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1  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces / Re: Playing tenor trombone with a 1.5G on: Today at 07:43 PM
The reason for suggesting the Alessi mouthpiece is that Joe uses a big rim and a shallow cup.  His mouthpieces are around a 1 1/2 G rim with a cup sized for a tenor.  If your musculature works with that, go for the Alessi (or the Griego -- New York, I think).

I've played 1st Trombone parts on a 1 1/2 G sized mouthpiece.  The sound is definitely wrong and blend with smaller horns is odd at best.  Save that for emergency situations.
2  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Megatone vs. Regular on: Today at 07:39 PM
On that?  Probably none.  A 4H is a small horn and trying to make it "bigger" with a high mass mouthpiece is not the way to go.  All it will do is make you work harder.
3  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: leadpipes for a Conn 88HKO bone on: Today at 07:37 PM
R is for the "Remington" shank mouthpiece (B&S Taper) and won't fit most large shank mouthpieces.  Don't know about the other two.  Try them and see which one works best for you.
4  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Today at 07:35 PM
Note to Dusty: an attack on one Christian is not an attack on all Christians.  We won't paint Christians with the same brush you use for Muslims (which is quit inappropriate).
5  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Today at 01:33 PM
Dusty, have you seen some of these guys in Montana and Idaho?  Making armed camps to resist the Government taking away their guns?  Anti-Muslim, Anti-Jew, and even anti-Mexican.

We're not talking about guys like you, are we?
6  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Why not the small bore for "legit" or classical style playing? on: Today at 09:05 AM
I don't have a clue about this but in the history is there any that use say a Bach 36 as the main horn? Or won an audition on it?



Jacob Raichman played principal in the Boston Symphony on a Bach 36.  Hansotte, his 2nd, played a Conn 8H with F.  Johannes Rochut (Principal in the 1920s) played an even smaller instrument.

There is a famous picture of the Boston Symphony Orchestra trombone section of around 1910 showing the three of them with Holton-made German style trombones.
7  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Yesterday at 05:57 PM
It must be really tough for Dusty.  He speaks a certain shorthand that a lot of Right Wingers speak and it's impossible for him to get through to the rest of us who don't understand him.  We probably need a translator who can convert Rush Limbaugh into terms we can understand.
8  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Why not the small bore for "legit" or classical style playing? on: Yesterday at 04:19 PM
My point exactly. Let's turn the wheel! Too many frustrated students, and too few MUSICIANS who play the trombone.

You and we are not in a position to "turn the wheel".  If you want a job in an orchestra you will need to pass an audition.  To pass that audition you need to play a large bore.  Once you have that job you can try to use whatever you think is appropriate.  If you are too radical for the orchestra, you will have to pass another audition at another orchestra.  It's the way of the world and you won't get any points for charging at the windmills.
9  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Yesterday at 03:05 PM
I live in Sweden. What you are up to in here right now is guesswork at best. If there's anything you're curious about feel free to ask. But don't make us a tool for whipping out more brown shirts.

We are commenting about our Esteemed Leader mentioning how much crime the Middle Eastern refugees are committing in Sweden.  We hear from Swedes in our Media (radio, television, print) that this is not the case.  Is that what you see as well?

This is not a reflection on Swedes at all.
10  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments / Re: Upgrading from student to pro-level horn - Yamaha 882O? on: Yesterday at 12:48 PM
One thing you could do is to put a length of clear vinyl tubing on the bar (I think 1/4" should work).

Some folks have put those triangular pencil grips on the bar.

Forum Member Lawrie has a side business making nice paddle covers.  Shipped from Australia with love. ;-)
11  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Pedal Tone on: Yesterday at 12:30 PM
I think it was "Clarinet Candy." I don't know if I have the piece because I played third part for this one, and the copies for this music are scarce for some reason, so I and the other person who plays third with me kind of distribute copies of music - so I could be holding "Dawn of a New Day" while they hold onto "Invicta."


I don't remember a pedal tone in "Clarinet Candy" (which is a feature for the clarinets).

For your music problem, you realize you could take a picture of the music with your phone and then transfer it to your computer and print it out.  Might be an easy solution to your copy problem.  I have a printer that is also a scanner so I will often scan my music in and create a PDF of it.  Then I load it into my tablet and use that for rehearsals.
12  Practice Break / Chit-Chat / Re: Bunker 2017 on: Yesterday at 12:24 PM
Good luck with the cyclone, Grah.  Looks like it's keeping to the relatively unpopulated North Coast.

And watch out for Cyclone/Taiphoon/Hurricane Bambi.  It's not as gentle as its name.
13  Teaching & Learning / Practice Room / Re: Playing an octave above what is written for an audition. on: Yesterday at 12:21 PM
If you can play it an octave higher and it sounds like you aren't working, then you can try.

But I'd strongly recommend you play it as written and play it WELL.  You will get much more credit for playing it well as written than playing it an octave higher and lousy.

If it's an audition for an ensemble where nobody knows you, play it as written and make sure it sings.
14  Practice Break / Purely Politics / Re: Our unbalanced POTUS on: Yesterday at 12:12 PM
I would surprised if there weren't one or more Swedish trombone players on this forum.

I'd love to hear from them on this subject.

They, like everybody else in Sweden, are trying to figure out what Trump is talking about! :-P
15  Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists / Re: Pedal Tone on: Yesterday at 12:02 PM
In concert band I like to have one good player on each part and let the rest of the players distribute.  First trombone tends to be the high part and 3rd trombone often is a bass trombone part with notes below the range of a normal tenor trombone.

In Jazz Bands, often the 2nd player gets the solos (although sometimes 1st does; especially in school arrangements).  4th Trombone is usually the bass trombone and often gets the notes below the range of a normal tenor trombone.

All the parts are important in each ensemble.  Otherwise, why would you have them?
16  Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications and Maintenance / Re: Best Slide Cream? on: Yesterday at 11:52 AM
Bach works.  It's probably somebody else's with their name on it.

The one we consider the "gold standard" is Trombotine.  Comes in a tube.  I have a tube that is 15 years old and is not finished.

Another popular cream is SuperSlick.  Some folks really like it.  I used it for a few years and thought it was good as well.

Some folks like Conn Formula 3.  Very similar to the Bach.

Note that there is a little bottle of silicone drops for Formula 3 or for Superslick.  It's used to make them a little slicker.  Works on Trombotine as well.

If you are cheap, try some Pond's cold cream.  It used to be what we all used but there seems to have been a manufacturing change at Cheseborough-Pond's around the 1970s that changed it.  Still works, but not as good as it used to.  You have to use very little of the newer Pond's formula.

Note that Posaunus did not mention any slide creams.  These are all silicone preparations for the slide.  If you decide to use one, you MUST clean all the old slide cream from the inside of the outer slide and the outside of the inner slide.  Most creams will cause silicone preparations to gum up terribly.
17  Town Hall / Comments and Suggestions / Re: Can't change my profile! on: Yesterday at 09:17 AM
In the Profile settings, the second option is "I have my own picture" and lets you reference a picture by URL.  Mine refers to a picture in my Gallery.
18  Town Hall / Comments and Suggestions / Re: Can't change my profile! on: Yesterday at 09:08 AM
Your avatar has to be located somewhere on line (Photobucket, Picassa, etc.).  You can only reference a picture; we have no more storage space for ANY images.  I wish I could fix this.  I'm sure there are tons of pictures in our storage associated with Classified Ads that are no longer here but I can't identify them.  Seems only Richard Byrd can change this.
19  Creation and Performance / Performance / Re: Parry's use of the alto trombone on: Yesterday at 09:04 AM
How historically informed does your performance have to be?

Ed's point about a small tenor being used in the original performance is correct.

But you have another piece that requires alto trombone (does it?).

My experience playing in an orchestra supporting a chorus is that when the high trombone supports the altos, a tenor often is just too "big".

You are probably not excited about hauling two horns to a gig.

A Conn 36H or similar alto with Bb attachment can probably cover the part and blend accurately enough with the tenor trombone to work.

But it won't be "historically informed".
20  Classified Advertisements / Classified Advertisements / Re: Im new and looking for a decent horn with an F attachment on: Yesterday at 08:57 AM
... I would also work on learning tenor clef as it's extremely useful going forward and is something you'll see over and over again. The Blazhevich Clef Studies book is a great place to start.

I'm going to disagree with you just a bit.  The Blazhevich Clef Studies are a great set of exercises to firm up your clef studies, but I'd recommend an "introduction" type of book first.  Reginald Fink's "Introducing the Tenor Clef" or the Brad Edwards book are much better for a first book in clefs.

I had to learn clefs from Blazhevich and don't want to inflict my pain on anybody else when something easier is out there.
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