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« Reply #20 on: Jul 16, 2017, 12:58AM »

It's just that some pieces specifically request the wick straight fiber cone mute so there must be a big enough difference.

In more than 40 years of professional playing I have never seen a brand of mute specified on a part.... I must lead a sheltered life.
I have Wick, Wallace, JoRal, Crown metal and Wallace, Gane, Enkermann fiber. All have their place... best if a whole section use the same type of mute.

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« Reply #21 on: Jul 16, 2017, 07:18AM »

Sorry, I wasn't talking about section parts. These are in specific concertos. Takemitsu requests a specific mute in his concertos, Sandstrom requests a specific one in Don Quixote, Lindberg requests a specific one in at least one of his transcriptions, and Berio requests a specific brand for the Sequenza. I think Xenakis also requests a specific mute too. These all name actual brands.

It doesn't really matter. I just wanted to know what was up between the normal metal mutes and the cone shaped straight mute.
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« Reply #22 on: Jul 17, 2017, 05:15AM »

Sorry, I wasn't talking about section parts. These are in specific concertos. Takemitsu requests a specific mute in his concertos, Sandstrom requests a specific one in Don Quixote, Lindberg requests a specific one in at least one of his transcriptions, and Berio requests a specific brand for the Sequenza. I think Xenakis also requests a specific mute too. These all name actual brands.

It doesn't really matter. I just wanted to know what was up between the normal metal mutes and the cone shaped straight mute.


I dont think Berio requests a specific brand.... the sequenza describes the mute required very carefully as well as how to use it. No brand name though.... not sure about the other ones you listed but I would be surprised if any actually specified a brand name.
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« Reply #23 on: Jul 17, 2017, 05:51AM »

In more than 40 years of professional playing I have never seen a brand of mute specified on a part.... I must lead a sheltered life.
I have Wick, Wallace, JoRal, Crown metal and Wallace, Gane, Enkermann fiber. All have their place... best if a whole section use the same type of mute.

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In Big Band scores I've seen requests for Harmon mutes to be used, but I think that is just that Harmon is synonymous with the Wow Wow style mute.
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« Reply #24 on: Jul 18, 2017, 12:46PM »

I had a conductor once specify using Denis Wick mutes to the trombone section.......I think he was just trying to get down with the kids......
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« Reply #25 on: Jul 19, 2017, 01:34AM »

I have never seen a brand of mute specified on a part

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I've seen a big band chart that specifies "Ray Robinson mute."
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« Reply #26 on: Jul 19, 2017, 08:26PM »

The Tomasi - "To be or not to be" specifies Robinson mutes too. I think that at one time, that brand name was associated with Cup Mutes, the same way that Harmon (a brand name) is associated with wa-wa mutes. Robinson cup mutes are still highly sought after, even though the company has been out of business for years.

The only other times I've seen a brand name specified for a mute, it's been a situation where an inexperienced composer/arranger asked for a mute that he/she had heard somewhere, and didn't realize that they were specifying a brand rather than a type of mute.

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« Reply #27 on: Jul 20, 2017, 06:39AM »

Coulda sworn the Berio specifically called for a wick metal mute.

The other one I remember was a "gaine mute" in another concerto. That might just be a type.
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