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1  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: High Register, whisper g closed teeth and other "cheats" on: Today at 10:11 AM
There are no real cheats to intelligent practice. The above mentioned exercises and approaches are no exceptions. There's why I put them between ".But there are some exercises that may give us the right tools to achieve our goals.
2  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Trouble with flexibility on: Today at 07:59 AM
The only book on the market I can see that advocates tonguing a phrase and then slurring it as both an aid to articulation and flexibility is "Matty Shiner's Lip Builder" book, available through Progressive Music or on eBay. That is not to say there are no others and any flexibility exercise from any source could be practiced that way.

Great discussion, guys!

...Geezer

Clarke, Jeez. Not Clarke Terry, but Herbert Clarke. All decent trumpet players have done slurred than articulated the Clarke's drills. Not sure if Clarke has intended it that way, but it is quite probably the case - anyway, it become a tradition in valved brass.
3  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Out of breath on: Today at 05:03 AM
Doug is right on the money, as always. Leaks and inneficiencies can be quite a problem especially in low brass.

If you suspect that it may be your embouchure that it's faulty do scales and flexibility drills in the softest volume possible (on the verge of getting no sound at all) without doing breaks for long time and if there is a leak n your embouchure, you will hear it. It is also a very good workout overall.
4  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Trouble with flexibility on: Today at 04:55 AM
I really like both BGuttman and Pre59 comments.

When I started the Trombone, some 10 months ago, to get a feel of the blow and the whole register of the instrument I started with flexibility drills that I do often on trumpet.

Look to some videos of Clarke Terry and Bill Watrous and see what they could play without moving a finger... impressive stuff. So, don't neglect flexibility drills. There are plenty books on that on the market. Just pick one and start chewing it up.
5  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / High Register, whisper g closed teeth and other "cheats" on: Today at 02:03 AM
Hi Folks,

I tried to put these questions for a discussion on he FB Tbone chat, but didn't get a whole lot of answers. So here there are:

1. Does anybody use in his practice routine the Cat Anderson whisper G and other calinestenic exercises involving playing with closed teeth (or at least try for).
2. Does anybody use unfurled/forward kiss position for high register playing (not necessarily only for high register?

2. Any other ideas enhancing endurance and high register besides long tones and Caruso type of exercises?
6  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / James Morrison's multiphonics on: Oct 08, 2017, 05:29AM
Do James Morrison's multiphonics in Things ain't not the used to be follow the blues progression or is just a walking bass in F (random)?
7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Facet cup mutes on: Oct 05, 2017, 11:18AM
I do like the sound, though it is out of the ordinary... They are costly...you can buy a Trombone for the same price.
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Facet cup mutes on: Oct 05, 2017, 08:05AM
Does anybody have any of these? If so, what's your opinion?

Disclaimer: not going to use these in any big bands, brass bands or symphonic orchestras. Solely for solo and small ensembles work.

Looking to choose between
1. the Mahogany w/ Birch Bottoms
And
2. - Chicago Jazz Philharmonic Walnut & Padauk

Leaning towards the #1 because of the possibility to light up a bit more if needed.

Intend to use this on a small bore trombone.
9  Creation and Performance / The Healthy Trombonist / Re: Tip on relieving mid back pain from playing? on: Oct 01, 2017, 03:43AM
I would first check my posture, whether it generates some unnecessary tension. Then would eventually look for some "aids" likes grips and stuff. If you are a bass trombone player, maybe check egobrass if everything else fails.
10  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Hey Doug, I really need your help and insight on the matter. Others too!!! on: Sep 28, 2017, 01:09AM
Trumpet or trombone - the issue remains.

Chris is right on the money, as always. We are all unique in one or another way and we have to adapt our playing both to our anatomy and the metal in front of us.

Arching the tongue and hitting upper jaw the teeth with the upper front part of your tongue may help (as in "tiu" kind of articulation, cf. Arban and french school of brass articulation).

Hope that helps. Cleaning articulation is not an easier, nor a quick job to do.
11  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Playing between the partials on: Sep 26, 2017, 07:41AM
For now I just play the bottom tetrachord of any major scale without moving the slide where partials are 3rd away (forming the 1-3-5 kind of arpeggio. The notes in between are certainly underprivileged and I execute them slowly for now. Going downward is easier though.
12  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Playing between the partials on: Sep 26, 2017, 06:16AM
I know about Bob....I am quite away from his level, but I do follow his stuff.
13  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Playing between the partials on: Sep 26, 2017, 04:11AM
I guess this belong to the bending notes category, but never seen or heard a trombone player doing it.

You can actually almost play a major scale in the middle register without changing position, but in the between notes will be actually bent and somewhat off center. This is supposed to enhance embouchure control.

Does anybody doing on the tbone and what are your thoughts about it?
14  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: How long can you normally practice? i.e. endurance problem. on: Sep 25, 2017, 05:24AM
When using practice mute, do practice at soft volumes. Save the loud playing for open practice/practice rooms. Staccato practice may help you endurance, but make sure first you have appropriate embouchure and breathing management.
15  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Re: Vibrato practice/teaching on: Sep 24, 2017, 04:02AM
Basically he teaches vibrato as Arban and many teach lip trill and flexibility.

You take a note and play a vibrato oscillation in quarter notes, then in eights, then sixteens and so on.

Basically the idea is to teach yourself or your student to make vibrato at any speed AT WILL and be able to put it anywhere in a piece/solo where you deem appropriate.
16  Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy / Vibrato practice/teaching on: Sep 24, 2017, 03:08AM
Well...vibrato is often neglected both in our performance practice, practice rooms and while teaching

As many of you know I am a trumpeter who tries to learn trombone doubling and jazz/impro all at once.

I started taking Skype lessons with Larry Meregilano. At first he thought that I just wanted lead chops..
and though this is something I desire and go after, we touched a lot of other subjects, one of which was vibrato.

I was impressed by the systemacity (is there even such a word?) of his approach to merely learning  how to make a vibrato ..here it is:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155381278545255&id=585865254

I will implement this in my Trombone practice...what do you think?
17  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Saving $ on shipping while shopping for trombone books on: Sep 22, 2017, 02:03AM
I got the books and got started on Sam's book. Not your typical brass book though. It take some time to figure the most optimal way to practice his stuff, let alone transpose the exercises in all keys.
18  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Aligned jaws set up and head position on: Sep 20, 2017, 11:07AM
Recently I started experimenting with aligning jaws setup....It enables me to go higher than ever, but here is the "issue" :

The back part of the trombone prevents me from put the angle high enough to play with aligned jaws. So I see myself forced the put the head downward, so I can put the mouthpiece at the desired angle. Is this bad?
19  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Respiratory trainer on: Sep 18, 2017, 03:39AM
In my experience, all of the great brass instrument musicians, to whom we look up are just ordinary people, anatomically speaking. Their mastery usually lies in the efficient use of what they have. They usually don't have bigger muscles, lungs or whatever. But they gained the necessary control to do everything  in the EASIEST way possible. Muscles are important, but control is the master.
20  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Respiratory trainer on: Sep 16, 2017, 07:11AM
Get a BB tuba....
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