee, I use a Bach 1.5G or a Hammond 19BL and pull out only 1/4" or less on my 50B in a comfortably warm room.  I guess the player is part of the equation, too.
12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Tuning in Slide vs. Tuning in Bell on: Oct 15, 2017, 01:14PM
Well, wouldn't hitting low C be EVEN HARDER if my single-valve bass didn't have a tuning slide, once the horn warmed up?

All horns are different, of course. My Bach 42 and 50 play quite flat and I can play with the tuning slides pulled out very little (if at all).  But other horns need to be pulled a good inch.  I would be hard pressed to extend my 7th position another inch.  Slide action stinks way out there, and my arm is only so long...

13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Slide for a 71H on: Oct 12, 2017, 06:30AM
I think that solution leaves me without full use of the slide since the inners would be unchanaged.  Not sure if that matters... depends on my reach.


As well have leave you with an outer slide with a defective top inch or so.  This mod won't improve things at all.  I think with patience you will be able to find a long Conn slide.  View this as a long-term project.
14  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: wtb bach double plug or yamaha xeno bass for less than $2000. on: Oct 12, 2017, 06:19AM
Well, Holtons might SEEM stuffy.. but they really aren't, in my experience.  I would describe them as "average." With practice, they blow wide open. 
15  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Speedbar Triggers on: Oct 10, 2017, 07:09AM
The seller is a reputable music store (chain) in Japan. They know guitars and equipment. Band instruments not so much. But I bought a horn from them last year and it was very carefully packed and was in mint condition as advertised. It was a good deal. Some of their brass and woodwind prices are fine; some are high.
16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: F attachments on: Oct 07, 2017, 08:09AM

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I do know that the trombones with F attachments can vary in the arrangement of tubing. Does this affect the sound at all? If yes, which trombone with the F attachment would you recommend?

In short, no.  There are many other factors more important in determining how an F-att horn will play.  Like the valve, gooseneck, bore, leadpipe, crook shape, and on and on.  The shape of the F-att should not be a factor in choosing a horn.  IMO.

I also strongly agree with FPT above.  Work with your instructor to pick a horn. 
17  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: Rath R-900 Bass Trombone on: Oct 01, 2017, 04:47PM
I have played this horn.  It is great! 

And Riccardo is an absolute straight shooter.  Good!
18  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Pedal tone question on: Oct 01, 2017, 02:29PM
Many bass trombonists (and tenor trombonists for that matter) have an embouchure shift somewhere around pedal G, Gb, F or possibly E, to keep going into lower pedal notes.

Perhaps, for your face, Ab and G are the last bits of the pre-shift embouchure and not quite as solid as the Bb and A, or the post-shift pedals Gb downwards.


This describes my situation exactly.  I usually shift at Gb and below.  So, Ab and G are getting close to where I need to shift but not quite.  I am trying to build as much overlap as possible:  I would like to be able play pedals from maybe G down using the high placement (shifted) but also play down as low as possible with my regular embouchure - at least as far as F.  I think the more overlap you have, the more flexibility. 
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Conn 79h valve repair or replace on: Sep 30, 2017, 06:22PM
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This is a pretty good example to me of the gamble that one takes buying on ebay...

Yup. 

But... if you like the horn, enjoy it.  Whether you got a bargain or ended up paying more than you had hoped.  That doesn't change the horn.  A good horn is a good horn.  :)
20  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Conn 79h valve repair or replace on: Sep 30, 2017, 06:19PM
You may find that the horn plays better with time.  Fresh solder joints can make the instrument play a bit "raw" for a while.  I found this when Shires did a bell transplant on my Yamaha 682.  For 6 months I wasn't sure I had done a good thing (although the old bell was unplayable and unrepairable) but now it plays better than the original bell did.

Meanwhile I'll bet that the replacement tuning slide may make a difference in the sound (probably for the better).

Gee, Bruce, do you think it was the solder that changed over time?  Or you?...
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