Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length

 
Advanced search

1069494 Posts in 70967 Topics- by 18768 Members - Latest Member: smurfdad
Jump to:  
The Trombone ForumPractice BreakFound on the 'Net(Moderators: RedHotMama, BFW) eBay: Edwards with missing parts?
Pages: [1]   Go Down
Print
Author Topic: eBay: Edwards with missing parts?  (Read 703 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Noahharry
*
Offline Offline

Location:
Joined: Dec 27, 2016
Posts: 13

View Profile
« on: Jun 08, 2017, 12:00PM »

So many questions.  First, is it really missing any parts and is this just a steal? Especially after it says "missing parts...I think" Do they just mean the slide? What the heck is that white grocery bag material on it? Why is the seller seemingly so reluctant to answer questions? This seems very sketchy...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trombone-Edwards-/142407350537?hash=item212823b909:g:SFYAAOSwX9FZNvU8
Logged
hyperbolica
*
Offline Offline

Location: Eastern US
Joined: Oct 19, 2014
Posts: 1260

View Profile
« Reply #1 on: Jun 08, 2017, 12:28PM »

It looks like the guy is just hired to sell items that may still have value from settled insurance cases. The instrument was probably damaged during shipping, and the white plastic stuff is wrapping. You can see the bell was damaged, probably compressed. The guy selling it is clueless about what it is, and doesn't care to know, he's selling a bunch of other stuff he doesn't understand as well, so doesn't want to get involved beyond just conducting the sale. Yes, it's a bargain if you're willing to take the risk that the valve works and that there isn't any other damage.
Logged
Matt K

*
*
Offline Offline

Location:
Joined: May 6, 2010
Posts: 6792

View Profile
« Reply #2 on: Jun 08, 2017, 12:57PM »

They probably aren't a trombonist but know enough that trombones should have slides. If its missing slide then its not a bell section for sale, its a trombone with missing parts. At least that's what I think.  Don't know
Logged

What's in a name? that which we call a tenor-bass posaune
By any other name would smell as sweet;
Japheel
*
Offline Offline

Location:
Joined: Nov 26, 2016
Posts: 2

View Profile
« Reply #3 on: Jun 08, 2017, 12:58PM »

Do Edwards engravings on the bell really look like that? I think it might be a case similar to the edwards bass trombone here http://www.ebay.com/itm/Professional-Edwards-Bass-trombone-with-Double-Independent-Thayer-valves-/263011819628?hash=item3d3cb9e06c:g:p6oAAOSwsXFZLdTp where its a chinese knockoff using the edwards name. Maybe I'm wrong though
Logged
tbathras
*
Offline Offline

Location: Mid-Coast Maine
Joined: Jul 15, 2013
Posts: 934

View Profile
« Reply #4 on: Jun 08, 2017, 01:06PM »

Yeah, the engraving on the bell for sale seems legit - also has the bell spec stamp, too.
Logged

"Remember, your trombone is not a weapon!" -Ben van Dijk
Blackthorne

*
Offline Offline

Location: Omaha, NE
Joined: Dec 19, 2012
Posts: 89

View Profile
« Reply #5 on: Jun 08, 2017, 01:54PM »

Wow, you weren't kidding with regard to his reluctance to answer questions.

Heaven forbid people want a little more information on what they might be buying.  "I don't know what trombone valves or slides are".  About five minutes of research would alleviate that issue, considering that, like I said, people might want to know how well the Thayer valve/tuning slides operate.  Yeah, it might (I say might because there are still 5 1/2 days left on the auction) go for a steal, but people are still gonna want to know what they're buying.
Logged

Getzen 3047AFR / Griego Deco 5M/Bach 4G Megatone / Protec IPAC
King 607F (silver) / Bach 6.5AL Megatone / Protec MAX
King Cleveland 606 / Besson 7C / King coffin case
Olds Super / Schilke 42B / SKB small tenor case
greenbean
*
Offline Offline

Location: San Francisco
Joined: Dec 26, 2012
Posts: 1470
"Brass Kahuna"


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: Jun 08, 2017, 02:07PM »

Never mind.  I am just confusing matters...
Logged

--Bach 50B (1966)
tbathras
*
Offline Offline

Location: Mid-Coast Maine
Joined: Jul 15, 2013
Posts: 934

View Profile
« Reply #7 on: Jun 08, 2017, 02:28PM »

Knockoff...

The bell section (from the original post in this thread) for sale is a knockoff?  Didn't look like it to me, but it's been a while since I've see an Edwards.  Indeed the one mentioned that is a full horn is surely a knockoff, no question there.
Logged

"Remember, your trombone is not a weapon!" -Ben van Dijk
greenbean
*
Offline Offline

Location: San Francisco
Joined: Dec 26, 2012
Posts: 1470
"Brass Kahuna"


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: Jun 08, 2017, 02:41PM »

The bell section (from the original post in this thread) for sale is a knockoff?  Didn't look like it to me, but it's been a while since I've see an Edwards.  Indeed the one mentioned that is a full horn is surely a knockoff, no question there.

Ah.. just ignore me.  Sorry for the confusion.
Logged

--Bach 50B (1966)
Blowero

*
Offline Offline

Location: Southern California
Joined: Nov 1, 2006
Posts: 1641

View Profile WWW
« Reply #9 on: Jun 08, 2017, 11:53PM »

That's the special tone-enhancing plastic coating. ;-)
Logged

Brass repair, modifications, custom parts and instruments

http://brassmedic.com
zarkosis
Jude Morris

*
Offline Offline

Location: Frisco, Texas
Joined: Feb 28, 2016
Posts: 45

View Profile
« Reply #10 on: Jun 09, 2017, 05:38PM »

When there is a steal like this please stop bidding 5 days before it's over! Or bidding 80$ to 100$ more than the last guy! You are just making the person who gets it have to pay more! We are all friends here right? :) Someone could have got this for 200-300 bucks :(
Logged

̶I̶ ̶g̶o̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶l̶u̶e̶s̶ ̶:̶}̶
I got the classical :}
bigbassbone1

*
Offline Offline

Location: melbourne, australia
Joined: Sep 7, 2012
Posts: 846

View Profile
« Reply #11 on: Jun 09, 2017, 06:00PM »

When there is a steal like this please stop bidding 5 days before it's over! Or bidding 80$ to 100$ more than the last guy! You are just making the person who gets it have to pay more! We are all friends here right? :) Someone could have got this for 200-300 bucks :(


Hahaha...... what? That is kind of what ebay is... unfortunately its rare to get something at a price too good to be true. And if its looks like that is the case of course lots of people will want to try!
Logged
Noahharry
*
Offline Offline

Location:
Joined: Dec 27, 2016
Posts: 13

View Profile
« Reply #12 on: Jun 09, 2017, 06:17PM »

When there is a steal like this please stop bidding 5 days before it's over! Or bidding 80$ to 100$ more than the last guy! You are just making the person who gets it have to pay more! We are all friends here right? :) Someone could have got this for 200-300 bucks :(

To be honest I kinda regret posting this because everyone on the forum has seen this and is now bidding $80 more dollars each time.
Logged
zarkosis
Jude Morris

*
Offline Offline

Location: Frisco, Texas
Joined: Feb 28, 2016
Posts: 45

View Profile
« Reply #13 on: Jun 09, 2017, 06:25PM »

Exactly, I saw this right as it was listed but each day I checked it went up like 100$. :( But hey, I could always just go to the Edwards House and get these parts, it's seeming less like a deal every day.

Also I have a question, does anyone know what the lacquer discoloration is? It doesn't look like acid bleeding to me, maybe heat marks from repair?
Logged

̶I̶ ̶g̶o̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶l̶u̶e̶s̶ ̶:̶}̶
I got the classical :}
zarkosis
Jude Morris

*
Offline Offline

Location: Frisco, Texas
Joined: Feb 28, 2016
Posts: 45

View Profile
« Reply #14 on: Jun 09, 2017, 06:29PM »

Also go read this sellers negative feedback! ITS HILARIOUS!!! Me and my dad had quite a chuckle from how evil he is!  ;-)

Plus when I asked if the valve worked and the tuning slides moved he just said "I do not know what a trombone valve or valve slide is. STOP ASKING ME QUESTIONS. also no other apparent dents. I".

I feel like giving this guy money would be bad for my morals!  :D Angry man!
Logged

̶I̶ ̶g̶o̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶l̶u̶e̶s̶ ̶:̶}̶
I got the classical :}
zarkosis
Jude Morris

*
Offline Offline

Location: Frisco, Texas
Joined: Feb 28, 2016
Posts: 45

View Profile
« Reply #15 on: Jun 09, 2017, 06:33PM »

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=877444unix&myworld=true&items=25&iid=-1&de=off&which=negative&interval=365

"The only thing 'cheep' is your education" Priceless! But rude!
Logged

̶I̶ ̶g̶o̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶l̶u̶e̶s̶ ̶:̶}̶
I got the classical :}
Larry Preston Roberson
*
Offline Offline

Location: Georgia
Joined: May 24, 2016
Posts: 145

View Profile
« Reply #16 on: Jun 13, 2017, 10:37PM »

So many questions...What the heck is that white grocery bag material on it?

That's the special tone-enhancing plastic coating. ;-)

It was Edwards' prototype for the Harmonic Bridges and Pillars.
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
Print
Jump to: