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« on: May 18, 2017, 04:19PM »

I'm looking at buying a used Bach 42. I tried using bachloyalist to date it based on the serial numbers but I wasn't confident so I thought I'd post it here.

Slide serial: 384xx
Rotor valve serial: 853xx

It's a Bach 42 with open wrap and a rotor. The bell says Elkhart, IN but it doesn't say corporation.

Any idea what year this horn was made?
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2017, 04:59PM »

I think that previous owner/s matched parts from different eras. Slide from 70's and bell from 90's or later.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2017, 07:39PM »

The number on the valve is not a "serial number" as such, more of a production number so as to keep the rotor/casing pairs together. They aren't "tracked" like slide serials are. So using the slide serial number should give the age f the slide pretty well. (Don't have my lists with me at present to check, sorry) The only other clue is the bell engraving. If it doesn't say "Corporation", then it is a later Elkhart bell, but difficult to pin it down as specifically as a slide.

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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2017, 07:45PM »

Buy it a nice dinner and some flowers.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2017, 10:28PM »

Buy it a nice dinner and some flowers.

I'd bring the flowers on the second date. Bachs are finicky.

The 42BO is a '90s creation, unless I'm mistaken, so the slide and bell are mismatched. No big deal, IMO.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2017, 11:21PM »

The slide is from the late 1970's.  Probably an improvement..
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2017, 05:57AM »

Here's the bell engraving: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mb599ksvdfsh66r/%24_27.jpg?dl=0
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2017, 06:42AM »

I'd bring the flowers on the second date. Bachs are finicky.

The 42BO is a '90s creation, unless I'm mistaken, so the slide and bell are mismatched. No big deal, IMO.

I got a 36BO recently and while I really like it, I hate the open wrap design. How hard would it have been do make a wrap that doesn't stick 4" out from the back of the horn?
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2017, 06:54AM »

I got a 36BO recently and while I really like it, I hate the open wrap design. How hard would it have been do make a wrap that doesn't stick 4" out from the back of the horn?

Look at any Yamaha F-attachment like the 620 (or my 682).  Look at the Massimo LaRosa wrap by Shires.  Lots of examples.  Personally I like my Bach 36C wrap (standard, just like the B).
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2017, 07:24AM »

... How hard would it have been do make a wrap that doesn't stick 4" out from the back of the horn?

You mean like the standard wrap that they have made forever and that works really, really well?...  Yeah, open wraps are marketing nonsense, in my opinion.
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2017, 08:08PM »

The Conn 88HO is even worse.

However, there is more to the open wrap than just the water not having to be emptied. It definitely does have different playing characteristics, so it depends on what type of F-attachment response you want.
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