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1  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: Like-new Bach Bass trombone case on: Aug 13, 2017, 05:34AM
PM sent

--Andy in OKC
2  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: Bass Bone Mouthpieces and a Soft Gig bag on: Aug 13, 2017, 05:28AM
Email sent - Bach 2G.

--Andy in OKC
3  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Idea: How to practice to reduce embouchure movements. on: Aug 06, 2017, 06:09AM
Am I the only one that sees a distinct embouchure change when Tom ascends in the first video?  It happens right at the  switch between the first and second octave.  If I were to use words to describe what I *think* I'm seeing, I'd say maybe it looks like what I think Sabutin describes as shifts.  But to me, it seems very forced, almost as if Tom's trying to use a smile embouchure to ascend.  The chops reset as he descends for the next pattern and then there's that shift again about half way up.

--Andy in OKC
4  Creation and Performance / The Healthy Trombonist / Re: Shoulder and Wrist Exercises on: Jul 23, 2017, 05:36AM
Dan Hine posted some exercises earlier this year.  I've begun doing this and it's made a world of difference for me.


--Andy in OKC
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Difference between King 3BF Silversonic models on: Jul 18, 2017, 04:19AM
King had a mechanical kidney-shaped linkage since the 1950s on the 3B.  The larger models used string (4B, 5B, etc.)

The "wash" in the bell is gold.  It's quite thin and was usually on all Silver Sonics.  It's pretty easy for it to be wiped off, especially when polishing the bell.

FWIW, my 3BF (circa 1978) has string linkage.  Don't know   My parents bought me the horn new.

--Andy in OKC.
6  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: iBone app on: Jul 17, 2017, 05:19AM
I tried it many years ago. Unless they really worked on it, I remember it being a gimmick. Not even cool like the Otomatone

Same here.  Fun to show kids.  That's about it.  Wasn't useful to me as a practice tool.  Now if they had one in Bb/F/Gb/D...  Evil

--Andy in OKC
7  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: I'm Going To Have My First Trombone/Bass Trombone Lesson on: Jul 12, 2017, 07:51PM
If you are going to have lessons, search out the teacher with the best reputation.... a good teacher will inspire you, a bad teacher will confuse and demoralise you. I can see you are growing in maturity and will really benefit from GOOD tuition.

Chris Stearn

Or at least frustrate you...

Good luck with the teacher.  Don't be afraid to make a change if you don't believe you're making meaningful progress.

--Andy in OKC
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Yamaha Slide oil bottle breaking on: Jul 12, 2017, 07:41PM
If you can't wait until you get an ear infection, you can always just buy them for the price of bubble gum.

THESE ones for slide lube.

And THESE are great for valve and linkage oil.

I bought some small bottles for my Yamasnot.  I can't believe I never thought of this before.  This is so much better than the new stock bottle.   Good! Good! Good! Good!

--Andy in OKC
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Easy Play Trumpet? on: Jul 08, 2017, 04:03AM
Here's a link to a page of a 1926 edition of Popular Mechanics that has an ad for a Pan-American Easy Play trumpet.


Apparently, according to the ad, "the trumpet is the star performer in every orchestra or band..."  Yeah, RIGHT.

--Andy in OKC
10  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Brad Close sackbuts on: Jul 04, 2017, 12:12PM
If you look at Ken Biggs (KBiggs) avatar, he's holding his trombone like they hold the sackbuts in a lot of the pictures (which I assume wasn't an invention of the artists).  It's not going to work well on an instrument with lousy slide action and an unsoldered mouthpiece, though.


--Andy in OKC
11  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Skipping Partials Cleanly? on: Jul 04, 2017, 12:10PM
Why, if I would have had this instruction years ago, I could have been unemployed as a decent trombone player for 30 years! lol



--Andy in OKC
12  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FREE: Reynolds Medalist trombone on: Jul 04, 2017, 06:07AM
Thanks, guys.  We all do our own little part to make things better. :)

--Andy in OKC
13  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Skipping Partials Cleanly? on: Jul 04, 2017, 06:05AM
It can be very frustrating when you "plateau" even though you put lots and lots of time into something. The "Doug" I referenced earlier is one of the mods for this forum and was the one who set me straight on most of my playing. I can definitely recommend checking in with him; he does Skype lessons if you can't make it out to where he's at in Maryland. (Although he's currently doing a road trip around the US, so he might be travelling through your area). I wish I had known about his teaching sooner, it would have saved quite a bit of work down the road. The only thing more frustrating than not being able to do something is needing to undo something you spent engraving into your habits!  >:(  ;-)

I agree.  Wish I had learned the right processes much earlier.  I'd be a different and much better player today without having to unlearn so much. :(

--Andy in OKC
14  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FREE: Reynolds Medalist trombone on: Jul 03, 2017, 04:39AM
Tom, I'll take it off your hands and pass along to one of the local schools after cleaning it up.  I'll email you.

--Andy in OKC
15  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: Gaining more control on: Jul 01, 2017, 05:21AM
Are these additions beginners?

When I work with younger students, I find that time boxing helps to keep students from becoming restless and bored.  (Time boxing working on specific things in small chunks of time.) Beginners become bored and distracted very quickly, so I try to limit things to about 5 minutes for each time box.

Making exercises into games is also good for keeping kids focused, as is a small time set aside for "show off" time.  If I'm doing a regular daily schedule with a group I will use Friday as "Show off Friday" where kids can play anything they want for the rest of the group.  The idea here is to encourage kids to feel good about their playing, so it doesn't matter what they play as long as it's short.  Ideally, it's something they've been asked to practice during class at some point.

Good luck and keep us posted.  Good!

--Andy in OKC
16  Creation and Performance / Music, Concerts and Recordings / Re: Chart Numbering Systems on: Jul 01, 2017, 05:06AM
And it has a different number in each Big Band I play in Evil :-P

Yes....  Don't know :cry:

--Andy in OKC
17  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: How do you get more core in the sound? on: Jun 30, 2017, 04:43AM
How is trying to change a sound by imagining it, but without involving any physical change going to work? It's more efficient to try to understand the relationship between the components that create sound, good and bad, and then practicing to improve from that new point.
Practicing repeatedly from an erroneous position may feel noble, but it's a waste of practice time unless one gets lucky with a random moment of insight.

I think you'll be surprised at what the body will do automatically to facilitate a sound, once you have developed a solid mental sound concept.  That's a primary reason why top level musicians sound the same even when they periodically switch instruments.  Or, conversely, when two different top level musicians alternately play the same instrument.  Each one still sounds like them.

To paraphrase Yogi Berra, "90 percent of music is mental, the other 90% is physical." ;-)

--Andy in OKC
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Brad Close sackbuts on: Jun 26, 2017, 04:38AM
Yes, sackbut is held differently than modern trombone. There are various grip solutions. If you look at pictures or videos of players you can see the different ways they are held. Also, the bass can easily have a thumb rest attached at the bell receiver area to allow for a modern type grip.

Thanks, Brad.  I'll google around. :)

Good luck with these!

--Andy in OKC
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Brad Close sackbuts on: Jun 25, 2017, 05:29AM
Very cool.  Good!

Is the left hand usage substantially different on this horn?  If so, is that common for sackbut?  I don't think I could hold this horn with a traditional left-hand grip.  (I hope this doesn't sound like griping or trolling -- I really am just interested in the intention and mechanics of the grip.   Confused)

--Andy in OKC
20  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Watching and listening on: Jun 22, 2017, 07:38PM
Okay, this made me chuckle...

--Andy in OKC

Why's that?

As Blast said, because it's so often the truth...  :D :cry:

-Andy in OKC
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