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1  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: How far can you get alone? on: Today at 01:55 AM
You don't just need a teacher, you need the right one, and one who understands the responsibilities of setting the student off on the right path. I've had three teachers, 2 were established UK symphony players, and one from a UK army service band. They all missed my embouchure problem, one which hindered me right through my playing life, I sorted it out myself about 15 years ago.
2  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: Maggio on: Yesterday at 01:36 PM
So what is it? I can't find much beyond the blurb on Amazon.

AS far as I can tell, it's a way of building upper range by concentrating on the pedals and working upwards.
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Jet Tone mouthpieces on: Dec 09, 2017, 09:25AM
Check out this topic from a few months back. I had one in the 80's to liven up a dead Bach 12, very bright and with an usual cup contour, and with a .484 bore could be quite lively..
 
4  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Practice mute or mouthpiece buzzing plus other things? on: Dec 07, 2017, 12:26PM
I've buy a Maslet mute and it's even better than the Bremner!

That's been my experience as well.
5  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Practice mute or mouthpiece buzzing plus other things? on: Dec 07, 2017, 03:29AM
I've been using these things for so long now it's become as normal as changing shoes. I made a choice to live somewhere where I can't play open, but with other benefits. So what started as a compromise has given me some gains, and even if I were to live somewhere where I could practice open, I would still use them.






(But not the DW practice mute though..)
6  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Practice mute or mouthpiece buzzing plus other things? on: Dec 06, 2017, 09:58AM

then using a Warburton plug at the end of the mouthpiece would seem to be the best all around compromise.


Do you mean a Warburton Buzzard?
7  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: articulation in the high register on: Dec 06, 2017, 09:55AM
Hi Pre59,

What do you mean by "roll tongue" from high F upward. Is that the opposite direction to the roll? In that case, I can how tonguing would be easier - do you just move the tip of the tongue higher onto the roof of the mouth?

Cheers, Pete



Hi Pete,

Just to be accurate please check my post, I can "roll" UP to a high C sharp. I included that detail to try to illustrate that in my instance the tongue position isn't a major factor for playing in the upper register.

By roll tonguing I mean rolling the tongue to create a Tremolo effect. It can start with a T or a D attack. Think of the tongue twister, "Round the ragged rock, the ragged rascals ran"..
8  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: articulation in the high register on: Dec 06, 2017, 02:27AM

Incidentally, I think I hear some of Ron McCroby's technique includes a whistled doodle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jBwPBRvaoM


Also Roger Whittaker, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3ZdBVAWWNo

Believe it or not this was a hit in the UK in the sixties, and I used to try and play it on the Tbn, the key of Db seemed to have the least slide movement at the time.

9  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: articulation in the high register on: Dec 05, 2017, 03:50PM
I'd never heard of using a tongue arch until I started reading TTF posts, and have been playing with a strong upper register for over 50 years. I've asked the question, is the tongue arch technique large bore size and m/p dependant, and not had any responses.
I've always concentrated on aperture focus and lip flexibilities, and I can play in the upper register using no tongue up to, and beyond high F and roll tongue up to C sharp. I don't make a conscious connection between the tongue and the higher range, and never needed to. There may be a very subtle subconscious shape change happening but it's certainly not deliberate.

I try and hold the same embouchure that I use for an F in the middle of the bass clef stave. In my reality high tones are achieved via flexibilities using a correctly focused embouchure with a relaxed body.

"If this would just start an unnecessary re-hash of an old discussion, please let me know."

This topic is never going to go away, but I think the "tongue/air" model holds sway now.
10  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Practice mute or mouthpiece buzzing plus other things? on: Dec 05, 2017, 01:51PM

Try mutes and buzzing. The important thing is that you're blowing air, and staying in shape. Better to think about buzzing and mutes while using those methods, than take a day off, if you're concerned about the physical part of your playing.


+1

Buzzing and mutes are all good IMO..
11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Why do trombone manufacturers have both a Bb and a C model for each p on: Dec 05, 2017, 01:54AM
Also, for the same reason as using a C Melody Sax, to read concert pitch parts without having to transpose.
12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: New Yamaha 891Z v King 3B on: Nov 28, 2017, 07:30AM
If you're really happy with your 3B I think adding a .525 with F attachment to your stable is a great idea.

An intermediate Yamaha may do the trick..

13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: New Yamaha 891Z v King 3B on: Nov 27, 2017, 01:04PM
The reason why I posted this topic is that because of Brexit I have a feeling that prices of imported good are going to rise pretty soon. The slide on my 3B is very free especially with Reka slide oil, and doesn't seem particularly heavy. So if there's no real advantage in the 891Z over my (hand picked) 3B I might be better served by completing my "set" of trombones with a .525 horn with an F attachment, mainly for local shows etc.
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / New Yamaha 891Z v King 3B on: Nov 27, 2017, 02:55AM
I've a 15+ year old 3B that I picked as the best of 3 examples at the time, and am interested in a Yamaha 891Z, mainly for small group jazz and the occasional big-band gig. It looks like the 891Z is based on a 3B and designed for a similar use.
Does the the Yamaha have any significant benefits apart from the exchangeable leadpipe, and are others available from 3rd parties?
15  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: AR Resonance Mouthpieces on: Nov 20, 2017, 08:57AM
Thanks for the replies. Sorry about the "mystique" line, I was a bit frustrated by then..


 
16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: AR Resonance Mouthpieces on: Nov 20, 2017, 05:40AM
Has anyone found a list or chart for the Backbore spec's? Nine different types?
17  Practice Break / Found on the 'Net / Re: You canít tell me no one else has seen this on: Nov 19, 2017, 03:15PM
Ok, if no-one else is going to say it..

He looks like a "fun-guy."
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: AR Resonance Mouthpieces on: Nov 19, 2017, 08:43AM
I've been following this thread for a while, and have been over to the AR site. It's a 2 piece system right? A few diagrams (including shanks) and a simple overview would be helpful rather than having to pick out details from TTF posts. Better to lay out the benefits and advantages straight off the top without having to trawl through dropdowns to find that it is a 2 piece system. That's for the home page surely. The prices don't include the cost of individual parts, say, a top and 2 shanks for example. 

It does lend a certain mystique to the product though. Confused
19  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Memorizing jazz scales on trombone on: Nov 18, 2017, 04:14AM
Rick Beato on YouTube demonstrates modes and scales by playing a sustained chord on a keyboard and playing over the top on a guitar or other keyboard. I'm a fan of learning about improvisation from pattern based instruments, and I started with some early Joe Pass DVDs.

This knowledge has to mean something to you, and you have to be able to place it in a context, otherwise it's just stuff. Some people have the kind of mind where they can understand and more importantly retain it, and even more importantly use it in a musically valid way. Others have to have a context and then wonder how to play in it; I'd put myself in this one.

The Rick Beato site is a great resource and worth checking out.
20  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Trombone wall hanger on: Nov 18, 2017, 03:30AM
I saw that, but you have to have that slat wall for it to work.

There are some that require slat fixings but this one has 2 holes for screws.
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