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« on: Aug 12, 2017, 10:48AM »

picture was about 1960...not sure how old the horn is...what horn is it?

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« Reply #1 on: Aug 12, 2017, 11:00AM »

"Tootsie Roll" counterweight and straight braces?  I think it's a Boosey.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 12, 2017, 12:12PM »

Thanks, Bruce! That was an elementary school owned horn, but couldn't remember it at all...tough getting old!
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 12, 2017, 02:44PM »

Sorry, Bruce. I have never seen a Boosey like that. Boosey became Boosey and Hawkes in about 1930 and the majority, if not all of their trombones before that were real pea-shooters; bore around 0.460in, bell about 6in diameter and consequently the 2 parallel sections of the bell were much closer together.

The first Boosey and Hawkes models were the same but then in the late 1940s/ early 1950s they started to produce more modern instruments with standard bore of 0.487in and bells of around 7in. (Think Conn 14H Director) They then went to ML and L bore but I have never seen that counterweight on a British trombone.

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« Reply #4 on: Aug 12, 2017, 03:06PM »

Could be a Blessing
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 12, 2017, 03:17PM »

Hah!  Found it!  Crusader

http://www.horn-u-copia.net/display.php?starton=0&secondsel=+and+instrument%3D%22Trombone%22&selby=+where+maker%3D%22Crusader+%22

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« Reply #6 on: Aug 12, 2017, 04:49PM »

Well, that certainly looks like it.  Can't say I've ever heard of a Crusader.  Guessing it wouldn't rank up there with a Williams  :D
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 12, 2017, 09:55PM »

I wager you wont see any of these gigging in the Middle East......
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 12, 2017, 10:22PM »

I wager you wont see any of these gigging in the Middle East......

I doubt you will see many of these gigging anywhere.  It was a "school horn" and was never used by pros.

Of course the name would not be friendly to Muslims...

You wouldn't want to drive a car called Matador in a Spanish-speaking country either.  Matador doesn't necessarily refer to the bull ring.
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