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 on: Today at 01:33 PM 
Started by slide advantage - Last post by Ellrod
At the end of the day, Trump remains true to himself. He is a bully.

And not very stupid.

 on: Today at 01:33 PM 
Started by Ryebone - Last post by Matt K
To clarify, there is a difference between gold plating and gold brass.  From what I'm seeing in this thread, the term is being used interchangeably here but I might be overlooking something.

Gold plating is when you literally plate a raw brass bell with a layer of silver and then a layer of gold.

Gold brass is a brass alloy that is somewhere between yellow brass and pure copper (ca. 85% copper and 15% zinc memory serving).

I'm assuming that this horn is the latter, correct?

 on: Today at 01:32 PM 
Started by slide advantage - Last post by slide advantage
At the end of the day, Trump remains true to himself. He is a bully.

 on: Today at 01:30 PM 
Started by BillO - Last post by John the Theologian
His book and those of Elaine Pagels are well worth reading, because they give you a viewpoint you would never suspect from the orthodoxy.

By all means read both sides of it, critically.  

You should also check out Spong.  His logic isn't as detailed but he's quite readable, and most of what he says is mainstream liberal Christian.  Not all, he's got a weird theory about liturgy and the gospels that's intriguing and well argued, but he didn't quite convince me.  

Most accessible critique of Ehrman, Pagels, et al-- along with some of the crazies such as the author of The DaVinci Code-- from a traditional Christian POV is this volume.  If you read the ones Tim suggested, you should read this at least for balance. 


 on: Today at 01:22 PM 
Started by Ryebone - Last post by Ryebone
 Yamaha YSL 682G
Post by: BGuttman on Oct 28, 2006, 06:53PM
Just for the record, I have been playing a 682G since 1986.  It's a 682 with a Yamaha 1-piece 8" gold brass bell.  Same semi-open attachment (no tight bends) and same oversize conventional rotor (but not as big as the 682B).

I bought mine from Osmun and had the bumpers replaced with springs, so I probably have the only 682 with Conn-like slide springs.  Btw, the slide is 20 years old and still fast as greased lightening.

I used my 682G for everything, including Orchestra, Concert Band, and even put a big mouthpiece on it to make a "chamber bass".  My one complaint about this instrument is that the two slides together aren't long enough to make the attachment an E; I'd have liked a crook to replace the smaller one that put the attachment in flat E for the times I needed it.

 on: Today at 01:20 PM 
Started by slide advantage - Last post by robcat2075
"beyond stupid" say top Republicans

President Trump personally lobbied House Republicans to pass health care legislation this year, but the Trump team’s heavy-handed tactics have been ineffective in the Senate...

[GOP Majority Leader] McConnell made clear his unhappiness to the White House after a “super PAC” aligned with Mr. Trump started an ad campaign against Senator Dean Heller, Republican of Nevada, when he said last week that he opposed the health care bill.

The majority leader called the White House chief of staff, Reince Priebus, to complain that the attacks were “beyond stupid,” according to two Republicans with knowledge of the tense exchange on Saturday.

(Note that coordination with pacs and super pacs is supposed to be illegal but no bothers to even pretend that now.)

Josh Holmes, Mr. McConnell’s former chief of staff, said, “That the White House is asking people to take a tough vote and then running ads against members while we’re still in negotiations is so dumb it’s amazing we even have to have the conversation.”

The conservative elites just don't understand Trump's ninja-like political skills.

 on: Today at 01:19 PM 
Started by BillO - Last post by timothy42b
Just as high for the atheist, BTW.

Yes.  (assuming a vengeful deity in both cases) 

Exactly as high.  Out of the thousands of possible Gods, the chances of picking the right one are equivalent to the atheist.  Slim to none.

However there is a significant difference in perceived certainty, and that's a rather important concept.  Regardless of which God, the believer tends to be highly certain he picked the right one, and highly resistant (often violently) to any change.  Atheists in general are FAR less certain. 

Overheard at a Notre Dame commencement in about 1974:  "We all worship the same God.  You in your way, and............we in His." 

 on: Today at 01:14 PM 
Started by Ryebone - Last post by Ryebone
Good question. Yamaha said so and indicated that in its' marketing. Yamaha stated that there were only 100 or so of these with the gold plating that escaped the factory

 on: Today at 01:12 PM 
Started by MoominDave - Last post by BillO
You are asking the question why is the text the way it is, which is a different one than interpreting the text before us.  We can ask those questions, but I'm not sure it is all that fruitful in interpreting the text itself. 
Don't let the course of the discussion move us from our goal.

I did interpret Ezekiel 17:12 as God being surprised.  I also explained why I made that interpretation.  My other question "But God being God, why be rhetorical?" is not that important to me.  It just points out the the verse was written as though God was trying to influence the audience.  This is consistent with God looking for validation, which is consistent with God having to make a decision that was not expected, or at least, hoped not to have to make.

If you want to convince me my interpretation is invalid, then do so by offering a justified argument like I did.  I can be convinced, but not by telling me I'm wrong without some justification.

 on: Today at 01:02 PM 
Started by BillO - Last post by John the Theologian
Uh, also, the stakes are higher.

Vote for the wrong politician, your taxes go up.

Sign up with the wrong Deity, be tortured in hell for billions of years.  Once you're sure you're right, you DARE NOT second guess. 

Just as high for the atheist, BTW.

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