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1  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: Nice Elkhart Conn 88H on: Yesterday at 10:30 AM
Still available, willing to hear reasonable offers as well!  (Not interested in trades generally, however if you've got a really nice single valve bass, I may be interested).

Also, best way to contact me is email, steveaward@gmail.com
2  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: Nice Elkhart Conn 88H on: Sep 11, 2017, 11:16AM
Forgot to mention, I can throw in a Conn counterweight to go with it, if so desired. 
3  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: Nice Elkhart Conn 88H on: Sep 08, 2017, 03:54PM
Also, if you are in the Baltimore/D.C./NOVA area, you can come play test the horn if you'd like!
4  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / FS: Nice Elkhart Conn 88H on: Sep 08, 2017, 03:54PM
For sale, an Elkhart 88H, in really nice shape.

Please see the link below for pictures, this horn is in pretty great condition for its age, no significant dents, only a few minor dings  on the throat of the bell and the tuning slide.  Mechanical condition is superb, and there is no loss of plating on the stockings (pretty rare for Elkhart Conns, in my experience).  The most conspicuous flaw is a good amount of pitting on the gripped areas of the slide, this horn was clearly played a LOT.  If that bothered you, a set of leather grips would cover them up nicely, and this horn would look amazing.

Horn is a great player, plays on the lighter side for a Conn 88H, has a super easy high range.

Comes with the original case, and an interesting mouthpiece.  It's a Vincent Bach Corp 6 1/2 AL, with 88H stamped on the throat.  I am assuming this was meant to better fit a Remington shank.  It fits it very well, but my standard shank Doug Elliott mouthpiece fits it just fine as well.  I normally don't include mouthpieces with horns I sell since everyone has different things that work for their face but it was such an interesting find I thought I would throw it in.

Pictures are here!


$1700 shipping to CONUS included.  I will cover the first $50 of shipping for overseas buyers.

Thanks for looking!
5  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: Olds O-25 Tenor with F Attachment For Sale on: Sep 08, 2017, 10:35AM
I can verify it was sold (I was the buyer).  I think the email address attached to this profile was having issues, I ended up looking him up on Facebook.  Bill was a very good and flexible seller, by the way, in case he puts up anything else on here.
6  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / WTB: Conn Bass Trombone Slide on: Aug 16, 2017, 11:43AM
Looking for a Conn bass slide, modern or Elkhart, either is fine.  Not picky in the least concerning cosmetics (regarding lacquer, I'd prefer something where the bow isn't too smash up), need something where the action is gig ready, but needn't be perfect.

A nice SL6262 would be great, since I'm going for a lighter setup even a SL4762 might work.  Let me know what you got.

Contact me at steveaward@gmail.com
7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Conn 78H Bell With A Bach 36 Slide? on: Aug 04, 2017, 07:11AM
I can't speak to the 78H/36 combo.  But I can speak to the 88H/42 combo.

I once bought an 8H bell section on eBay.  Really nice bell section actually, but I was frustrated because my 88H slide would not fit properly.  On a lark, I tried a 42 slide, and lo and behold, perfect fit.  Someone had refitted it to accept a 42 slide at some point.  Why?  I'll never know (it was from a pawn shop). 

Tuning WAS an issue, but not as much as you might think, it wasn't too difficult to adjust to.  But what was an issue was the sound was just completely dull and lifeless.  I think this is the problem with the frankenbone concept, the horn is designed as a whole, and while you might stumble on a unique combo that works GREAT, ocassionally you'll find a real dud.  I think that was the case of with the 8H/42 slide.  Maybe something about the larger crook on the 42 slide didn't jive with the 2-piece, red brass bell?  (Plenty of people have that kind of setup with a Shires or Edwards, and it seems to work pretty well)  Who knows. 
8  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: Strangest looking mute I've ever seen... on: Jul 19, 2016, 12:32PM
I've sold a lot on eBay, so yes, I know about the one picture thing.  But I would think at the very least find a stock picture of the item you're selling?
9  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Strangest looking mute I've ever seen... on: Jul 19, 2016, 08:42AM
At least based on the pictures.  Wouldn't you agree?

10  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: "Sound" of brands on: May 05, 2016, 07:31AM
Part of this will depend on the configuration of the Rath.  Not all, but I would say probably of the majority of the Rath R4s out there are configured to be very much like a Conn 88H.  You can get a Rath in all sorts of different combinations, but nearly all of the used ones I've seen have been setup this way.  I think it's just the sound and feel that most people who are drawn to Rath are after.  So if you do find a Rath that has a red-brass bell, narrow-width slide, and all the other "Conn-like" elements, you're going to have a horn that is very similar to the 88H.  In my experience, it will play significantly easier than the Conn, but the sound will likely be similar.  Some of the VERY best Elkhart Conns might have a "richer" sound than the Rath, but a modern 88HCL will likely be very similar.

And it is true, the Lindberg valve is VERY much a "love or hate" thing.  Personally, they are my favorite valves on the market.  I've played Thayers, Hagmanns, traditional rotors, Rotax, the old Bach "K" valve, everything.  For me, something about the Lindberg really works for me.  Other people just despise them.  They really are the cilantro of trombone valves.

If I were picking between the horns sight unseen, it would be difficult.  Since it's hard to find a music store where anymore where you can play an assortment of horns, that's often the reality though.  The 88HCL is probably a bit more of a roll of the dice, but if I were on a budget I'd probably give that serious consideration.  The Rath is nice because you can always swap out parts (though be warned, if you want a new part, you'll probably have to buy it new, it is VERY difficult to find used parts for a Rath, unlike Shires and Edwards).
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Olds Opera Nickel Silver Straight Large Bore on: Feb 09, 2016, 06:33AM
Great horns, I wish they were more of them floating around.  I've only ever played the model with the f-attachment though, as well as its cousin the O-25 (which features a red brass bell rather than the nickel).  Somewhat Elkhart 88H-like, but definitely with its own vibe.  The response I've heard from fellow players sitting in front of the bell is that they don't seem to project as easily as more modern horns, but that just means a little more work. 
12  Teaching & Learning / Composition, Arranging and Theory / Re: Who arranges for John Williams? on: Dec 18, 2015, 05:20AM
I am fairly certain John Williams does his own orchestrating.  I think for him, it is as much a part of the craft as the actual composing.

That said, obviously there have been composers who don't follow that model.  George Gershwin immediately comes to mind, but there are many others.
13  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: Some nice Conn horns on Ebay on: Dec 09, 2015, 01:58PM
I've dealt with him several times and have not had any serious issues.

Same here.

I haven't paid enough attention to the 12H market to make a comment on that price, but the price for the Elkhart 88H seems very reasonable to me, for that horn in that condition.
14  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: Project Olds P-22 Bass on eBay on: Nov 06, 2015, 07:17AM
I always wondered how you can expect to sell such a niche item as a trombone as local pick-up only.  If you were talking about a run of the mill student horn, I can maybe see it, but I would consider this particular combination of instruments to be almost a niche within a niche.

By the way, I'd love to get my hands on that Olds, if anyone is near La Mesa, CA and would be willing to pick these puppies up and ship them, I'd be more than willing to pay you a fair fee in addition to the cost of shipping.
15  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: Is this price for real?! on: Oct 22, 2015, 04:46PM
Bubbachet, I would love to hear your review on this.  I have a student who is looking for a horn, and I actually referred him to the Blessing B88.  If this thing is the real deal, I think this would be a better proposition for him than rolling the dice on eBay with a used one.

*EDIT - I should say I initially tried to sell him on seeking out a nice .525 horn, but his band director was having none of that mess, but that could open up a whole new can of worms, and I just wanna hear about this horn.
16  Creation and Performance / The Healthy Trombonist / Re: Losing Weight Fast on: Oct 08, 2015, 12:09PM
I'm currently active duty Navy (not as a musician), and have been in 14 years, and have deal with this issue a coulpe of time.  I had to lose about the same amount of weight when I first joined.

3 pounds can fit in within the healthy range of weight loss, but it is at the very end of that, I wouldn't want to lose any MORE than that a week.

However, I've found whenever I begin a cutting regimen, I usually get a "boost" at the front end where I can lose up to 10 pounds in the first week.  Now, understand this is of course going to be almost entirely water weight.  However, as far as military body composition standards are concerned, weight is weight.

Also, do you have to make weight by the date of the audition?  I.e. will you immediately begin basic training upon being accepted?  It could be you have a bit more slack there that can help reduce that "pounds per week" burden.  But I'm unfamiliar with how the band program in the military works.

The reality is, weight loss for the military is different than normal weight loss.  A few years ago I found myself in a situation where I had put on a few pounds, and for an upcoming weigh-in (we do them twice a year in the Navy), I had to lose some significant poundage quickly.  The unfortunate reality is to do it sufficiently quickly, I had to do it in a manner that was not sustainable for the long-term, and probably not healthy, but it worked.  Then immediately after, I gained a portion of it back, but it bought me some time to get back on my feet and re-lose it in a more sustainable, healthful way.  That was just the reality.  But it teaches you an important lesson, and once you have to do some very unpleasant things to lose weight for a body comp, it's generally sufficient motiviation to keep you from ever getting in that situation again.
17  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Solid Gold Horns? on: Sep 06, 2015, 05:31AM
That makes more sense.  I have a few gold bars, each roughly the size of  a fingernail, and they run about $1200 a pop. It would take way more than ten of them to make a trombone.  Honestly I think it would take more than a hundred, I think it would take several hundred.
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Solid Gold Horns? on: Sep 05, 2015, 08:32PM
It does make me giggle that a solid gold trombone would STILL cost less than high-end versions of many string and woodwind instruments.
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Slide crook replacement on: Aug 31, 2015, 03:58PM
I'm not sure if it was one of the Brassark ones or not, but I did once play a 42B that was otherwise stock that had a nickel crook and to me, it was a huge improvement.  I think, assuming you get one of the ones that's assembled properly, it's hard to beat a stock 42B, but the nickel crook is probably one of the few mods I'd make.  It almost makes me wonder why they don't do it on their stock horns.
20  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Jazz Horns on: Aug 24, 2015, 05:14PM
If you want something a little smaller, I'd see if I could try a 2B.

I play mostly orchestral stuff, and I tend to struggle a little on small bore horns, but oddly enough, I find the 2B easier than the 3B.
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