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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: medium bore Yamahas, 600 series on: Yesterday at 12:19 PM
I love my 645.  It's so versatile!

--Andy in OKC
2  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Practicing for big band lead on: Feb 15, 2018, 04:47AM

I've been a dedicated lead trombonist my entire career, though I do less of it these days. It's a lifestyle. A lead player must possess strong jazz sensibilities and a desire to delve into the history of the art form; listening to the precise details of all styles of big band, from mickey to modern. Minutiae, minutiae, minutiae. Wanzo, Bernhart, Zentner, Nash, Falco, Porter, and others. You gotta practice what you're gonna be playing.

A lot has already been said about practice drills, but for me, it's more a mindset than anything else. Have you ever wanted to kill another human being? I'm serious! If the answer is no, then you probably won't be much of a lead player, at least not one that I'd be interested in listening to. Harsh? Maybe.


 Good! Good! Good! Good!

Reposting this gem for this younger / less experienced folks who will come along and miss this gem in all the chitchat...

--Andy in OKC
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: 88H trigger snapped on: Jan 29, 2018, 04:24AM
Before I start ringing round repair shops, I wonder whether anyone in the UK has an old (string) type 88H trigger they could sell me, as mine has snapped.

Please PM me with offers...

It is possible for a good repair guy to braze this and make it almost as good as new.  Eric Edwards (boneartz here on the forums) did this for a school horn our local school had.  I was floored when I saw the work.  It was nearly impossible to tell it had been snapped.  And it was solid as a rock.

--Andy in OKC
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Music Scanning Softwar for Finale PrintMusic 2007 on: Jan 23, 2018, 04:20AM
Hmmm.  Makes me consider running Musescore under windows.  Thanks for sharing that.

--Andy in OKC
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Music Scanning Softwar for Finale PrintMusic 2007 on: Jan 22, 2018, 06:26PM
I'll recommend it on their Github page.  They're probably a heck of a lot more responsive than Avid is.  I wish I knew C++ or else I'd probably have contributed a long time ago. I like the idea of not needing to be tethered to Sibelius, but on the other hand, I wasn't really satisfied with the input of any of the open source applications last I tried. They all seemed to be based on Finale in some respect which I find much less useful.  A "Sibelius" mode that would let you choose to make it behave like Sibelius input would probably convert me to MuseScore.  I would have to go through and convert all of my scores to XML though which would be a pita!

It's been a number of years since I had my hands in C++ but I've been tempted by the MuseScore project to jump back in.  I hope to have a career change at the end of this year, so perhaps that will be the time for me to dust off the C++.  :)

--Andy in OKC
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Music Scanning Softwar for Finale PrintMusic 2007 on: Jan 22, 2018, 04:39AM

One of the most useful features that I'm surprised hasn't been implemented (maybe is has for all I know) is to take an individual part and superimpose it behind the Sibelius layer so you can input while looking at the same screen.

That would be great!  Or, at least a semi-transparent background for entry mode for the notation window.  I wonder if MuseScore would be interested in something like this.

--Andy in OKC
7  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / Re: Low C above pedal Bb on: Jan 15, 2018, 05:09AM
Yes, this.

I'm guessing you have a big shift for a pedal Bb. Is that right? If so, practice playing the pedal Bb more like the Bb an octave above. Can you slur down the octave from Bb in the staff to pedal Bb? Work on that, keeping the basic angle of the mouthpiece to your face the same and the jaw drop subtle. Look iin a mirror to see that the motion you do is as simple as possible. Slur back to low Bb. Eventually both notes will change, along with all the notes in between.

Now work on slurring down from low Bb to pedal Bb and then up to low C, all with that same basic mouthpiece angle.

Using that angle, I then do lip slurs up and down the partial series two full octaves with both valves engaged, then with one valve, then on the open horn, moving up chromatically so that I am covering the high range of the instrument as well.

Repeat every day for the rest of your life.


This strikes me as an excellent approach.  I struggle with Low C and Low B natural and I'm going to work on it this way.

Gabe, et al, do you have any thoughts about mouthpiece size when working in this area?  Larger mouthpieces make it easier for me, but I fear that is just allowing me to play these notes incorrectly.  Or should I work on this with smaller mouthpieces or even on my tenor with the F slide pulled?  That would make it harder, but might help me make sure I'm doing this correctly.

(I'm not looking for mouthpiece advice - and yes, I know I should work on this with the mouthpiece I play. ;-)  My analytical side of my brain is just curious about the benefits/pitfalls...)

--Andy in OKC
8  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: WTB: Beautiful King 3B/F SS on: Jan 15, 2018, 04:43AM
No problem.  I just emailed you.  :)

-- Andy in OKC
9  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: serious euph chops on: Jan 13, 2018, 06:17AM
I noticed in the credits that this youtube video was just lifted from Facebook.  I hate people who profit off of other people's work, so I'm posting the original link here...

Use this one - and no, it doesn't require you to login to Facebook to view it. ;-)


--Andy in OKC
10  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: WTB: Beautiful King 3B/F SS on: Jan 13, 2018, 06:09AM
I sent you a PM.

--Andy in OKC
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Help Me Find A Good Slide Lubricant For My 50's Martin Committee on: Jan 08, 2018, 04:32PM
Exactly Bruce!!! I use the term "band fixer" for most big box bench monkeys that barely know enough to take up space in a shop.


I used to futz with the slide on my Yamaha 645 all the time.  New lubes, spray bottle, slide swab, etc.  Had it to 3 different repair guys.

I send it to Eric.  Now, I just play the darned thing and a little Yamaha Slide Snot or Ultra Pure every now and then.

Moral of the story?  There are bench monkeys.  There are good slide guys.  And there are guys that you find and cherish, like Eric. Good!  Find one of those and stop futzing with slide lubes...

--Andy in OKC
12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Duo Gravis Case goofiness on: Jan 06, 2018, 05:22AM
Thanks, Aiden!    :)

Yes, my case is different.  Box is on the right, under the valve tube.  I would prefer to have the box where yours is located.  I'm fairly certain you know, but thought I'd mention that a little bottle of Weldwood contact cement will take care of that leather tear and keep your case in its same great shape for longer!  Good!

--Andy in OKC
13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Duo Gravis Case goofiness on: Jan 05, 2018, 06:59PM
Good for you!  So, that would make it a Quattro Gravis...


--Andy in OKC
14  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / Re: Carol Jarvis on: Jan 04, 2018, 04:27AM
Oh yeah!   Good!

--Andy in OKC
15  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Bad slide on: Jan 03, 2018, 11:08AM
I think that answers my question. The product didn't stand the test. I am starting to recall that I once tried it myself.  : confused

I liked it very much when I was still using slide treatments that also used a spray bottle.  But I've moved on to Yamaha Slide Snot and occasionally, Ultra Pure.  I don't use water with either of those.

YMMV (your mileage may vary)

--Andy in OKC
16  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Rasping playing A in treble clef and G in bass clef on: Jan 03, 2018, 04:34AM
Have a Skype lesson with Doug...will save you hours of frustration and 's or $$$'s you would spend on looking for a miracle mouthpiece!  Clever

Yep.  Just learn to do it correctly while you are in your relearning period.  You'll enjoy what you are returning to far more than if you just try to work things out by yourself.

--Andy in OKC
17  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Doubling trumpet without using too much pressure on: Jan 02, 2018, 10:48AM
I do not know what you are doing, but I can tell you that in my case, a couple of lessons with Doug got me started down the path to correcting major problems in my embouchure.  Prior to that work, I could hardly play on trumpet.  Now I'm able to play to C above the treble clef staff with relatively little effort - as long as I've been practicing trumpet for a few days in advance.

It did take me some time to feel comfortable, though.  Maybe 6 months? 

Your mileage may vary, of course...  :D

--Andy in OKC
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Duo Gravis Case goofiness on: Dec 31, 2017, 05:53AM
I never keep my mouthpiece with my horn. It came naturally since I switch horn very often. Yes, I have forgot my mouthpiece...


I do that about half the time, too.

--Andy in OKC
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Duo Gravis Case goofiness on: Dec 31, 2017, 05:52AM
Andy, sounds like you upgraded to a nicer DG - congrats!

Yes, I know that style case.  It annoyed me, too!  When I break a horn into its two sections, I want to put one of them in the case - not on the floor temporarily while I put the mpc away.  So, I would put the bell section away, then the slide, and... then look at the covered up mouthpiece box and say, "oh, man, why did they do that?" and then pull the bell section out so I could put the mpc away!  Again and again.  It is hard to break old habits, ain't it?...


(And, yes.  Although I'm currently hoarding both horns....  Yeah, RIGHT. :D)

--Andy in OKC
20  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Duo Gravis Case goofiness on: Dec 30, 2017, 05:24AM
I have one with the mouthpiece box in the upper left. Is that not how yours is?

I think we're describing the same location.  For me, with the D slide in, the second trigger tuning slide lays right over the box.  I keep my mouthpiece in a pouch, so I normally put my mouthpiece away after I put my bell away, so I'm not juggling the whole horn while I'm trying to get my mouthpiece into the pouch.  Guess this old dog will have to learn new tricks. lol

--Andy in OKC

Edit:  Actually, as I think about it... The mouthpiece box in my case is in the upper right, when I have the case opened in front of me. 
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