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1  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Nestico Reflective Mood Cadenza on: Oct 18, 2017, 03:39PM


I have been working on throwing a quote from IGSOY in the middle of the written cadenza. The notes line up nicely.

Bear in mind that the notes in the first bar after the cadenza ARE the same notes as IGSOY (in C).

2  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Best Gig Case For a Rath? on: Oct 18, 2017, 08:35AM

However, purely for no reason other than to split hairs, by your reasoning you could just as easily take issue with SKB and criticise their product that no longer suits you.
Has Rath been using their system longer than the SKB 360 has been in production ?


There are countless horns that will fit in an SKB 360 case, and trombone cases are a minuscule part of their business. For them to produce a new case for a specific brand may not be worth their while, but for Rath to make a small change to their design may be worth theirs.
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Best Gig Case For a Rath? on: Oct 16, 2017, 02:10PM
I'm pretty sure he had the skb and got a rath. He's just saying the raths wingnut is the reason it won't fit. Not that Michael Rath is a bad designer for not making a horn that can fit in a particular case

Yes, the wing nut could have been better designed to fit at a different angle and/or shape. I had already owned a SKB 360 case because I was flying to meet cruise ships and sharing cars etc. I didn't want to have to have a bulkier case to fit a smaller instrument because of a simple fixing.

A bigger issue though, is that it's ok to criticise a feature of a product if it doesn't suit you, and I did voice my opinion to Rath management at the time.
4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Best Gig Case For a Rath? on: Oct 16, 2017, 08:18AM
Yes, very stupid of SKB to design a multipuropse case that doesnt take all instruments.  :D

I accept that the SKB 360 is a skinny case made for a specific type of horn, it's the Rath that is at fault.
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Best Gig Case For a Rath? on: Oct 16, 2017, 06:19AM
I used a SKB with my R10 and would remove the "Fawcett" after use and store it in the m/p pocket. Dang stupid design IMO..
6  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: How do you spend your practice breaks? on: Oct 15, 2017, 01:44AM
A lot depends on how and what you practice, and also what stage of competence you're at. If you're practicing below your abilities then that is going to result in a lot of padding and wasted time. But if after a reasonable warmup, you get stuck in and try to achieve a small tangible improvement, that is good practice. Going through the motions and not getting any benefit is falling behind in real terms.
7  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: How do you spend your practice breaks? on: Oct 14, 2017, 08:44AM

When the dog leaves the house, the IQ level inside the house goes up?   :-0  Evil

...Geezer

Hey! Wait a minute, I need to think about that one!..
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Finding/Testing Mouthpieces on: Oct 14, 2017, 08:42AM

Please let me know what suggestions you all have!



Leave well alone until you are driven by a tangible need, or come across a box of old mouthpieces one/some of which shows you a real benefit. That'll give you an idea of the dimensions that are good for you, and then with this experience you'll be able to make better choices when you're ready.
9  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: How do you spend your practice breaks? on: Oct 14, 2017, 08:19AM
I do around an hour every day, but with no long breaks. I use a practice mute exclusively, and take short breaks of a few seconds as and when. Those moments are often spent talking to the dog..
10  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Nestico Reflective Mood Cadenza on: Oct 11, 2017, 03:20AM
I'd advise you to spend some time with the written cadenza, maybe record yourself, and see what you can extract or add to it. It's almost a textbook jazz phrase, so if you're going to put something in it's place, you need to immerse yourself in the genre first.

11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Who in their right mind plays a Bach 1 1/2G ?? on: Oct 11, 2017, 03:03AM
I think they are out there. At the last ATW, in between lethal doses of testosterone-ized bass bones from university tbone choirs, I was kind of stunned by the not just vocal, but conversational style of Max Siebel with WeatherVest. http://weathervest.com/  Really refreshing to see someone who doesn't approach the bass bone as a war hammer. As a bass bone doubler/learner, this guy turned a light on for me. If I can learn to control the sound like that, I'll feel like I've achieved something. Anyone who can make a trombone sound like it fits melodically with a couple of saxophones is brilliant in my book. I mean he wasn't just blasting out whole note pedal fundamentals, he was playing with all the subtlety of a melodic instrument. I'd like to hear Michael Davis https://youtu.be/Vr2Pgudluv8 do an interview with him to hear what he has to say about his approach. Listen to a couple of the tunes on that Weather Vest link. Live it was even better. Check out what they did at ATW https://youtu.be/BdWamsaFPT4?t=6h34m1s  That's at about 6:34 if the link doesn't put you there.

It sounds like you might enjoy a 1970 (very close miked) bass tbn solo by Bill Geldard, "Nelsons Blues" on iTunes.

Bill G was a well established tenor player prior to the bass tbn "boom". I believe he mainly writes for BBB's now.

12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Who in their right mind plays a Bach 1 1/2G ?? on: Oct 10, 2017, 02:58PM
There are still the players out there..... I've taught a few of them  Evil Evil

Chris Stearn

Not a criticism of the players themselves, but the sound concept.
13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Who in their right mind plays a Bach 1 1/2G ?? on: Oct 10, 2017, 01:08PM
For actual sound you have nothing to worry about IMO. I wish more bass trombonists made this type of vocal tone.



I'll get my coat...
14  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Nestico Reflective Mood Cadenza on: Oct 10, 2017, 01:05PM
No chord written, but the tune is in G Major at that point.

What's the instruction given for the cadenza? Ideally it needs to lead into the next section, and S H is playing around a D7. Points to consider are what shape do you want to use, i.e. low to high, high to low etc. What mood are you looking to create, it's a reflective piece so doesn't want to be too flash IMO.
15  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Nestico Reflective Mood Cadenza on: Oct 10, 2017, 11:10AM
So I am going to be doing Sammy Nestico's "Reflective Mood" with my community band next Spring and I was wondering if anyone had come up with a extended cadenza. The written cadenza (first one) is very short and to me it just screams for something longer. I know I could write something myself, but the truth is I am not much of an improviser and was hoping that out there in trombone land there might be a cadenza I could beg borrow or steal. Thanks.

Here's Scott Hartman killing it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5_2z2yx7os

What chord have you got written for the cadenza?
16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Who in their right mind plays a Bach 1 1/2G ?? on: Oct 09, 2017, 02:51PM
Its not good playing but I think it shows the sound. Recorded with an old Zoom Q3.

Leif

For actual sound you have nothing to worry about IMO. I wish more bass trombonists made this type of vocal tone.

17  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: How can I solidify and increase my range? on: Oct 07, 2017, 03:46PM
I have figured out how to play high, and my range tops out at an F currently. Long term goal is the Bb. How do I make this happen?

If you already have a good high F that you can play in a musical context, and importantly not just as a freak note, the others will follow with time and steady practice.
18  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: WTB: High range mpiece on: Oct 07, 2017, 02:41PM
You say you have played on a 6.5AL, a 5G and a DW4AL. Have you thought of trying the DW 9BL. It is around the 6.5 rim size with a shallow cup and has been marketed as an " emergency high note getter" Amazed

Cheers

Stewbones

The DW 9B is a useful mouthpiece piece. it's been a good "fallback" for me for a long time, and I've never heard anyone make a bad sound on one, or have the problems with breath control either.
19  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: That pesky high D.... on: Oct 06, 2017, 12:34PM
Absolutelly right.
I have allways used flexibilities both for my self and for my students.
Its funny that it is so selldom mentioned in TTF as a good way to build embouchure.
One of my favorites is triplets : (partials) 6,565,454,353,2 and eightnote: 2435,4658,6543,2 and 1324,3546,5432,1. 4658,6986,4658,698--. 68,910,98,68,9-  and so on as high as you like, try staying on the high tone for at least 4 beats.
This is just exemples, with just a little imagination you can lots of patterns.

They're also a great way to keep practice fresh; there must be millions of possible note combinations, and it's almost essential for those who want to use fretting for jazz improvisation. Triplets are my fave at the moment..
20  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: That pesky high D.... on: Oct 06, 2017, 01:54AM
Do you mean the interval exercises? I use those to maintain range and more than that to maintain accuracy, confidence and the ability to hear the high notes. Plus for flexibility too. Recognized or not, I still use them and recommend when asked.

Yes to both of the above posts. I have my own versions as well, but I'm surprised that this technique that was prevalent back in the day doesn't get get discussed much now. Having a super high range that one can't musically slur up to, or down from is not much practical use.
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