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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: New Wessex PBF565 bass trombone on: Today at 04:51 PM

Is this "old school"? = better suited to a smaller mouthpiece?
(Smaller? Brighter? Crunchier?)

Do you have a similarly-arranged link to a "modern" bass trombone sound/feature, for comparison?

(Thanks for this link!... once I figure out what I'm listening to  :) )
2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: New Wessex PBF565 bass trombone on: Jan 15, 2018, 03:59PM
Indeed, I think this is a very good trombone or I would not have signed it off and allowed my name to be attached to it. Just saying that it is new school, not old school. I would love to get a really nice old school bass together and have not lost the chance.
Let's see how this first one is received.

Chris Stearn

Dumb question:
What does that mean, a new school bass vs. an old school bass?
What are the defining characteristics of each?
If I had an unidentifiable bass trombone in my hands, how would I decide which category it fit into?
3  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Conducting styles on: Jan 14, 2018, 05:55AM
I've noticed at the Dallas Symphony there seem to be eyes on the concertmaster as often as on the conductor among the first string stands.



Reminds me...

I have some friends (good amateurs) who did some kind of music camp for grown-ups, where they spent a week in the summer playing with members of a professional symphony somewhere in the US.

The conductor of this symphony is apparently difficult to follow.

One thing the professional members taught my friends was "LUFU":
Look Up, F-ck Up.

I like that. "LUFU" is now something you'll find occasionally scribbled in my own parts.
4  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Forgotten mouthpiece? on: Jan 12, 2018, 06:56PM
Sunday morning (10:00 am) rehearsal. Arrive, pop the trunk. No trombone. (Forgot it).

I've considered keeping a spare beater horn in the car for exactly this purpose.
...and a spare white shirt, black shirt, black jacket, black shoes, black socks, black pants.
I need a bigger car.





BTW, this might be my favorite thread ever.  :D
5  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / Re: Low C above pedal Bb on: Jan 11, 2018, 07:57PM
How's your B natural?
How's your Db using the second trigger?


...You're not playing low C with a single trigger when you have a double-trigger bass trombone in your hands, are you?
6  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: DBTO 2018 on: Jan 11, 2018, 07:30PM
Asking for a friend: what's DBTO?  Hi
7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Music scanning and reading apps on: Jan 10, 2018, 05:13AM
It really saves the frustration when for example somebody takes the folder home then doesn't show up, or loses it. 

If you didn't have a copy, you'd end up paying for a replacement. *

Oh wait..................................

* If the piece is even still in print/ replaceable.


Simply taking a picture on your phone is usually sufficient for me. No reason to convert to PDF.  The big benefit of PDF is that you can have multiple pages which isn't a big deal if you take a picture of a few measures to shed at home. I've done that for chord changes before.

You clearly need to practice less than I do.  Pant
And tbathras is spot-on. The automated clean-up processes in PDF apps are gold.
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Technology / Re: Music scanning and reading apps on: Jan 09, 2018, 07:52PM
...If I could whip out the smart phone and quick scan a few lines to woodshed at home, that would be very useful.  Less than 10% of a piece for home study is usually fair use. 

I don't read music from my phone, but I use GeniusScan for this purpose. It's useful for groups where I don't keep the books. I scan/save as a PDF and print it later.

...or at least, I used to use GeniusScan, before one of its updates didn't agree with my archaic phone. Still--any "convert to PDF" app should work for this. (It's not a music app, tho.)


If you copy your band music for practice material at home, I don't see an issue. 

Photocopies for performance are a different story.  Clearly illegal. 

We've started "digitizing" music in several of my community bands. It saves the librarians a lot of headaches. We are expressly instructed not to share the digital files, and to destroy physical (and digital) copies after performance.
9  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS: Trombone Mouthpieces on: Jan 09, 2018, 05:23AM
Shanks = all large?
10  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Brushing teeth before practicing? on: Jan 07, 2018, 04:58PM
I started the teeth-brushing-before-playing thing in high school, when I got my "good trombone," and I wanted to keep it in good condition.
(Some talented upperclassman trumpet, who ended up going to NEC, recommended the teeth-brushing thing. I figured he knew a thing or two.)

......

Today at trombone ensemble, the host warmed cider for us during a break. Awww.
"No thank you, not for me," I said. "I don't want to blow sugar through my horn."
He poured me a mug anyway and said, "You can swish your mouth out with water."

I still could have refused, but sometimes you just gotta roll with it.

I swished a LOT of water before playing again.
It wasn't my "good trombone" anyway.  :)
11  Creation and Performance / Trombonists / Re: Roswell Rudd on: Jan 05, 2018, 05:09PM
Something for the listeners--
Caught this on my commute tonight--
NPR (Fresh Air) just replayed Terry Gross's 2002 interview with Roswell Rudd.

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/05/575930368/remembering-roswell-rudd-a-jazz-musician-with-an-ebullient-sound
12  Creation and Performance / The Healthy Trombonist / Re: Shingles on: Jan 01, 2018, 06:56PM
I had a mild episode in college. Stress can screw with your health at any age.

Feel better soon. Hope it clears up quickly.
13  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Forgotten mouthpiece? on: Dec 30, 2017, 08:29AM
I am super paranoid about this. Thus far, my paranoia has paid off.

I keep plastic mouthpieces (one SS, one LS) in my car's cupholder.
Just this past summer, I lent one of those plastic pieces to a sectionmate who forgot his mouthpiece for a gig.

I also keep ~3 mouthpieces in each of my cases.
Came in handy ten years ago when I dropped a mouthpiece (smushing the shank) immediately before a concert.
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: gold rim on: Dec 29, 2017, 01:07PM
Thank you for taking the time to ask, and thank you for posting the answer you got  :)
15  Practice Break / Cool Web Sites / Re: Downstream- Podcast for trombonists, by trombonists! Feat. Alex Iles on: Dec 26, 2017, 06:09AM
Yay!

You posted that as I was typing up an incredibly boring explanation of RSS. Glad I didn't have to make ya'll read that. ;-)

Thank you. Subscribed!
16  Practice Break / Cool Web Sites / Re: Downstream- Podcast for trombonists, by trombonists! Feat. Alex Iles on: Dec 25, 2017, 07:12PM
Cool!!

Any plans for RSS etc. in the future?
17  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Can't believe a trombone player would do this... on: Dec 20, 2017, 09:09PM
I think you nailed it.  Like Dirty Harry said, "A man had got to know his limitations".  Funny thing is he is the first chair tbone in a community orchestra too, again by senority and not ability.  If he knows deep down he can't hack the part, why does he insist on it?

Not an answer, but food for thought:
My mother is getting to be "elderly" and still sings with choirs. First soprano, even though she knows full well she can't hack the part anymore.
She says she can't step down to alto--I get the sense it's a whole 'nother skill set she's just never developed, like asking a lead trombone player to step down to bass 'bone.
"OK, so why don't you sing second soprano?" I ask.
"I do when I can, but I know the first soprano parts," she says.

Don't know



I also know a trumpet player who only plays community pits if he's on first trumpet. You want him playing second trumpet? Nope, he's out, good luck finding someone else.
I guess for some people it just isn't fun unless they get to play first.
18  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Can't believe a trombone player would do this... on: Dec 20, 2017, 07:54PM
Y'know, I'll usually defend anyone, but I'm having trouble with this guy.
My best guess is it simply didn't occur to him the lack of trombones would be a hardship to the band.
Or he figured no trombones at all would sound better than his exposed, less-than-stellar performance.

At least you were around to help out!
19  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Looking for places to try mouthpieces on: Dec 20, 2017, 07:40PM
Hey Matt - If you're on Long Island you could always make a trip down to Dillon Music in Woodbridge, NJ. They stock lots of mouthpieces and I think they have a week trial period on them also.

This is what I was going to say. I did a mouthpiece test there a few years ago. Nothing complicated for me, just an A vs. B test, but they were amenable.

I just checked the website to confirm the week trial period... didn't see that, but I did find this:

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For [mouthpiece] consultations please call (732) 634-3399 or visit our brass store.
Vladimir is available Mon Thurs 10:00 am to 3:00pm

Dillon's is the brass Mecca of the tri-state area. (That's how my college teacher described it to me.) If it's not too far for you (looks like it's 3 hours from Montauk), it's worth a trip if you've never been.
20  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Beginner and newbie question. on: Dec 19, 2017, 06:41PM
What mouthpiece? One that fits the instrument.  Many of us start with the equivalent of a Bach 12C or Bach 6.5AL.  The 6.5AL is larger than the 12C, but for a rank beginner either will do.

I'm not sure if Bruce means a mouthpiece with a character that suits the instrument, or a mouthpiece that literally fits into the mouthpiece receiver.
If he means a mouthpiece that suits the instrument, I wouldn't worry about that right now--just get a 12C or a 6 1/2AL.
If he means a mouthpiece that literally fits into the receiver... for any student horn, make sure that 12C or 6 1/2AL is a SMALL SHANK mouthpiece.1,2

1 "Large shank" mouthpieces are made for larger trombones. If you get a large-shank mouthpiece, it won't fit in your student trombone.
2 Large-shank 12Cs are rare, but large-shank 6 1/2ALs are pretty common.

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