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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: BAC Bass for $9000??? on: Yesterday at 03:53 PM
Probably Ashton Kutcher

"You've been punked !!!!"
2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Thein tenor setup on: Jul 23, 2017, 11:27AM
So it sounds like the "Universal Tenor" ?

I think it depends on the person. For me the Universal sounded wider/bigger, more rounded articulations IIRC


I asked and the Bel Canto is .547 btw
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Thein tenor setup on: Jul 23, 2017, 01:01AM
Wouldn't disagree. Maybe Jalapeņo plans to work with them exclusively. Just pointing out the few number of players that play Thein. I didn't say no one played them.

On the same tangent, also like Tony Wise, I have an Edwards and two bells, in case it's needed
He mentioned for like really loud sounds the Edwards might be more appropriate. Other situations too, I'm sure (all Edwards section ? Etc)

Minus a valve.....if anyone has one  :-P
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Thein tenor setup on: Jul 22, 2017, 09:37PM
Excellent posts so far.  What is the bore size of the slide?  Is the horn used?  What's going on with the slide crook?  Looks like the lacquer got chewed up.

I don't know they bore but I will guess .547. They have made this American style if that makes sense.

It's new, built about 3 weeks ago. That's tape residue to keep it from getting scratched !  Way cool
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Thein tenor setup on: Jul 22, 2017, 09:14PM
Wouldn't disagree. Maybe Jalapeņo plans to work with them exclusively. Just pointing out the few number of players that play Thein. I didn't say no one played them.

Part of three reason I got the horn is for better lead in a section and playing solos. For that I think I'm covered.

I had no problem tooting duets with my friend playing second ! (Very nice lows....centered)

Fwiw
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Thein tenor setup on: Jul 22, 2017, 06:06PM
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/szs0z8njiavzfmx/AAD6YOoWYAfiU-acvqekWh6pa?dl=0

Follow up:

Tony Wise delivered my horn to my office this morning, with Zachary Bond in tow.

He brought both the screw and regular detachable red bell, but of course I chose the screw 😙

The case is a Marcus Bonna, and the horn fits very nice.

I'll continue to use my Reunion Blues, Bc as a backpack setup it is more comfortable. Not hard and rigid
I'll use the MB if I travel, probably. It comes with a neat cloth folder that's zips onto the case and has straps for a bone stand

The trigger is the most close to open as I've felt on any valve.

The little bumps are called dots, and they experimented with the number and placement of them on the horn. There's a group on the bell section and also on the slide.

The counterweight is badas

Th slide is single bore.

It's made more like an American horn.

One leadpipe was included and I didn't care for characteristics, just the way it played.

Etc !
7  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / WTB valve section for Edwards large bore on: Jul 19, 2017, 06:25PM
Title says it.

Reply in this thread

or

shoot me a message

Thanks, sonny boy/girl
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Thein tenor setup on: Jul 16, 2017, 10:24PM
I also tried about 5 or 6 leadpipes. All screw-in

The small bore and Alto had what would be pressfit

Apparently there are more options in Germany ! I'd like to go someday

I tested horns for a few hours, we went out for chicken wings, and went back and played a few more hours
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Thein tenor setup on: Jul 16, 2017, 09:48PM
Coincidentally, the model that worked best for me was the same one I played at ITF. It is the Bel Canto model. I suppose it can be dubbed the Peter Steiner model; he helped develop it, and he played a wonderful recital at ITF.

Tony Wise was a gracious host. Got some great stories and advise from them.

There were 5 models at Thein House Texas: three large tenors, a small bore, and an alto. I was consumed with the large tenors so that is all I played. The first two I tried (one was the Universal) had screw bells, which is what I will choose. The Marcus Bonna (spelling ?) case is in the neighborhood of $700 so I might look elsewhere, but Tony said he's put it in regular holding on a plane with no extra padding and no problems. That sounds good.

I drove from San Antonio to Austin but I had a short warmup beforehand. When I got there I played a few Brad Edward's Lip Slurs on my horn, then played the large models. I enjoyed the colors possible on them right away. The middle horn (don't remember the model name) had a kranz on the bell, and one of those springs in the slide. The spring thing threw me for a loop...just not used to it. The last model I tried was the Bel Canto. It was more unique, with promise of colors and better articulation than my BachGreenhoe. High range was different, but not impossible. The valve sound was awesome, as was the connection of Db to F in Organ Symphony. Overall, sound was the biggest difference. It was refined. The slide was great. I tried three valve caps and the medium was best. There was also a "longer" tuning slide but there weren't major intonation issues so we skipped that.

I played A la maniere de Bach and Stravinsky, a rochut down the octave, and excerpts.

On my usual Greg Black New York 5M

Etc
10  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: The eBay scams are back... on: Jul 16, 2017, 09:26PM
They're hacked accounts. 

I've reported some of these today from that same "seller" but eBay is a little slow to remove them.

It has been removed.

eBay can be hacked and altered to that degree ?

Impressive.....most impressive
11  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: The eBay scams are back... on: Jul 13, 2017, 10:03PM
I wonder how he/she/it got their feedback so high

and at
99.9%
12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Thein tenor setup on: Jul 11, 2017, 07:19PM
Just remember to bring a few different mouthpieces you use. Not every horn plays nice with the mouthpiece you think is best.

Good luck!

you are correct ! when I played the one Thein horn at their booth, I was trying out mouthpieces bc I won a raffle for a Thein piece !
I tried them blind and choose a Thein PW - 5GS

extenuating circumstances (special lunch with Bill Watrous), I didn't have with me my own Greg Black

Thein also had a line of I think Japanese pieces, and one I did like, and was plated something like Rose-Gold. Maybe Peter Steiner models ? btw his recital was awesome. he plays in Vienna

also btw they should have all the bells and whistles for each model - bells, slides, leadpipes, valves....you know. I am verily eager
13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Thein tenor setup on: Jul 11, 2017, 06:39PM
this Sunday I will make the short drive to Austin, TX to be setup for a Thein large-bore tenor. I will possibly walk away with a horn or an order

leading up to it, I will prepare music that I wish to play while trying out the different setups, including excerpts, solos, etudes, exercises, etc

I have a few reasons for wanting to possibly change horns, and the one horn I did try at ITF I liked.

Since playing all manner of Thein tenors isn't always easy to coordinate, if you have questions about Thein horns or the process for testing their horns I'll be happy to find out

also, if you have any advice for trying out horns and don't mind sharing, please chime

- Sam
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Sudden Change in Shires Slide on: Jul 11, 2017, 05:41PM
for reference, while away from home for the past two weeks and after playing outdoors (which I really don't like doing because of dirt and such in the air, but music building wan't open in the early hours), I also bathed my slide in the tub. I used hotter than luke-warm water, and Old Spice "swagger" body wash because that was all I had besides Axe body wash. I soaked for 30+ minutes and used a snake, rinsed well, and no problems with slide motion or lacquer. Use that warranty !

can't hurt to get a brand new or fixed slide straight from Shires !
15  Teaching & Learning / Schools, Colleges and Conservatories / Re: Pokorny Low Brass Seminar on: Jul 07, 2017, 12:52PM
He's a great teacher and fine player

Terrific
16  Teaching & Learning / Schools, Colleges and Conservatories / Re: Pokorny Low Brass Seminar on: Jul 07, 2017, 09:06AM
Ian Bousfield is here today ! Maybe tomorrow also  Eeek! Way cool

17  Teaching & Learning / Schools, Colleges and Conservatories / Pokorny Low Brass Seminar on: Jul 06, 2017, 09:43PM
I just want to make a shoutout to this awesome seminar, still two days remaining

The faculty is
Trombones: Andrew Glendening, Jeremy Wilson, Tim Higgins, Randall Hawes
Tubas: Sergio Carolino, and Scott Southerland.
And fantastic accompanists

Everyday goes like this:
Warmup
Faculty section orchestral excerpts
Masterclass/coaching
Masterclass/clinic
Masterclass/coaching 2
Faculty recital

Tomorrow is participant orchestral section coaching 😙🎶

I came as a participant/performer by audition. There is a mock audition on Saturday.
The other players are also talented and on the path to teaching and playing

These faculty really know their stuff. I've learned things that will STICK

.....a perfect segue to the Fall semester at school !
18  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Till Eulenspiegel on: Jul 02, 2017, 11:30PM
Slow, half speed maybe. Get it right multiple times, move up the metronome incrementally

Try without tongue, just natural slurs and gliss

Varying dynamics

Have a good time
19  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: Who's going to ITF Redlands???!!!??? on: Jun 10, 2017, 02:15AM
I will be there...

I looked at the program.....it's stacked ! I'm not looking forward to deciding which recitals/masterclasses I will attend

I'll be there! Looking forward to meeting up with a bunch of forum peeps! Who's going to be there?

will you bring horns ?

I might want to buy a new large-bore and I'll make time to try some horns, including your horn(s)
20  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / SOLD Re: FS Bach NY 12 mpc GOLD plated on: Jun 09, 2017, 05:25PM
sorry didn't see that reply. sold on ebay
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