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1  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: lengthening an instrument a tiny bit changes the scale on: Today at 01:24 PM
Does this mean that drastic changes of the tuning slide on a trombone SHOULD also affect the distances between slide positions? We have good ears so we can usually adjust, but if the same slide positions (1-7) relative were measured to being in tune, and then the slide was pulled to tune the instrument way down and then the same distances were used between positions, would those positions be out of tune in comparison to the first tuning??
2  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Merging groups on: Yesterday at 05:24 PM
Right into the thick of it:

Has anyone ever, as a bandleader, been involved in a process of merging two groups together for a performance? That is, for example, 2 smaller horn sections or half-big bands put together to perform together?

That's sort of the spot I'm in right now. It's tough to explain "why" and "how" it's coming about for my band and another to perform together, but it's happening nonetheless, and I'm just looking for some tips on how I can make it easy and painless - should I let the other leader do the leading? How do we make sure to play the same stylistically and not take too many different freedoms?  :-0 :-0

This actually makes me slightly anxious - It's not "soon" that it's happening, perhaps 3 or 4 months down the road, but I want to be fully prepared for whatever might happen.

3  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: What's In Your Case? on: Yesterday at 09:28 AM
I'm not sure what's in my case because there are too many cases :3

But one of the coolest things I've snagged came from a kit for an iPhone screen protector- it's this long, narrow 4" or 5" spray bottle about 1.5" in diameter. It fits SUPER well in any case or in-pocket and I fill it with water since I'm a Trombotine-user.
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Recommend a microphone for iOS device (iPhone/iPad)? on: Yesterday at 06:16 AM
That Shure you're looking at is probably really nice. I haven't tested myself but also hearing great things about the Zoom iQ5 microphone, and it costs about half that of the Shure.

Ultimately the best is to find audio clips of the mics in different settings (easily done from YouTube reviews even if that's technically compressed/lossy audio) and see which one seems to have the best audio quality for how much you're willing to spend.

Happy hunting!  Good!
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Trying to identify old microphones on: Jan 21, 2018, 01:10AM
The bodies look like Astatic JT-8 mikes but have a rounded screen.  I don't know about "generic". 
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Astatic-JT-8-Dynamic-Cardioid-Microphone-and-25-Cord-with-XLR-Connector-Ends/253357851696?hash=item3afd4e0430:g:xysAAOSww85aVSyg.  I have plenty of other brand name mikes (Shure, Audio-Technica, CAD) and if I sell these would like to be able to tell the buyer what they are.

Same seller is also selling a "JT-17" from the same manufacturer that has a larger round windscreen like your mics, but in black instead of grey. That may be your winner!
6  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Saliva... in my sound? on: Jan 20, 2018, 08:17AM
This here is just what helped me... on trumpet, when saliva would build like crazy in my mouth ;

Loads of long tones... working on tone consistency, listening for the SOUND and letting my chops/mouth gravitate towards the overall setup that prevented a saliva-ey SOUND. For me it ended up being actually not tied to my hydration, but the way I was using my air and embouchure that was creating some sort of "steam"/condensation build-up at the chops.

It might well be hydration thought. This is JUST my two cents tho - take it with a half-grain of salt! More experienced people will chime in and probably disprove me, but this worked for me :)
7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Trying to identify old microphones on: Jan 20, 2018, 06:46AM
I'm on the hunt, gregs! I wanna know too.

I feel like the world of microphones in incredibly deep, and VERY difficult to wade around because most of the mics that are popular now - Neumann U87, C414, SM57/8, Ev RE20 for just a completely random handful of the top of my head - are mics that have dominated pro-industry usage for so many decades that other manufactures are pushed  into obscurity before their names/products were even recognizable.

In a bit of a recording nut though, so I'll keep digging and let you know if I find anything!!!  Good!

How do the mics themselves perform, anyhow? Worth the buy?
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Youtubers/multitrackers... how's it done? on: Jan 18, 2018, 03:40PM
Thanks for the quick response, Bill!

Audio is actually my specialty-  my bigger issue is with setting up for good picture/video and how to go about presentation for YouTube.

Thanks again tho  Good!
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Youtubers/multitrackers... how's it done? on: Jan 18, 2018, 02:21PM
Hi fellas,

For those of you who do or have done multitrack videos of arrangements on YouTube... what is your typical process?

I've been planning for months to boot my for-fun YouTube channel (just to document my growth as an instrumentalist and arranger), as well as provide a place for myself and others to learn more about all things music. It'd primarily consist of multi-tracked videos of me playing my own arrangements of originals and popular music.

I'm very active in the home studio, so I REALLY like my recordings as "perfect" pre-editing as they can be. Following that I DO like to edit/composite multiple takes to get the best of what I've played, but that VERY rarely, if ever, coincides with my video footage because they're not edited "together". I find that it's difficult to do a good job recording the video and saving multiple takes WHILE trying to actively record the arrangement and keep the highest quality of playing.

So is there a lot of faking involved? Ought I learn to play a 100% perfect take? (note: yes, I should... but I'm not there yet)
Or should I try recording, editing and mixing the tune and THEN recording a sort of "pantomimed" video afterwards?
Or I could stick to just recording and producing the full tracks and then slapping up the score instead of trying to do video as well.

Feels like cheating is involved but I'm low on good options here, and this is something I've been interested in pursuing for a while!
10  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: How far can you get alone? on: Jan 15, 2018, 07:15PM
.......maybe. I have been paid to mow lawns before. Doesnt mean I am a professional gardener.

BUT If you made a living mowing lawns, even at a subpar level with home lawncare equipment, what then? Are you not doing it professionally? Would that not make you a professional in the technical sense of the word?

And who's to say the the guy I mentioned in the example above DOESN'T play on a "professional level" and just happened to strike that "luck" that Tom mentioned?  Clever
11  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: How far can you get alone? on: Jan 15, 2018, 06:32PM
Perhaps think of it statistically. If you have played for twenty years and only ever had one lesson, are you self taught? Having a lesson or three could be thought of as being resourceful, rather than having had instruction. Is gathering resources from this Forum considered to be "instruction"?

That's what I'm getting at - regular instruction with relatively short time between each lesson. Otherwise, a really constant flow of new information from a working pro who probably did the same thing to become a pro.

That versus a guy who takes 1 lesson a year for 15 years and is a strictly by-ear player, playing with a band and some hole-in-the-wall and being paid to perform. He IS by all means a "professional player" by my definition. Maybe he doesn't play as well as someone we'd consider to play on a professional level - but he's putting food on the table as a pro musician just like a drag racer and a postman are both professional drivers even though one's driving may take a higher level of precision and skill.
12  Teaching & Learning / Composition, Arranging and Theory / Composer-arrangers : Do you NEED a strong melody? on: Jan 15, 2018, 03:40PM
Hey guys,
so for those of you who arrange your own compositions ... do any of you ever start arranging from "nothing" or very little melodic content, essentially creating the melody for a piece as you arrange?

I find myself often writing an awesome punchy intro or some cool fills over chords without having written a melody, and then it's MINDBLOWINGLY tough, both to create a compelling melody OVER cool brass punches in the background, AND to sever myself from my love of what I've written prior to writing the melody (and to be willing to change/cut it if needbe).

I think my struggle comes from that I can make a good big band arrangement for an existing melody, but I don't seem to have a strong sense for creating GOOD melodies, and I really love arranging music above all else. I like composition but part of what grieves me is exactly THAT my melodies are never all that great to begin with - and when I shoehorn a mediocre melody into an already-intersting arrangement the product is almost ALWAYS better than when I try to write a leadsheet (or for ex. melody and chords alone) first and THEN make an arrangement around it.

Maybe I'm locking my brain too much into the "final" melody when really it ought to be more fluid for the sake of arranging? No clue...  Don't know Any thoughts on this?
13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: School's Bass Trombone Having Tuning Issues on: Jan 15, 2018, 08:50AM
How did you miss that?

 Amazed Amazed Whoops, I read that wrong as " It turned out it wasn't strung incorrectly "

I also figured there couldn't have been any other possibility so when I saw that (and read it wrong) it really had me curious lol. Thanks for highlighting it, Bill.  Good!
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: School's Bass Trombone Having Tuning Issues on: Jan 14, 2018, 08:27PM
Yeah E.... got me so curious afater a whole page of a thread and two videos and then there no payoff!!! 
:D :D Evil
15  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: New Wessex PBF565 bass trombone on: Jan 14, 2018, 08:18PM
Ahh, okay, thanks for expanding, Dave and Chris! Had no idea. Looks at the very least like a nice horn  Good!
16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: New Wessex PBF565 bass trombone on: Jan 14, 2018, 09:56AM
How's it stack up against the 562? Or is it a reconfiguration/redesign with the same specs?

I may pick one up in a couple years.
17  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Conducting styles on: Jan 13, 2018, 09:46AM
....wait a minute! What?? Huh??
How can one be a strong singer if one is incapable of hearing? I need clarification on this!!!


Same  Amazed Eeek! :-0
18  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Avoid the burnout... on: Jan 13, 2018, 09:04AM
Seems there is ALWAYS more ground to cover... even with golf, (lauriet!! :D )
Of course there's also the law of diminishing returns once you hit a certain point - but again, there's always new skills to be learned, more knowledge to be gained, new things to discover.... knowing that - though it may be frustrating sometimes when things don't seem like they're working out - can often help me avoid burning out.
19  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Comparing trombone playing to trumpet playing on: Jan 13, 2018, 09:00AM
Are some people more naturally inclined to play trumpet vs. bone (or the other way around) because of the size/shape of their lips? I remember going in to start band at the end of 6th grade and they handed me a trumpet mouthpiece and a trombone mouthpiece. I blew on both and decided I like trombone better. At the time, I don't know why I made that choice, but it must have felt better on my face. I do tend to play a very large rim size on bone (schilke 53 or similar). Maybe that is why I am having a hard time with that itty bitty trumpet mp.

I can attest to that I was playing on a 14B4/3C (all-arounder like our 6.5al, for those wondering), and immediately noticed a HUGE improvement in tone quality and ease of sound production when I switched to a 1.5C (I guess I'd say... sort of like our 3G maybe?) obviously at the loss of a couple notes up top but those came back in a week. Just my experience, though.

I ordered one of those PETE things today too. I have to at least give this a few months before raising the surrender flag and admitting that trumpet players have better chops than me.

I have a PETE - used it frequently for a while and saw good improvement in my playing, but haven't touched it much lately, and now it lies in my mouthpiece pouch. I ought to break it back out.
20  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: How far can you get alone? on: Jan 11, 2018, 06:21PM
You will never understand what a FFF from Norman Bolter is like by watching a video.

Fair point.

My post was mostly in relation to the newer player who just wants to play for their own enjoyment.

Hopefully someone who really puts in the time will also attend concerts and HEAR what it's like live - and eventually be spurred on to take lessons to REALLY begin to improve with focused, detailed work on things that CAN'T be learned online.

But for the amateur player just playing for friends at home, with no intention to even ever play with other live, there is certainly enough information to get THAT person skilled enough to have fun with the right practice.

But that's just me!!
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