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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Bass Trombone Mouthpiece question on: Dec 11, 2017, 06:24AM
I am primarily a Tenor player, but I`ve gotten into Bass trombone seriously in the last year. Playing in a 10 pcc Jazz group where I`m the Bass Trombone/Tuba chair.
My horn is an older Yamaha 321 single trigger . It`s a great horn and does everything I need. I`m currently playing on a Yamaha 58, which I know is not the biggest mouthpiece around.
I`m pretty happy with the rim feel and size but I`d like something that will give me a little more sock in the low range
Any ideas?
I`m kind of interested in Doug Elliotts 107 Bass rim (I believe it`s some where between 2G & 1 1/1 G size)
I don`t want to go too big rim wise as I don`t use this as my primary horn. but I do have to improvise with it too in the 10 pc. so I don`t want something that could become unweildy
Thanks



2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Really heavy trombones and lighter alternatives on: Dec 08, 2017, 05:27AM
I had a Bach 12 for a while (Yellow Brass Bell/Standard weight slide) that was the heaviest small bore I`ve ever played. It was almost the same weight as my 42BO.
It had a great dense sound but was just too heavy for me . Sold it to someone that is really happy with it,
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size on: Dec 08, 2017, 05:24AM
Jimmy Knepper played a 36 with an 8 1/2" bell. I read in an interview that he said it was the best horn he`d ever played.
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Bach/Conn Frankenbone on: Dec 06, 2017, 02:05PM
A friend of mine in Buffalo has the JJ horn mention above
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Bach/Conn Frankenbone on: Dec 06, 2017, 09:02AM
Luis`s horn is a 16M slide and gooseneck and a 36 slide.
I talked with him about it one afternoon. It`s a pretty unique horn
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Double valve tenor on: Dec 03, 2017, 09:03AM
Trombonist Glenn Ferris plays a double trigger Tenor. I believe he used to have a 2 valve King 3B for a while.
Not sure what he`s playing now..
Glenn`s a tremendous player. I remember seeing him with the Don Ellis Big band back when dirt was young.
His trio albums are fantastic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ej27CFREQo
7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: bass trombone recommendation on: Nov 22, 2017, 01:26PM
I`m was in the same boat, Tenor player looking to do some doubling.
I picked up a near mint condition Yamaha 321 single trigger bass Trombone.
Plays great , the price was right and as I`m just really getting into Bass seriously as a double
I thought that a single trigger was the best and least confusing way to go.
If I start to really develop, then MAYBE a 2 trigger set-up but for now, every thing I`m doing can covered with the single trigger
and it`s lighter
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: 3bF+ (.525) blow on a smaller horn on: Nov 13, 2017, 09:53PM
I would look into either a 3B (1st choice) or a 2B+ (2nd choice) a 2B is a very drastic bore change
or
here`s a different option
a Conn 32H   .500/.522 dual bore
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Stork T3 heavy on: Nov 09, 2017, 12:42PM
I just recently bought a Stork 5 with Doug Elliott threads so I could use my Elliott rim.
Thick, dense sound. Love it
10  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Looking for a type of mouthpiece on: Nov 09, 2017, 12:40PM
You should see if you can find (either here or ebay) an older Jettone Studio D model.
12/11/-ish rim size but very deep V cup
On my Large bore horn I use a Doug Elliott 98 rim (around the size of a Bach 7) and an F cup and Backbore (Bach 5-ish)
I need a 7-sh rim and Doug was the only modern mouthpiece maker that allowed me to have this set-up . You could come up with your own odd set=up with Doug or , seriouslt , look for the Jet tone Studio D, because that sounds exactly what you are looking for
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Silver rimmed, gold cupped mouthpiece on: Nov 09, 2017, 12:35PM
On Euphonium I use a Schilke Silver plated 46D rim on a gold plated 51 underpart.
A couple years ago I sold to a fellow forum member a silver 46D rim with a Gold plated 51B underpart
The 46D/51 combo works for me
12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Best Large Bore B flat/F on: Nov 05, 2017, 01:07PM
I have an Amazing Bach 42BO that I wouldn`t trade for any thing.
I`ve tried the Boutique brands and nothing like this horn. I got lucky I guess
13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: AR Resonance Mouthpieces on: Nov 03, 2017, 08:47AM
I`m becoming interested in these. I play (mostly) a Bach 7C.
Do they have a similar rim and how does the cup compare?
I really like the sound and feel of my 7C`s but.... being the gear geek that I am
has anyone played a 7C -ish model?
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Olds Opera on: Nov 02, 2017, 11:26AM
I thought Bill Pierce played on a Bach 12 not a 12C. But I might be wrong
15  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: 1966 Bach Strad 16 - Very good original condition on: Nov 01, 2017, 11:05AM
I recently purchased a 1966 Bach 12 and it has a beautiful Dark patina to it.
16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Do you have trumpet suggestions? on: Oct 26, 2017, 05:07PM
One of the BEST bargain trumpets now is a 1950`s or `60`s Olds Ambassador.
I know a lot of trumpet players that have been picking them up because they really really play big and free
17  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Your Opinion; Bach 36G w/Silver Slide - Option, Custom or Mismatch? on: Oct 26, 2017, 06:57AM
Most 36 players that I know fall into 3 subsets
1) Yellow Brass bell and Standard weight slide
2) Gold Brass Bell and Light weight (Nickel ) slide
3) Yellow Bell and light weight slide

I`ve rarely seen  Gold Brass bell and standard weight slide  although they do exist .
That is the set-up I would use for a Brass Quintet setting (If I could)
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Concerns regarding various grip aids on: Oct 20, 2017, 06:29PM
I have the Axe handle on my 42BO and my Yamaha 321 Bass and there is NO effect on the sound at all as far as dampening it.
The only effect on the sound is that I can hold the horns for an awful lot longer with the handles and my shoulder doesn`t bother me so much.
Everything effects the horn in some minute way. so does holding the horn. But the Axe handle does make holding it much easier.
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: .500/.525 on: Oct 16, 2017, 07:16AM
We had (or Have) about 6 of these at the school I used to teach at.
They have lasted much longer than I thought they would
20  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: .500/.525 on: Oct 16, 2017, 04:31AM
That`s the same bore configuration as the Conn 32H
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