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1  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Articulation on "New York, New York" on: Today at 10:55 AM
All good thoughts!
I'm actually playing trumpet in this group (rather than bone) - we're doing a group of 3 and 3 - 2 trumpets and a trombone and three saxes. Figured it'd be a lot more useful having two trumpet and one bone rather than one trumpet and two (especically given our lead player isn't the most self-confident player ever. I think he could use the support from a second trumpet.)

I think I just need to spend a lot more time digging into the official recordings and "playing it by ear"- literally taken :)

Really digging the tips here though... Keep 'em coming! Giving me a lot of ideas on how bandleading and group sound-concept should be conveyed.
2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Cheap Alto Trombones on: Today at 05:11 AM
Tried the pBone mini... didn't like it personally. The sound is *okay*, has a slight plasticiness to its tone (to be expected), but even moreso when you're behind the horn I noticed. Plus I don't really like the lightweightness of the horn, and the slide on the one I played hadn't been sanded or anything so it was awful. It would be okay for just learning the fingerings and stuff on alto, but I wouldn't ever take it out of the practice room.
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Clothside case that fits large OR small bore? on: Today at 04:44 AM
If you are feeling a bit richer...  The BAM Classic is one of the best cases I have owned.  I have put small, medium, and large bore horns in it with success.  Narrow slide, wide slide, whatever.  Backpackage and lightweight...

Looks wonderful! Not sure if I can justify that cost when I'm playing more bass and trumpet than trombone these days. Good suggestion, though
4  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Articulation on "New York, New York" on: Today at 04:42 AM
Imitate "precisely."

I'll take it....  :/
5  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Articulation on "New York, New York" on: May 26, 2017, 02:39PM
Listen to Sinatra, don't ask here.

That's always a good idea.

Make it sound like a phrase, not like you're accenting some notes and not others.

That's what I've been doing - just figured there was someone who had a bit more experience who could give a more specific direction on how it might precisely be done. Me and my people definitely make it one well-played phrase, but there's some unclarity as to where the emphasis should be placed within the phrase.
6  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Articulation on "New York, New York" on: May 26, 2017, 01:10PM
Hey guys, just curious about the intro to Theme from New York New York...

The intro is notated " 1 2 3 + 4 ".
I'm just mostly curious about where the accents should lie and which notes should be "swallowed" a bit. I'm under the impression that the focus should be the 1, 2, and the +, but I just want to make sure I'm doing it stylistically correctly.
7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Clothside case that fits large OR small bore? on: May 26, 2017, 01:04PM
I have a MAX MX306CT that fits a large bore with F. 

Thanks for checking... this is brilliant! Looks like exactly what I need.
With this, I'd be able to get rid of my incredibly beat-up, just-about-unsueable wooden Olds case, stick that in the Yamaha case, then use this alternatively for storing the large bore while using the other horn, or stick the large bore in it's own case when necessary.

Thanks again, guys  Hi :D
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Clothside case that fits large OR small bore? on: May 25, 2017, 03:25PM
[really  like  the  new  protec  MAXX  
 not  pricy    trim   /not heavy  //
done 4  already for  replacing tired  cases 

<Edit: Fixed Quote>

I've actually been heavily considering this since all other Protecs I've seen and owned have been fabulous cases. I'll look into that one!
Thanks guys! Maybe there something with removable padding that I can add in when taking the small bore... I'll take a deeper dive and see what I can find.
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Clothside case that fits large OR small bore? on: May 22, 2017, 12:57PM
Hey, trombretheren!

I'm on the lookout for a case that I can use interchangeably for my large AND small bore. When I'm performing, I 100% of the time take with me one OR the other horn and leave the other on a stand at home. I've got little real estate for so many cases, and my Olds (backup small bore) has a beat up old case that I don't really want to have around anymore, so I'm looking for a nice cloth-side hard case that I'd be able to put a large OR small bore in dpepending on what i'm taking with me.

Any suggestions? Is it a thing?
10  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: How to break the news to a sub on: May 03, 2017, 05:44PM
Thanks a lot for the different (or rather, same) viewpoints, guys! And thanks for not making fun of me for coming with this... I knew many of you guys had been in these kind of situations and knew what might be the best way to handle it.

I told our primary he had until a certain date to come with a definite answer - and if it's still a "maybe" by that date, it counts as a "no", and we'll use our sub.

Thanks again, guys!  :D
11  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / How to break the news to a sub on: May 02, 2017, 03:56PM
Hey folks, I'm doing a small group of two trumpets and trombone, plus and alto, tenor, and a bari. We've got a really good tenor saxophonist lined up to play (studying jazz), but he's not entirely sure he'll be available for this performance. We're looking at getting a sub, as we have potential candidates, but there're both many tunes and many difficult tunes for this performance and so we'd want someone good first.

But if we did talk to a sub (as they'll prefereably need adequate practice time), how could we break it to them that "our high-teir player said he'd show up, so you won't be playing"- kinda thing? I'd hate to have someone practice on so much repertoire only to be told they won't be playing.

(Bear in mind, this is a church group, so that'll give an idea of some of the relative skill levels of players and such)

Thanks!
12  Teaching & Learning / Composition, Arranging and Theory / Re: Leadsheet for New York, New York on: May 01, 2017, 05:48PM
for the future, if you want to see bass lines and instrument parts, just about every moderately-known tune has a MIDI version to be found somewhere on the web that duplicates some recording of it. No chord notation but that can be deduced from the ensemble.

I thankfully was able to easily find a really good full-band MIDI version of the tune and work from that. Not sure of the legality of such, but then again, if it's so questionable it probably wouldn't be so easily accessible. Plus it's for private use, more or less, non-montized.

Thanks for the great tips, guys! I was able to make a nice short arrangement of Cottontail using a similar method, but I had to write some new parts onto it. Lots of fun! :D
13  Teaching & Learning / Composition, Arranging and Theory / Re: Leadsheet for New York, New York on: Apr 27, 2017, 06:39PM
Its in the realbook volume 5
https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=240349&

If you just want the chords, you can also find them on the iRealPro forums for its app:

https://www.irealb.com/forums/showthread.php?12753-Jazz-1300-Standards

Good call Matt, I'd forgotten I actually have the app! I ended up working it mostly out by ear, but I'll definitely make use of iReal Pro in the future.
14  Teaching & Learning / Composition, Arranging and Theory / Leadsheet for New York, New York on: Apr 27, 2017, 02:29PM
I'm really not sure whether it's legal to ask this here (or at all), but I'm working on a condensed arrangement of Theme from New York, New York, and I'm looking for just perhaps a leadsheet from the original arrangement, or copy of the piano or bass part for the tune.

Thanks!
15  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: What's new in lube? on: Apr 23, 2017, 12:38PM
One thing to consider.  Creams and silicones don't mix.  If you are using Trombotine and put on Slide-O-Mix it gets gummy.  Same in reverse.  If you want to go from a cream to a silicone you have to clean the slide really well.

On the contrary, I've had great success with a layer of Ttrombotine, then Yamaha slide oil over that on 1957 Ambassador. Definitely not gonna work on all horns though  Good!
16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Sexxxy, Hott, and...Heavy! (Favorite Counterweights) on: Apr 21, 2017, 02:47PM
I did this  for my daughter's besson




58mark, looks fantastic :D :D! What's it made of? Heck, that whole end of the horn looks an awful lot like an Ambassador to my eyes.
17  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: How many dents do you tolerate in your horns? on: Apr 21, 2017, 02:35PM
All three of my horns have decent-sized dents in the tuning slides (I've actually posted a couple times about them  :D). I play for fun mostly, and if it still sounds/feels good, it IS good! Dents in the inners or outers obviously don't go at all, and I've yet to be the cause of a dent in a bell of one of my horns.
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: eBay cheap instruments on: Apr 20, 2017, 05:26PM
I had an acquaintance who got a Chinese contrabassoon that he must have spent as much in repair work as he did for the initial instrument and it still did not play well.

I'll admit that something like *this* is surprising considering how much it must have cost, plus given how few manufacturers of contrabassoons and bassoons are out there (like, there's no entry-level!).

I do wonder whether companies that DO make cheap versions of what can be considered "high-profile" instruments (cimbasso, contrabass trombone, contrabassoons - I'm thinking instruments that music majors and professionals would ordinarily be playing) actually make strides TO make instruments of the highest quality they can. Sometimes, it's seems like they actually put in the effort, but unfortunately just don't happen to hit the mark.
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Jazzbone on: Apr 20, 2017, 10:10AM
Has anyone actually seen these played out in the wilderness? Perhaps comic effect/show factor one-offs at actual gigs and stuff? I was highly interested in them when they were first introduced, but I haven't heard of many players actually out there using them at all besides Trent and the few guys around here.
20  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: I recorded with my C-trombone, please comment :-) on: Apr 19, 2017, 07:58AM
Tom, you wouldn't mind posting a couple more photos here?
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