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1  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Taxing trumpet playing is killing my Trombone chops.... on: Aug 13, 2017, 02:56PM
Andrew, thanks for that. It is an interesting interview. Not much on my "problem" but the few thoughts on breathing and embouchures are quite essential, though not news to me. I admit I'm guilty of not putting enough air in the low register of the Trombone.

Rob, I didn't get hurt - I just probably had exceeding expectation, I believe that geezer is right on the money. The other issue I noticed is when doing the instant switch between the two a la JM (aka question-answer, while using the trombone with a closed slide) I get distracted from. the embouchure switch because of trying to get the playing  instrument in the microphone - seems like a tiny side obstacle, but it is something that is not coming "naturally"
2  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Taxing trumpet playing is killing my Trombone chops.... on: Aug 13, 2017, 09:56AM
Maybe I should repeat it once again, that I am a professional trumpet player, doubling on trombone. The Tbone is a new instrument for me, which I started playing 7 months ago. I am still figuring some basic embouchure stuff like whether to align the jaws, wether to use air pockets in my embouchure and the use of some not so obvious positions of the slide. I have a decent range on the trombone for a beginner but the stamina is still kinf of an issue. When feeling tired or not in my best shape I can mostly manage it on the trumpet, but on the trombone I have obviously still a lot of work to do.

I am looking up to people like James Morisson, and that's the present goal - but obvously still a long way to go. If anybody has experience in multi-instrumentalists work done on the same gig, feel free to share.
3  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Taxing trumpet playing is killing my Trombone chops.... on: Aug 13, 2017, 04:01AM
No, this is not about bragging  :D

Taxing trumpet playing (jazz, occasionally wandering in the lead trumpet range) makes my Trombone chops weak (I often switch from trumpet to Trombone and vice versa on this gig).

Anyone with tips about this? I do practice both instruments and occasionally practice the switch itself.
4  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: To Lead tbones and high note specialists: jaw placement? on: Jul 30, 2017, 09:27AM
Experimenting with embouchure setup doesn't necessarily mean that we want to copy player X or Y. Just testing what works and what doesn't. If you end up with more efficient setup nobody will or should complain....
5  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: To Lead tbones and high note specialists: jaw placement? on: Jul 30, 2017, 02:42AM
From the Reinhardt perspective, what I've read of the Pivot System and talked/learned from Doug Elliott (and he can correct me if I'm wrong), the jaw placement is dependent on the embouchure type that fits your anatomy.

No, that's generally correct. Still aligning jaws may change some even a lot of stuff. Myself, from slightly down stream I moved to a slightly upstream setup. I am a player that doesn't pivot too much, but still does visibly on extreme registers and big intervals.
6  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: To Lead tbones and high note specialists: jaw placement? on: Jul 29, 2017, 06:35AM

I read somewhere that Cat Anderson warmed up with long notes on a single note G on his trumpet for about 15-20 minutes. After that he was ready to play any high note.

Leif,

This is very wrong. This wasn't warming up, but calinestenics (or whatever is called in English). He called that whisper G - he played the note as soft as he could with closed aligned jaws, breathing in through the nose in order to keep the embouchure setup steady and not releasing the tension of the lips (building strength and setting up the "right" position of the whole embouchure setup. He did this at home, often while watching TV or other multitasking stuff.

Think of it like Carmine Caruso type of embouchure workout.
7  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / To Lead tbones and high note specialists: jaw placement? on: Jul 28, 2017, 11:17PM
Being a doubler (my main instrument is 🎺) I was lately experimenting with the teachings of Cat Anderson and some other trumpet high specialists, which led me to start experimenting on the tbone as well...so the question for today is:

JAW PLACEMENT/SETUP:

Do you put forward the lower jaw in order to align the teeth of both jaw or do you use the more classical/conventional setup with lower jaw being slightly behind the upper one and why?
8  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Slide technique practice out of facetime? on: Jun 20, 2017, 02:31PM
The question is coming from a doubler, whose main instrument happen to be the  🎺. Many of us have exercised fingerings without instrument...or some have even used sandovalves. I often see trumpeters like sandoval mimicking playing valves when scat singing. That's where I come from. I hope that my question doesn't sound stupid to you, sliders :D What Tom's saying sounds plausible to me.
9  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Slide technique practice out of facetime? on: Jun 20, 2017, 03:32AM
Is it possible to practice slide positions and technique without putting facetime? If so, how to do it?
10  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: On Mouthpiece Buzzing on: Jun 20, 2017, 12:41AM
Guys, that's so fun to read at times...I guess it depends on your embouchure philosophy.

Buzzing on the way to work, or just because you don't have your instrument/mouthpiece is one thing, doing it systematically as a part of your daily routine is a completely different thing.

Free buzzing, mouthpiece buzzing, rim mp buzzing, leadpipe buzzing - you name it. The fact is, on most mouthpiece the pitch you get on most mp is not the same get by playing the same mp and same embouchure setup/tension on your instrument.

Still, free buzzing or mouthpiece buzzing can help us establish the relation between pitches and our embouchure set up. I hope we all agree on that...
11  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: A new trombone improv method book without scales or patterns? on: Jun 20, 2017, 12:33AM
Anybody already using the book? I just ordered one (hard copy). Let me know how you like it.
12  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: On Mouthpiece Buzzing on: Jun 16, 2017, 02:16PM
That's more or less the Gordon/Anderson approach - we don't buzz, we blow against a vibrating tissue (our lips). After my student years I always found that thinking of playing a brass instrument seem to be closer to blowing or singing than buzzing. I've done a decent amount of buzzing, because I was told so, but never really saw any tremendous benefits out of it. The only benefit if any, I felt from buzzing on the mouthpiece was that it improved my intonation by freeing my from the crotches of the valves. But I guess that I could actually do the same by singing or even whistling.
13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Unboxing the wessex tenor trombone stand on: Jun 16, 2017, 07:24AM
My issue is that it is one piece that moves that doesn't need to and provides no useful function.  With what I paid for the horn, I don't need that spring to give me feedback on being careful placing the horn, and it doesn't do anything useful to help me pick it up. So, I'd rather just omit unnecessary parts.

Cheers,
Andy

+1. Absolutely the way I feel about. Sounds like something I'm about to do....
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Unboxing the wessex tenor trombone stand on: Jun 16, 2017, 05:13AM
The ideal accessory in my case would be a standing triple stand that can hold a tenor trombone, trumpet and a flugelhorn...never seen such a beast, though. Converting a trombone stand to a real standing trumpet stand is not a big deal, you just need a second rod with a trumpet base. BG surely got a valid point about standing big band trumpet sections. In a sitting orchestra that's not really an issue.
15  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Unboxing the wessex tenor trombone stand on: Jun 16, 2017, 03:59AM
Does it work as a standing trumpet stand also?
I tried. It works, but one have to adjust to rod in order not get blocked in the bell. But definitely needs a sock or something.
16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Unboxing the wessex tenor trombone stand on: Jun 15, 2017, 02:02PM
I like it.  Your "King Silver Sonic" looks nice on it (man, that looks like a Bach copy).

Does it work as a standing trumpet stand also?

Well, I would say that it sounds quite more like a Bach than a King. I guess that it could work like standing trumpet stand, but I would never will - for me the tbone is a complimentary instrument and I will always have the trumpet at the gig as well (I would rather go without a tbone on some)
17  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Unboxing the wessex tenor trombone stand on: Jun 15, 2017, 01:13PM
Here come the photos:



The sticky tape was the strongest ever. I didn't have a knife on me and trying to cut it with a key was a real pain  :-0














18  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Saving $ on shipping while shopping for trombone books on: Jun 15, 2017, 08:36AM
Here is the dilemma:
I want to get  few instructional books from very different sources from US authors, but would be pleased If I don't have to pay shipping separately  for every single book. Here is what I want:

Sam Burtis, Time, Balance & Connections:

Bob McChesney, Technical Studies for Trombone

Michel Lake, Trombone Improvisation Savvy


So, is there a way to purchase all three in a single shipping and how to do that?
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Unboxing the wessex tenor trombone stand on: Jun 15, 2017, 08:16AM
I just received my Wessex stand, I will post some pics later on.

What stroke me, is that it was much lighter than it looks. Generally I am pleased with that thing, but it seems to me, that if the palm (I don't know if this is the correct english term, I mean the small platform on which the bell is resting) was stationery/fixed instead of the spring thing it may be a good thing to change in the future.

I am a beginning  user of trombone stands, so I maybe wrong. If I need to know anything before I start to use the thing/warnings, feel free to chime in.
20  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: A new trombone improv method book without scales or patterns? on: Jun 15, 2017, 08:07AM
Hi Mike,

I think that it is a flash thing. I couldn't when I first wrote, but few days later I managed to view the preview (I have a setting blocking the automatic activation of the flash plugin instead the browser is supposed to ask me for a permission, but then nothing was happening when clicking on your link). Thanks for your caring  Good!
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