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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Trying basses? on: Jan 28, 2018, 05:23PM
Because you said you were a sophomore in HS, my advice would be not look at expensive new bass trombones. Look around the ads here and other where for decent used Bachs, Conns, Yamahas, Getzens, Holtons. There are a lot of them. Get something very good and think about trading up in the future. Go to some of the trade shows at brass or trombone festivals, try out lots of things. Talk to teachers and respected pros you know or will know in the future and listen to their suggestions. Many of my HS students have bought terrific older trombones and played them for a long time before deciding to invest in a "brand new instrument".

Now is not the time to find the perfect horn for the rest of your life, just a really good instrument that will serve your needs for a few years. Experience will teach you much more than random comments on this or any other internet forum how to find the "upgrade".
2  Creation and Performance / Music, Concerts and Recordings / Re: Why Not More Trombone Concertos? on: Jan 03, 2018, 05:26PM
At the last ITA convention in Redlands I heard several fantastic trombone soloists. Composers need to hear those fantastic players to be inspire. Only when fantastic players are heard will composers write for them.
3  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: What is tone? on: Nov 04, 2017, 03:50PM
When I think of using the word tone I think using the qualifiers (adjectives, adverbs) are more important then the word (noun).
For example: “really good tone”, “really bad tone”, “wonderful tone quality”, “out of tune tone”,  etc.

In other words, everything has a tone, everyone produces tones, it’s what you do with them that matters.

When I was living in Los Angeles and a very good friend of a famous studio player, who I will not name because he has not given me that permission. He told me that he figured out why George Roberts was so sought after, because of his beautiful sound whenever he played. So that same player made it his goal to have one of the beautiful tone quality of all trombone players that he was associated with. And he created exercises that helped to do that, “Long Tones, man, long tones” Definitely has worked for him he is on hundreds if not thousands of soundtracks.

Whenever I think of good tone quality, equate it to singers. Which most of my teachers and people like George Roberts imparted to me that was important. Good intonation, clear articulation (or in the case of singers pronunciation), excellent rhythm  (how do you start and end that tone?) and a personal approach to every pitch that you produce.

Tone is not the goal, It is the result of your musicality.
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5  Creation and Performance / The Healthy Trombonist / Re: Anybody really know how to use an elliptical in the gym? on: Aug 27, 2017, 03:02PM
I used to run on most days. Then, at one point my doctor suggested that because of lower back and spine issues I was having, the pounding on the turf or road that running implied was not the best thing for me. So, I started using elliptical machines. That meant working out in a gym instead of outside and that was a loss.  However, the elliptical workout was a lot easier on my body and that was a good thing.

Most elliptical machines have various settings to adjust resistance levels.  On some you can adjust the incline of the machine to increase difficulty. Using those various controls or just going faster can usually translate into a pretty good workout in my experience.  However, it is true that you can also just do the equivalent to an easy stroll in the woods on the machines if that is how you decide to use them. So, like in many things (including trombone practice) you get out of the practice what you put in. 

In terms of how to use the machines:  I usually start with a period of low resistance to warm up and then increase speed and resistance for a block of time then then have a warm down period.  By adjusting resistance and speed you up and down you can also achieve something akin to interval training.  Each of the brands is a little different in terms of the controls and some brands are not very comfortable for me to use.

This is a trombone forum and so many of those who log onto it are not necessarily fitness fanatics. I'm not. In my case, the goal is some aerobic exercise, some stretching and some weight bearing exercise every day. My doc's take was that in the aerobic category, an elliptical machine workout was least likely to cause injuries --so that daily practice becomes more likely.     

I am in my 60s and that is one reason why the elliptical machine seems attractive. When I was in my 20s I wanted more challenging forms of exercise. Also, at that point in my life I felt almost immortal.  I certainly don't feel anything near immortal now and I appreciate a machine that is relatively easy on the body.   

I ran regularly about 20 miles a week for several years. At about age 60, my right knee said "no more". I transferred to bicycling and gym workouts including the elliptical. I use it about twice a week (alternating with swimming and stationary bikes, as well as my street biking).

Elliptical makes my heart rate go high, produces a heavy sweat, and (with changing some functions) is as worthy a workout as my running days, but with less stress on my joints.

My advice, be aggressive and challenging, use the warm down, do some stretching after the workout. I use elliptical after a vigorous weight work out of about 40 minutes, an aerobic finish to my workout.
6  Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members / Re: Who is going to the 2017 International Trombone Festival?? on: Jun 24, 2017, 07:10PM
I will be there every day. Mostly because it is on the West Coast and very close to me. But I've always wanted to attend.
7  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Tuba and bass trom are not interchangeable on: Jun 24, 2017, 07:07PM
I played lot in brass quintet and i think lot of baroque music and older music is fine whatever bass instrument we use. Music from that time was often played on whatever instrument available. But more modern music like the Ewald brass quintets is better on tuba in my ears.
Exactly what I would've said, Baroque and music earlier than that used just about any bass instrument that was available but Romantic era and later music that specified tuba really should be played on tuba.
8  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Trombone feature pieces? on: May 07, 2017, 07:29AM
Want to really  wow them?  Have a few of you do the piccolo solo on trombone. :D
I have a quartet arrangement with the piccolo solo in the bass trombone, valve "trills" (more like flutters). A flute/piccolo player attended a performance and after all the laughter told me it worked great  :D Pant
9  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: How do you get back to playing well after not playing on: Apr 30, 2017, 11:45AM
Assuming that you were in good playing condition before you took a break, I read something about this many years ago and have tried it often after taking 1-2 weeks off the horn (which I make a point to do every year), it works for me.

First time back, carefully go through an easy warm-up: long tones, easy lip slurs, a few scales. Then, play anything--a solo, an etude, a familiar song--in mid range fff about 3 times. As loud as you can play with a good sound. 15-20 minutes. Put the instrument away, next day go back to your regular practice, just avoid difficult playing (hard lip slurs, wide range, extremely fast stuff, etc) for about a week.

It is a shock technique to your embouchure, breathing, and articulation. Like a long distance runner getting back in shape by running a few fast sprints.
10  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Where do you play high D? on: Apr 18, 2017, 03:31PM
2nd position with the trigger.
ditto. #3 works for me as well
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Cleaning a King alligator coffin case on the OUTSIDE on: Apr 18, 2017, 03:30PM
armourall works great
12  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Basic Military Training on: Apr 17, 2017, 05:28PM
I went thru basic in the Army during the Vietnam war. Even though I was going to a band in SF. 2 months of very rugged experience, but it is only 2 months. Lost some weight, got in shape, and got be around some of the biggest (nice word) jerks of my life...that also helped me grow into an adult.

But are you doing Navy basic training, isn't that longer and more involved? Good luck.
13  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / Re: My tribute to George Roberts on: Apr 15, 2017, 07:02PM
  Having met George several times, as well as well as listening to his playing. He would just give you a big smile and say thank you.
14  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: 1st trombone bass trombone on: Apr 10, 2017, 12:52PM
or they could have sounded diffuse or barely there.  Not every high school player sounds good on big equipment.
As I remember I think he said the whole section played 1 1/2 Gs (he did). I think he said there was usually upwards of a dozen trombone players. Probably sounded like the sound tracks to Lord of the Rings or Planet of the Apes where they used several bass trombones, contrabass trombones, and cimbassos.
15  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: 1st trombone bass trombone on: Apr 10, 2017, 09:15AM
Many years ago when I was an Army musician at the Armed Forces School of Music at Little Rock, VA (Norfolk). I was "issued" a tenor while waiting for my bass to be shipped. I worked my way up to 2nd chair in the top band, the 1st chair (Navy) was playing 1st parts on a single valve Bach 50B. He was a very good player and had no problem with the first parts. After a few rehearsals I finally asked him why he was playing lead parts on a bass trombone. His reply, "What's a bass trombone?" Turns out at his Arkansas HS the entire trombone section played 50Bs  Amazed

That being said, I think lead parts just sound more appropriate on tenor.
16  Creation and Performance / Music, Concerts and Recordings / Re: Wave on: Apr 03, 2017, 08:30AM
I played Wave last summer with the Coastal Communities Jazz Band at the Carlsbad Community Church as part of their concert series. Last February I played Saturday Night Is The Loneliest Night Of The Week, another bass bone feature by Pat Williams, with the same band at the same place.
17  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: How to get a better sound when playing loud? on: Apr 01, 2017, 08:55PM
I recommend not forcing the air, just take a big breath and let it flow naturally. Keep the mpc loose on the lips, let them vibrate do not make them vibrate.

Probably the best advice I got from my teachers was to mentally focus on the sound you want, instead of impressing others with your volume.
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Anyone here familiar w/older Bundy trombones? on: Jan 26, 2017, 08:07PM
My first trombone was 1960 Bundy.7th to 10th grade. Played very well, I thought. I got interested in bass trombone and after 6 months could play awesome falset tones on it. After getting a bass trombone and playing it for a few months I picked up the Bundy and hated it. Tone sounded shrill and thin. But I think I remember it doing well on lead parts
19  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: pitching the trombone to non musicians on: Jan 22, 2017, 03:28PM
Selling trombone solo will always be tough.  With a sax, and trumpet, it usually works.
20  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: 2017 Inaugural address fact checking on: Jan 20, 2017, 07:35PM
It is odd to have to be fact-checking an inaugural address as they are typically broad vision for the future rather than a collection of assertions.
True, but he made broad statements about unemployment, crime, failed businesses, depleted military and some other things that were obviously unfactual or erroneous, I think the public needs to keep attention to his statements. His oratory is to make broad statements as if they are fact when they are not. Usually angry opinion, which angry opiniated people jump on board with.

Does that mean that GOP now stands for Grouchy Old Pharts?
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