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1  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: WTT: Bach Mt Vernon 45B inline bass for something cool on: Jan 06, 2018, 03:32PM
The heart of a booking agent?
2  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / WTB: Edwards Counterweight on: Jan 06, 2018, 10:12AM
Looking for an Edwards counterweight - cheap, of course  Pant

Please e-mail chris.waage ut gmail.com
3  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Putting a $ value on a used trombone on: Nov 29, 2014, 06:06PM
There are a plethora of factors that go into the price of a used instrument, even a mint condition one.

For example, "new retail price" varies significantly from local retailers to online retailers.  As of today, MSRP on the King 2102L Jiggs Whigham model is $3241.  Average retail from a local "mom and pop" store would be around $2500 to $2700, and the average online retail price would be around $1900 to $2100.  The "big box" online retailers receive both a greater discount on the price of the instrument than the mom and pop stores because they buy in greater quantity.  They also take a lower profit on every sale, making it up in volume of sales.

With that said, the market for the Jiggs model instrument is narrower than, say, a Bach 42.  That doesn't mean you won't get a good price, you'll just have to wait for the right buyer.

Odds are your top dollar would be around $1400 if you're lucky.  Now the upside is that there aren't many of the 2B Jiggs Whigham's sitting on shelves, so if someone wants one, you'll have the right deal.

There's two on eBay right now - one at $1599 opening bid, the other at $695 opening bid with a $1100 "Buy it Now" price.  Two have sold in the past two months, one for $586 and the other for $1399.99.

Of course, your mileage may vary, but this is what I've seen in the 16 years I've been managing the Online Trombone Classifieds and working in music retail.

4  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Best all around case for Bach Greenhoe Bass on: Nov 24, 2010, 10:09AM
I have a Protec bass case and have been using it with my Bach/Greenhoe for over a year with no problems.  Their quality has improved greatly. 

HOWEVER I don't believe I would feel comfortable checking it as baggage with an airline.  While it's protective of the instrument, it's definitely not a hard case. 

5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Accelerating the staining of raw brass... on: Dec 28, 2008, 02:09PM
Uh, I know it's kind of gross, but urine will cause brass to tarnish quickly.  Works on any metallic compound containing copper.

Ever seen someone get brand new "old" looking copper flashings on a house?  That's how they do it.

Yeah, I know.

Wear gloves.
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Make your own mouthpieces? on: Dec 28, 2008, 02:06PM
Guess you could always try the Think System.
7  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Forum Classified Ads advance notice on: Jan 01, 2008, 03:57PM
I have been maintaining the Online Trombone Journal Classifieds for nearly 10 years.  During that time, I have had a standing policy:  If I receive an ad that matches someone's "want to buy" ad, I will forward the ad to the potential buyer.

I have been doing this as a courtesy to the buyers and sellers for the entire time I have been responsible for the OTJ Classifieds.

If you review the OTJ Classifieds Policies, there is no statement or even implication of embargo for the newly-submitted ads.

If you have any questions about the Online Trombone Journal Classifieds, please feel free to contact me via e-mail or PM.

Chris Waage
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Removing silver tarnish on: Oct 17, 2006, 12:48PM
Toothpaste will work - it has a mild abrasive, though.  I do have to agree that Wright's Silver Cream is the best, though.  

I haven't tried WD-40, but I would venture that it would also help in keeping the mouthpiece from getting stuck in the receiver or to your chops. Evil

When polishing anything on your instrument, you want to avoid ANYTHING that contains an abrasive.  Abrasives polish well, but they also remove a very tiny amount of metal to make it really shine.  Chemical polishes, such as the Wright's silver cream and Wright's brass polish, lack the abrasive but clean by interacting with the oxidization on the brass or the tarnish on silver.

I have also seen people use a buffing wheel with jeweler's rouge to clean up a mouthpiece, but it's VERY easy to remove the silver plating.  Never use a mouthpiece without plating - raw brass can cause all sorts of problems, especially on the lips.

9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / loud mouthpieces on: Jul 31, 2006, 05:59PM
Warning:  Using a buffer or any powered device can easily burn through the plating - be very careful!

Another warning: Always start with soft pressure - err on the side of caution.  Should you damage the plating on the rim of the mouthpiece, you'll need to either have it replated or discard it - raw brass is not a good thin.

Simple and cheap mouthpiece cleanup:

1.  Buy Wright's Silver Polish or Flitz
2.  Buy a mouthpiece brush.
3.  Put a little of either polish on the mouthpiece brush and work it through the shank.  You may have to do it a couple of times if you have tons of gunk built up in the shank.  If it's really bad, soak it in very hot water and dish soap before polishing.
4.  Put about a quarter-size blob of either on a paper towel.   Polish the mouthpiece with it.
5.  Rinse it off with water, and buff with another paper towel.
6.  Rinse everything again with water - neither polish will make you sick, but they don't taste very good.

If you don't have either polish, you can use toothpaste.  It won't do quite as good of a job, but it works.
10  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / D Elliott bass mpc on: Jul 31, 2006, 05:49PM
The best thing to do - if possible - is to get on the phone with Doug.  I have never seen someone who is better with finding the correct fit for people.

11  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Not allowed to use Yamaha 48L on: Jul 31, 2006, 05:48PM
There's a story floating around the Internet about Reinhold Schilke playing bass trumpet in the Chicago Symphony.  When Sir Georg Solti noticed that he was using a trumpet mouthpiece on the bass trumpet, Sir Solti informed him that, "The bass trumpet is to be played with a trombone mouthpiece."

After rehearsal, Schilke went home, cut a trumpet mouthpiece on a trombone blank, then used it at the next reherasal.

Solti's comment was, "Much better."

It's not the equipment, it's the results.

The main difference between a 48L and a 6-1/2AL is that the Yamaha has a more rounded Schilke-profile rim and the Bach has the sharper, traditional Bach rim.  They are essentially the same size rim, cup and backbore.

12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Doug Elliott shanks on: Apr 15, 2004, 02:28PM
The Doug Elliott shank will only work with the cup for which it was designed.  For example, an F8 shank will work with an F cup, and a G8 with a G cup.

You can put a larger shank into a smaller cup, i.e., a G8 shank on an F cup, but the results are definitely funky.  A smaller shank, i.e. an F8 shank on a G cup, wil fit, but you'll have a flat lip all the way around the backbore.  Probably not a benefit . . .

13  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Practical Jokes on: Mar 17, 2004, 05:17PM
OK - you didn't hear these from me . . .

1.  Pull the F-attachment tuning slide on someone's instrument.  Fill slide with water, replacing it carefully.  Wait for an appropriate note, and watch their face - be cautious to be out of the range of the bell . . .

2.  Remove mouthpiece, jab it into a jar of Vaseline, wipe it down, then re-insert it.  Works especially well for trumpet players who always seem to have to blow a FFF amount of air through the instrument to drain spit before an entrance.

3.  Cover the tympani heads with a light coat of baby powder.  'nuf said.

4.  If you've ever had a problem with people "borrowing" your water bottle, keep your "real" one in a pocket, and leave one filled with vodka available for "borrowing."  Works especially well if the "borrow-ee" also sprays a few squirts in the mouth before playing.  BTW-if you really don't like them, make sure it's really cheap peppered vodka.

5.  A more subtle joke is to move the tuning slides every time the opportunity presents itself.  It takes a bit for it to be noticed.

14  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Does anyone know this guy? on: Mar 16, 2004, 05:34PM
It's now the 16th of March - any instrument yet?
15  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Foreign spam on: Mar 11, 2004, 08:58AM
One of my co-workers has been saving all of the "enlarge your manhood" e-mails, and plans to file a class-action lawsuit claiming that these e-mails make him feel inferior and that the inferiority complex has kept him from meeting women.


16  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Foreign spam on: Mar 11, 2004, 07:57AM
Most of the incoherent spam is actually spam trolling.  People will reply to the message, and that verifies that they've found a "live" e-mail.

The other nasty tactic spammers are using are the embedded images that are e-mail address specific.  Once you open the message, the e-mail requests the graphic from the spammer's server and sends your e-mail address as being "live".

The problem is that somebody must be buying from these swine, otherwise it would just die off.

17  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Does anyone know this guy? on: Mar 10, 2004, 06:49PM
First off, it is good to remember that tact can often be good choice.  Labeling someone a jerk without having all the details is never a good thing.

Second, I have done business with Sid in the past.  He isn't out to rip anyone off, and I would be VERY surprised if this is a case of fraud.  Make phone contact, if that doesn't work, send a letter by certified mail - it'll cost you $10, but as Joe recommended, that's the first step in the legal process.

I'm not trying to make excuses for anybody - just suggesting that there are much better ways to handle a situation than labeling someone a jerk in a public forum.
18  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Trombone-L coming to an end March 31 on: Mar 05, 2004, 06:34PM
There are several individuals working to see if there is another solution, i.e., moving the list to another institution, etc.

Stay tuned for mo' info.

19  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Mac Question on: Mar 01, 2004, 05:10PM
The only way to run Norton Utilities or DiskWarrior from CD on a Mac that will boot only into OSX is to buy the latest release of the software on CD.  Same procedure to boot from CD as in previous versions of Mac OS - hold down "C" on the keyboard.

Because of the way OSX works, you can also use a FireWire drive to create a huge bootable drive.  Connect the Firewire drive to your computer, then use the Max OSX installer to install the OS on the FireWire drive.  Restart the computer, then use the Startup Disk control panel to boot your computer from the Firewire disk.  You can also install Norton Utilities, DiskWarrior and any other groovy-cool utilities you like on the Firewire drive.

20  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Pissed Off on: Feb 19, 2004, 07:53PM
I would recommend that you go to http://www.freeverse.com and download "Jared the Butcher of MP3s".  When they start "singing", fire up the speakers and let'er rip.

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