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 on: Today at 05:21 PM 
Started by MoominDave - Last post by drizabone
Jeremiah 5 text


 - more anguish


 - God tells Jeremiah to run around Jerusalem and try to find one faithful person who acts justly and searches for the truth, so that God can pardon Jerusalem as a whole.
 - He can't find a single person.
 - But Jeremiah realizes that the people he's been looking at are poor and ignorant about the laws of God. He decides to look at the rich and see if they're any better.
 - Turns out that the rich aren't any better; they broke their covenant with God, too.
 - Lions, wolves, and leopards (a metaphor for the invading army) are all gathered outside the cities just waiting to kill these faithless people.
 - God says it's impossible to pardon these people because they've followed other gods and coveted their neighbor's wives.
 - God orders Israel destroyed like a bad vineyard. The people and their false prophets have been comforting themselves by predicting they'll avoid punishment, but that's just wishful thinking.
 - The so-called prophets are now an empty wind without God's word in them.
 - The word that God's put in Jeremiah's mouth is a fire that will devour the people like they're made out of wood.
 - God's sending the Babylonians to destroy Israel, and the Babylonians are an ancient and different people. The Israelites are unfamiliar with them and don't know their language.
 - The invaders will demolish everything, destroying all the produce, killing everyone's sons and daughters, and pulverizing cities.
 - God won't destroy Israel utterly, but they'll pay for serving foreign gods by being led into exile and being forced to serve a foreign people.
 - God asks the people if they tremble before him and tells those who have eyes and ears but can't see or hear to listen up and pay attention.
 - God says that he's the one who prevents the chaotic sea from overwhelming the land, but people still don't appreciate him.
 - In their hearts, they're forgetful and disobedient, and don't remember God who controls the changing seasons and guides the growth of their crops and harvest.
 - The wicked men among the people are like hunters who trap humans, tricking them into doing evil things.
 - They've all gotten rich at the expense of the orphans and other needy people.
 - God rhetorically asks if he's going to punish them
 - The people love their false prophets and priests, but when the end comes, they'll definitely regret it.

Questions and Observations

1)  v21 is Judah in Isaiah 6:9,10

2) I was thinking about our ideas about Isaiah being right wing and Jesus on the left
   - how you would classify Jerimiah?
   - I think that the right/left wing today really has multiple dimensions: political, social, moral, economic.  But we often just mash them all up together.
     - the stereotypical Right winger is democratic, has conservative morals, but thinks people are free to act socially for their own benefit except for gay marriage.
     - the stereotypical Left winger is socialist thinks moral decisions are up to the individual (except for pedophilia) but thnk people should care for society and the environment.
   - I think Isaiah would have had conservative morals and have believed in social obligations.  Jesus and Jeremiah too
   - I am aware that this is me in the early stages of thinking about this, so reserve the right to make adjustments.

 on: Today at 05:11 PM 
Started by danhaak86 - Last post by NWHarry
I am interested but I need to sell my Yamaha first!
Yamaha YSL-683G, a straight tenor (.525) with a 8.5 gold brass bell.
Might you be interested in some type of trade?
Thanks, Harry Smith 360-601-0662 cell/text

 on: Today at 05:11 PM 
Started by ntap - Last post by ntap
Wow! Very interesting about the screw on the spit valve. I'll have to try that and let you all know how it goes. I have been to Chuck's many times, and have a few of his pipes, actually.  In the same vein of what Chris was talking about, it's hard to find what's right without taking them on a gig, especially Chuck's shop used to be a big room with not a lot of carpet to soak up the sound, so naturally everything sounded good.

Sam, last I hard was that Chuck was going to work at a shop on Long Island. I'll have to look up the specifics....

 on: Today at 04:50 PM 
Started by JubbaDaTrombone - Last post by Matt K
Per the Shires components question: you can't always be sure (although I've put together a few setups buying parts that were available and have been pleased so far with the results even compared to ones I've tried at conventions).  But there are common setups that do work together. That may be because some parts were designed to be used together at Shires but we don't think of it that way because the parts literally aren't 'permanently' attached together as they are on fixed horns.  Afterall, bear in mind that even Bach, Conn, Yamaha and others that only sell 'fixed' horns offer varying options and there's no more a guarantee that the parts you have assembled were arranged in that particular configuration for anything more than the whim of the person who purchased it.

Also bear in mind the immense popularity in the 80s and 90s of adding Thayer valves to Bach instruments - horns that existed prior to the thayer valve ever being invented in some cases.  Those certainly were not designed to be played with a Thayer, but they sure worked, or at least a lot of people thought they worked enough to get custom work done to assemble them that way.

 on: Today at 04:43 PM 
Started by TasiaDC - Last post by Alex
Cost for a start. If you want to play around then Leadpipes are about as cheap as it gets and a lot more options available than a slide change.
If you have just started playing again after such a long time then I would just leave everything where it is and get yourself settled with playing again.
This advice is from a half decent amatuer player...you may get different/better advice from someone else, but sometimes it is too easy to blame one part for any issues you may be having. Do you have a point of reference for thinking you need a new slide ?
You can make big changes in feel and response with a leadpipe. I cant give you specifics as I dont play a Conn 110H, but having the leadpipe pulled is unlikely to affect the resale value should you decide to go down the route of a different instrument.

 on: Today at 04:38 PM 
Started by ntap - Last post by ChadA
I haven't the faintest idea why that would work. Can you enlighten me?

Thank you!

What Gabe said.  :)  My tenor is a Getzen 4147IB and Cristan Griego messed with screw to change the slotting a bit at ATW this year.  Had I not played it in several different "settings" Cristan did, I wouldn't have believed it.  Some trumpet friends of mine mess with the spit valve screw on their Shires trumpets to free things up or tighten them up as needed.

 on: Today at 04:37 PM 
Started by louilou - Last post by Matt K
Glad you like it. I like the YSL 600 series, solid horns.

 on: Today at 04:31 PM 
Started by louilou - Last post by louilou
I bought a Yamaha 640 YSL .525 horn. Brand new. I mostly
buy used horns and play them, and then I sell them.  However, I
was curious about trying a brand new horn. I have taken this new Yamaha 640 ysl  to four gigs
(two salsa gigs, one church gig, one big band rehearsal) with a Brass Ark
Clarke gold plated mouthpiece and this has been a very good revelation.
This is a fantastic horn!

Sound- excellent
Slide - excellent
trigger- excellent
tuning- excellent
response- excellent
ergonomics - excellent
workmanship - excellent
case - excellent
bang for my buck - excellent
ability to play many styles - excellent
low range - nice and open
high range - very responsive

Have any of the members played this horn as your main axe?
I am impressed!

 on: Today at 04:27 PM 
Started by khedger - Last post by stealthheartocarinaZ
It really depends on the trombone. We have two trombones that are tuned in Eb.

 on: Today at 04:25 PM 
Started by Whitbey - Last post by Whitbey
..the original question refers to a 50B unless I have that wrong. It looks like the question is about the under-the-thumb lever used on NY and Mt. Vernon 50B's..and other F attachment models from those eras..

That is correct.
My horn had a solder mark that lined up like the old style lever.  I bought the horn from Gardinalli in the mid 70's. I took a slide off a newer horn because it was faster and sounded good. I was told that the store got the horn in the 60's as a single valve bass and since they had it for a while and it did not sell the store sent it back to Bach for a second valve conversion.
The guy was trying to explain the solder mark to me and I should not worry about it because he thought people were going to like the old horns better in the future, so it was a better horn. He also explained to me that the word Corporation was added and that was bad because it was not a corporation bell. The keys on the horn as I bought it were the stacked roller style. There was not a serial number on the bell section.

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