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1  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: God on: Today at 08:04 AM
I have a problem with this "omniscient" and "omnipotent".  If God is omniscient and omnipotent, how can he allow someone to kill innocent people?  If he's omniscient he knows that the killing will occur.  If he's omnipotent he should be able to stop it.  This is a conundrum to me.  I would sooner accept that God (whomever he is) started things off and is now busy elsewhere and isn't watching what happens here.
2  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Common cold and playing on: Today at 07:49 AM
A lot of it is the congestion in your ears.  Everything sounds odd when you have a head cold.  The ears are more a problem than the lungs (you can compensate by just breathing more).

Now that you are more-or-less over the virus, make sure to clean your mouthpiece well.  Maybe a trip through the dishwasher (not plastic, though!) or an overnight soak in mouthwash.  Don't want to reinfect yourself.
3  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Wake Up, America: Take 3 on: Today at 07:46 AM
I just want to make one small comment.

I doubt many Republicans would accept the label "Government of Putin".  Certainly John McCain won't.  I'll accept that Trump and his cohorts have ties to Russia, but it doesn't spread that far.

The travel ban is going to hurt some Christians much more than any Muslims.  There are Christians in the embargoed countries, especially Syria and Iraq.  They are facing persecution and even death from the various factions at war with each other.  They are the ones who will suffer the most.  Wonder how our Christian American friends are feeling about that.  Or doesn't it matter because they aren't White?
4  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: WTB: King 3BF+ (SS is even more better) on: Yesterday at 08:22 PM
Note that the 3B+ is currently not made with F-attachments.  The Model 2125 came as a straight or F-attachment.  I believe they stopped making the 2125 in the late 1990s (I tested an Anniversary 2125F Silver Sonic).

The 2125F is not a real substitute for a Bach 36B; it sounds "smaller".  More like a slightly larger 3B.

I agree with everybody else.  For $8,000 it should come from a famous player and be in pristine condition.  That's almost 6 times what they normally go for.
5  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Forget quality, listen to the volume! on: Yesterday at 10:50 AM
I did a gig with a local orchestra on Saturday, which included New World Symphony.
Got to say it was a refreshing change to play in a section which didn't go OTT with volume. Sometimes the 1st trom tends to let rip and show what he can do. Not this time. Nice controlled, balanced section sound. Smack in tune. Wonderful stuff, and a pleasure to be part of.


Did they have a tuba there for the 18 notes in the 2nd Movement?  At least half the time we don't use one; other times the Tuba player will play misc. percussion (triangle in 3rd mvt and one cymbal crash in the 4th).
6  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Outer slide: Sleeves vs. No Sleeves vs. "extruded?" on: Yesterday at 10:41 AM
This raises another issue: how are they extruded without changing the inner diameter of the tube?

This is especially notable with inners--even though the stockings are significantly larger than the legs, the inner diameter remains the same. This is also true of every outer I've ever measured that had contiguous expanded handle sections.

My guess would be that you would partially extrude the tube, then change the outer extrusion die to one with a larger ID.  Exactly how you would do this I leave to the Mechanical Engineers to explain (I'm a Chemical Engineer).
7  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: What are the tuning tendencies of partials above high Bb? on: Yesterday at 08:24 AM
Part of the problem is that manufacturers generally try to get all the partials to work from pedals to high Bb, which is considered a "normal" range for a tenor trombone.  The farther you get above high Bb, the more the compensations built into the horn start to break down.  The compensations are different for different makers (and sometimes are build dependent) so while we can generally use the same positions from high Bb to F above, the stratosphere is anybody's guess.

My suggestion?  Put in a French Horn mouthpiece and stick your hand in the bell Evil Evil Evil
8  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Brad Close sackbuts on: Yesterday at 08:12 AM
Thanks, Brad.  I'll google around. :)

Good luck with these!

--Andy in OKC

If you look at Ken Biggs (KBiggs) avatar, he's holding his trombone like they hold the sackbuts in a lot of the pictures (which I assume wasn't an invention of the artists).  It's not going to work well on an instrument with lousy slide action and an unsoldered mouthpiece, though.
9  Creation and Performance / Music, Concerts and Recordings / Re: Hovaness Concerto no 3 on: Yesterday at 08:08 AM
I have a set of parts (1 each) for Religious Singer, which I think is 29.  It was published by Robert King.  I don't ever remember seeing a recording of it, though.  Either with Euphonium or trombone.
10  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: Spam cell calls on: Jun 25, 2017, 07:54PM
What happens in the boiler rooms making the calls is that there is an automatic dialer that dials several numbers and they answer the first one that picks up.  Rest of the calls that get picked up go into a holding pattern, which you probably hung up on.

Some of these are REALLY annoying.  Things like "IRS" non-payment calls, "Microsoft" claiming I have a virus, etc.
11  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: God on: Jun 25, 2017, 04:00PM
Assuming that we describing the Christian God I think we should include:

- God is triune: ie
 (1) the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons,
 (2) each Person is fully God,
 (3) there is only one God.
- God cannot lie
- God is love
- God is just and holy

I'm not sure about immutable because Jesus became flesh.

There are a few others but I will want to clarify them a bit first

Why do we have to limit ourselves to a Christian god?  Jews and Muslims worship a single god with no offspring.  God taps people to do his work on Earth because he is immaterial (not comprised of matter).

We have other religions where there are multiple gods and the rule is by committee; each god having sway over a single aspect.
12  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: 4 Trombones in an Orchestra on: Jun 24, 2017, 06:21AM
Even in groups that require auditions, compromises are sometimes made - most often in order to fill positions on hard-to-find instruments.

True, but that's not the case here.  They have 4 players for 3 chairs.  How do you make it equitable?  Lots of suggestions here.
13  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: New scammer!!!! on: Jun 23, 2017, 07:28PM
Again, not a Forum member.

Thanks for the heads up!
14  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: 4 Trombones in an Orchestra on: Jun 22, 2017, 01:29PM
I don't understand why you'd have someone out at all who couldn't cover the part??

Many community orchestras take all comers -- they are a place to come and play.  Sometimes a bunch of folks show up -- more than you can assign parts to.  So you have two choices: allow more than one to a part or audition to take the best 3 (or whatever).

Some other groups audition.  They demand a certain level of musicianship.  But a beginner or new returnee doesn't usually have that musicianship so where can they get it?  At the Community Orchestra that takes all comers.
15  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: The dumbest political protest? on: Jun 22, 2017, 12:12PM
Using theater to parody a leader has gone on for a LONG time. 

There have been Julius Caesar performances where Caesar was Hitler, Mussolini, Tsar Nicholas II, Tsar Alexander II, King George III, King Charles I, Oliver Cromwell, and others.

Some of you may remember a parody of Shakespear's MacBeth called MacBird, where the target was Lyndon Johnson.

I agree with Piano Man that the demonstrations in the colleges against Right Wing speakers is unpardonable.  You need to hear both sides of an argument.  While I may disagree with their statements, I support the right for them to make them.  But they must similarly support the right for me to state mine.
16  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: 4 Trombones in an Orchestra on: Jun 22, 2017, 11:54AM
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Playing a part meant for another instrument is absolutely ridiculous.

Beats "dead air".  I agree that the proper instrument for a part is ideal.  But some small community ensembles may have a problem filling chairs.  Especially for free with no money for "ringers".
17  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: What's better than a Yamaha Custom Alto with a D valve? on: Jun 22, 2017, 11:45AM
It looks too long to be a D valve.  Maybe a C valve?
18  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Jun 22, 2017, 11:43AM
...why do most Americans disapprove of Trump?

I would hesitate to say "most".  His disapproval rating is at 58% which is a majority but hardly "most".

His approval rate is around 36%, which is rather disappointing for a newly elected President.

I wonder how many of his supporters now have "buyer's remorse".
19  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: What's better than a Yamaha Custom Alto with a D valve? on: Jun 22, 2017, 11:34AM
Doesn't look like a D valve; more likely a Bb valve.  Very German style with the thong. Good!
20  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: 4 Trombones in an Orchestra on: Jun 22, 2017, 10:46AM
2nd Bassoon could work and it would be interesting to see what would happen if a soli or solo presented itself while covering 2nd bassoon.

Beethoven's 6th Symphony has a 2nd bassoon solo in the 3rd movement where the bassoon is imitating a trombone in a town band.  Just desserts ;-)

In one community orchestra I've played bassoon, horn, and cello parts at various times.  If they didn't rehearse on a day that I have other commitments I might play with them more.
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