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« on: Jun 18, 2017, 02:20PM »

I'm excited to announce that I'll have my first lesson for not only bass trombone, but trombone as a whole!  I started playing trombone in 6th grade and I'll be a senior in high school so I'm really looking forward for the experience and helpful advice!  The teacher is in Troy, Michigan and at Marshall music.  Will update more details later! :D
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 18, 2017, 02:55PM »

Play a short demonstration that will show exactly where you are in ability.  Give your new teacher a lot to figure out where to point you.  A good teacher will work from some prepared material and some sightreading to structure a teaching plan.

Be prepared for him to set you back a few exercises into stuff you think you know.  If you are lucky, you will discover there is a lot more to learn in that old stuff.

Ask for a good warmup; something that will not just get the blood flowing but maybe do some development work.  In my case it was the Remington Warmup Studies.

With a little luck he will carve a few minutes out of the end of the lesson to play a duet.  Learning to play with somebody else is a very important part of your development. 

Whatever he asks you to do for the next lesson, do it!!  If you don't progress you are wasting the teacher's and your time.

Hope it goes well.
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 18, 2017, 03:22PM »

I took trombone lessons later in life with a good professional trombone player. Bruce's comments about having to go back to some fairly basic things is right. Initially quite demoralising but *definitely* worth it in the medium to long term. Comparable to a good golf coach deconstructing and then reconstructing your swing.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 18, 2017, 04:55PM »

Play a short demonstration that will show exactly where you are in ability.  Give your new teacher a lot to figure out where to point you.  A good teacher will work from some prepared material and some sightreading to structure a teaching plan.

Be prepared for him to set you back a few exercises into stuff you think you know.  If you are lucky, you will discover there is a lot more to learn in that old stuff.

Ask for a good warmup; something that will not just get the blood flowing but maybe do some development work.  In my case it was the Remington Warmup Studies.

With a little luck he will carve a few minutes out of the end of the lesson to play a duet.  Learning to play with somebody else is a very important part of your development. 

Whatever he asks you to do for the next lesson, do it!!  If you don't progress you are wasting the teacher's and your time.

Hope it goes well.
Will do! Good!  I'll do anything that he/she says.  From equipment change, exercises, warm-up, etc.  I'm willing to do anything to help my playing and everything else that is recommended!  I'm really looking foward to this one! Good!
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 18, 2017, 06:23PM »

I started taking lessons in January of this year.  Scales, rhythmic studies, intervals, lip slurs, double and triple tonguing exercises, and of course supporting etudes.  In all keys and at a variety of tempos.  I am to continually strive for better pitch, more accurate timing, cleaner and better executed articulations, better breath control and breathing and more accurate/appropriate expression.

Unless you can play the basics right, there is not point in moving ahead.

It seems to be working well.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 18, 2017, 09:55PM »

Take a recorder and record the lesson. (Ask for permission first.)



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« Reply #6 on: Jun 19, 2017, 11:21AM »

Take a recorder and record the lesson. (Ask for permission first.)




I'll see if I can record the lesson and if I don't, I'll go into detail of what I've been told and been ask to do.  Again, I'm really excited and hope it goes well! :D
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 20, 2017, 02:42PM »

A date has been confirmed!  It will be next Tuesday!
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 20, 2017, 04:25PM »

Take a recorder and record the lesson. (Ask for permission first.)





Dont do that, do it later when he knows you and you know him. And of course ask first.

What to do in the first lesson? Get friends.

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« Reply #9 on: Jun 20, 2017, 07:37PM »

Dont do that, do it later when he knows you and you know him. And of course ask first.

What to do in the first lesson? Get friends.

Leif

Leif,

I respectfully disagree.  Recording lessons and writing notes are marks of respect for the teacher.  Most of the teachers I've had made me play right from the very first lesson.  Having that and the other lesson recorded would have been a great help for "keeping me honest" so I'd know how much (or little) progress I'd made. Some teachers also play examples of how they want exercises to sound.  For a student who will practice between lessons, this can be a great help.
I think the key, though, is the asking.  And perhaps making sure that the teacher understands that the recording is to help the student make the most of the teacher's valuable time.

If, however, the student shows up at the next lesson and has obviously NOT listened to the advice and examples on the recording, MUCH better to have not recorded at all!

I DO agree about making friends.  Part of that, though, is setting the ground rules. Again, having it on tape can help avoid asking the teacher to repeat himself or herself.

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« Reply #10 on: Jun 21, 2017, 05:16AM »

Like many other young people here on TTF I recall that the poster does post on youtube frequently.

We don't now who the teacher is. I believe that most teachers would be hesitant to have anything recorded by a student that might end up on youtube in future.

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