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1  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: I'm new on: Today at 05:00 PM
If the instrument doesn't have any major problems, that would be a fair price for it.

How does the slide work?  Is it easy to move?  Do you feel a "click" as you move it?

The King 606 is a good beginner trombone (as is its cousin the Conn 22H).  You should be able to learn how to play and even get good enough to join a community band or play for your Church.  The trick now is to get some lessons.
2  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: Dog Howls when i play trombone on: Today at 04:30 PM
Never had one howl, but a couple have chased my slide as I play :)

Maybe he thinks you are another dog and it's time to start a howl fest.  Way cool  Or maybe you sound like a wounded moose and he thinks there's prey nearby :-P
3  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Low f in first position on: Today at 04:26 PM
The Ostrander book is what I used to learn F-attachment.  I recommend it to all people starting with one.  Wish I knew him when I was starting out -- he was still with the Phil then.
4  Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany / Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice on: Today at 02:19 PM
You know you are in orchestra when you can calculate your pay per note. :-P

I always get dirty looks from the string players, who are sawing their arms off, while I just have to plonk a note or two.

And trombones aren't even scored in most pieces.
5  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Large Bore Concert MP on: Today at 02:15 PM
What is the point of using a Megatone mouthpiece? I have often wondered about getting one. Just curious  :)

Back in the Bad Old Days, we used to put something on the mouthpiece shank called a Sound Sleeve.  This added mass to the mouthpiece.  The Megatone was a way to simulate the Sound Sleeve.  It was an interesting idea, but adding mass to the mouthpiece works with a strong embouchure and a well developed player.  Most mortals really find they add a lot of effort without much payback.
6  Creation and Performance / Music, Concerts and Recordings / Re: Music that is similar to.... on: Today at 02:11 PM
"Berceuse" from Jocelyn by Godard.  I think Ed Madden has an arrangement for trombone and Band.
7  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Low f in first position on: Today at 02:09 PM
Low F in 1st on most trigger horns is quite flat, especially if you tune the attachment so F in the staff or C in the staff is in tune.  Some instruments, like the Conn 88H and King 4B, had springs in the cork barrels so you could shorten the position a bit.  Some people tune with 1st position off the bumpers so you can shorten that F as necessary.

Or you can try to tune the F-attachment so that F below the staff is in tune and play all the other 1st position trigger notes out a little.

Hope this helps.
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: alto t-bone measurement on: Today at 11:01 AM
OK.  Tape and horn in the same place.

1990 Conn 36H (initial run):

Dimension D as described above: 9 3/4"
Leadpipe to end of long loop of Bb attachment: 11.5"
Leadpipe to end of bell bow (tuning slide in) 9.5"

Hope this helps.
9  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Bach 5G vs. Hammond 11ML vs 11MXL vs 11L on: Today at 10:21 AM
I found the ML to be just a shade deep.  Felt deeper to me than my Bach 4G or my Wick 4BL.  But other than that, I agree with Sheriff.

Everybody is different and for you maybe the L is a good choice.  Or even look at the Bach 4G or the Wick 4 sizes (4AL, 4ABL, 4BL).  Another equivalent is the Schilke 52.
10  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: alto t-bone measurement on: Today at 09:50 AM
:D :D

Bruce, if I send you beers will you measure your old 36H?

It's not the beers.  I need to have the bone and a tape measure in the same place!  (It's not as easy as it sounds.)

I assume in addition to the measurement shown, you want the distance from the leadpipe to the end of the long Bb tubing loop and to the bell bow (that should tell you what you want to know). 

My big complaint about the 36H is that the bell brace digs into my thumb joint as I hold it.  Secondary complaint: sometimes I catch a beard hair while pressing the trigger (ouch!) :/
11  Teaching & Learning / History of the Trombone / Re: Early trombone methods? on: Yesterday at 07:29 PM
I have a Method by Karl Hampe (1st Trombone, Boston Symphony Orchestra, c1891-c1915) published around 1912.  I got it from his great-grandson, also Karl Hampe and also a trombone player (but not a professional).  I think this is the oldest American method book I have ever seen although there may be older ones.
12  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Has anybody even seen a Conn 111H before? on: Yesterday at 01:39 PM
Why would you think that's a Kanstul??????

I have a friend with a 1662 and this looked like it.  But I don't own one and can't do a detailed examination.
13  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories / Re: Gard Mid-Suspension G Series Bass Trombone Gig Bag on: Yesterday at 10:46 AM
I have a Gard bass trombone case.  Don't know if it's "mid suspension" or not.  Works like a Reunion Blues G case with a slide insert inside the bag.

The case sets up with an octagonal plate to stiffen the bell section.  Has carry handles and a shoulder strap.

There is an accessory bag that attaches by Velcro to the slide insert.  It sometimes comes off.  Left it on the non-horn side of the insert.  It was able to hold two mouthpieces, sprayer, lube, and a few other things.  Will not hold a full music clip.

I was able to put my King 7B and a trombone stand inside (the trombone stand on the other side of the slide insert).

I was able to carry it on my shoulder without much trouble.

It doesn't provide much protection, but I don't think any gig bag really does.  It's not as nice as a Cronkite or Altieri, but mine cost a LOT less.
14  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: 1954 King 3b Silversonic on: Yesterday at 09:39 AM
You can post it in our Classifieds.  It's free.  Read the rules before you write the post.

You can post it on Trombone Chat (but there's not much traffic there).

You can put it on the Online Trombone Journal Classifieds (www.trombone.org).

You can put it on Ebay.  Remember that SilverSonics and Silvertones go for premium prices.

You can have DJ Kennedy act as a broker for you.  I understand his brokerage fees are nominal.

Good luck.  Straight or F-attachment?
15  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: FS - Two very nice Elkies on: Yesterday at 09:35 AM
I like it.  The 79H is in a Bach case.

Yes, the 79H had an 8" bell (at least mine did).
16  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Yesterday at 07:26 AM
I'm not assuming anything.  I think you have a good idea.  I was just suggesting somewhere that they may have actually done what you ask.

During the election, fivethirtyeight had a voter "power index" where they factored the likelihood a state could switch alliances and the ratio of electors to population.  Since my state is considered very purple, we had a fairly strong "power index" for each voter.  A state with a high elector to population value but little chance of switching (like Wyoming) would have a low "power index", as would a state with a low elector to population value.
17  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: Bunker 2017 on: Yesterday at 07:13 AM
But the cricket loss is not going to blow down your house.  Gotta keep perspective here, Grah.

On a similar front, the USA won the World Baseball Classic, beating perennial champs Puerto Rico.
18  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Bent mouthpiece shank on: Yesterday at 07:08 AM
Of the three mouthpieces in that auction, I only think one might work with the pliers.

There is a Mouthpiece Shank Tool available from Hickey's and WWBW for around $15 that is simply a tapered mandrel you insert and twist (basically doing the same thing as the pliers, but more evenly).  Often the pros will use a small hammer with the tool to tap out the dents, which is actually a better way to go.

Using the push and twist, you have to be careful not to overexpand the end of the mouthpiece.  It's also easy to create a couple of tears in the brass.  (Ask me how I know  Embarrassed! )
19  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: Spam cell calls on: Mar 27, 2017, 08:50PM
I saw the attached article recently in the Journal of Accountancy.  (no, the article wasn't in the centerfold, and yes, I read it for the articles  Pant)

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Hey!  I want to see a centerfold in the Journal of Accountancy!  Is it a sexy spreadsheet? :-P Pant
20  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Large Bore Concert MP on: Mar 27, 2017, 08:32PM
he suggested the bach megatone 4g/ 5g

Personally, I wouldn't go with a Megatone.  Especially for a kid.  Megatones take a lot of effort to play and you will work harder than you need to.  A Bach (or Faxx) 4G or 5G might be perfect.  Not too expensive and just a little bigger.
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