Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length

 
Advanced search

1086752 Posts in 71922 Topics- by 19223 Members - Latest Member: Adamgtrombonetrumpet87
Jump to:  
Pages: 1 ... 11 12 13 14 15 [16]   Go Down
Print
Author Topic: Trump's statement against racism  (Read 8695 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
nemomcnab

*
Offline Offline

Location:
Joined: Mar 21, 2013
Posts: 69

View Profile
« Reply #300 on: Aug 23, 2017, 02:21PM »

The persona is a dogmabot. We can only hope the actual critter behind it has much higher cognitive function.
 
Making noise in its direction is just helping it set the social climate.
 
This has to be obvious by now ... no?

Of course. Sometimes I just have to sneeze.
Logged
Bruce the budgie

*
Offline Offline

Location:
Joined: Oct 1, 2013
Posts: 272
"A burp is not a grace note."


View Profile
« Reply #301 on: Aug 23, 2017, 04:05PM »

Gesundheit!

ROE, in their very nature, cannot be expected to work if they are some big occluded seekrit. They need to be well-known to anyone who might have the remotest chance of having to chamber a round in earnest. The rules are not supposed to set the legs in the field up for failure; they are supposed to reduce the risk of things happening that could land them in jail.

Without knowing what the new changes are, all we have is another bit of bluster to add to the long list of 45's lies. So far it looks like he is good at spraying a firehose of misdirection, and not much else.
Logged
ddickerson

*
Offline Offline

Location:
Joined: Feb 21, 2009
Posts: 9683

View Profile
« Reply #302 on: Aug 23, 2017, 05:26PM »

Gesundheit!

ROE, in their very nature, cannot be expected to work if they are some big occluded seekrit. They need to be well-known to anyone who might have the remotest chance of having to chamber a round in earnest. The rules are not supposed to set the legs in the field up for failure; they are supposed to reduce the risk of things happening that could land them in jail.

Without knowing what the new changes are, all we have is another bit of bluster to add to the long list of 45's lies. So far it looks like he is good at spraying a firehose of misdirection, and not much else.

It's in your favor when an enemy isn't sure how you're going to react.
Logged

Energy City Horizons Symphonic Band
Energy City Big Band
Energy City Dixieland Band
River Pointe Church Praise and Worship Band
badger

*
Offline Offline

Location: Permian Basin
Joined: Sep 27, 2010
Posts: 1288

View Profile
« Reply #303 on: Aug 23, 2017, 05:39PM »

Another View:

http://www.wrko.com/articles/columns/kuhners-corner-media-lies-about-boston-rally

Article:

The Boston rally was a watershed event. But not in the way the mainstream media has been portraying it, as a bold stand against white supremacy in the wake of Charlottesville. Rather, it demonstrates the power of propaganda to foment mass hysteria and mob rule. Reality no longer matters.

For the media refuses to report this seminal truth: There were no white supremacists or neo-Nazis. None. Not even one. Instead, they engaged in a massive disinformation campaign that spurred over 40,000 “antifascists” to descend upon Boston Common. The alt-left’s goal: to counter-demonstrate against an alleged “white nationalist” rally.

Yet, what they were protesting was the very opposite. The Free Speech rally had nothing to do with white supremacy or the Ku Klux Klan—never mind the violence in Charlottesville. In fact, the rally was planned well before Charlottesville (one even took place earlier this year in May). More importantly, the rally was about defending the First Amendment, stressing the importance of free speech and freedom of expression in an age of growing intolerance.

Remarkably and irresponsibly, bordering on the criminal, the media repeatedly perpetuated the myth that a rally devoted to free speech was a cover for a KKK lovefest. Not one single major media outlet bothered to investigate or search for the facts; like sheep, they ran with the false narrative that Nazis were invading Boston. The reason: They got their marching orders from Mayor Marty Walsh and the liberal establishment.

It was Walsh, who peddled the fiction about white supremacists descending on Boston, trying to replicate the chaos and bloodshed in Charlottesville. He held a press conference earlier in the week, denouncing the so-called “bigots” and “racists” supposedly attending the Free Speech rally. It was like ringing the dinner bell for the alt-left activists to pour onto the streets in rage and protest. Walsh even went so far as to claim he would “march” with the counter-demonstrators against “hate” and “white supremacists.” The genie was now out of the bottle: Black Lives Matter, Antifa and radical left-wing activists (including the Communist Party and Workers of the World) vowed that tens of thousands of protestors and street thugs would show up.

No one, however, asked a basic question: Who were the scheduled speakers and supposed rally goers? Were any of them Nazis or white nationalists? Instead, the media mindlessly repeated the Big Lie. And as Nazi Propaganda Minister, Joseph Goebbels, famously said, repeat a lie often enough it becomes accepted as fact. This is what happened in Boston.

The listed speakers at the Free Speech rally were a diverse group; none of them comes close to being a KKK-style supremacist or Nazi. One of them was Rinaldo Del Gallo, a First Amendment lawyer and supporter of Bernie Sanders. He is a progressive, who believes in free speech. So is Bernie a neo-Nazi now? Another one was Donnie Palmer, a veteran and professional boxer. He is also an African-American. He is from Dorchester, and his big issue is the need to discuss openly about the scourge of crime and drugs infesting our inner cities. So is a black man, who is pro-law and order, a white supremacist now? Another one was Shiva Ayyadurai, an Indian-American businessman. He is a constitutionalist running for the GOP nomination to challenge Sen. Elizabeth Warren. To put it crudely: Is a brown-skinned man, who supports the Bill of Rights, now a white supremacist? Or take Samson Racioppi, a Libertarian candidate for Congress. His issue is the need for limited government and maximizing personal freedoms. Are libertarians now Nazis? Another was Garret Kirkland, an anti-war and pro-civil liberties activist. His main issue is opposition to military intervention in Syria, and how free speech is critical for the anti-war movement to get its message out. Are anti-war activists now members of the KKK?

In the eyes of the media, the leftist counter-demonstrators and Walsh, the answer is clear—and chilling: yes. The massive protests achieved its goal. Free speech was shut down. A hate-filled mob took over the streets. And the radical Left won a decisive battle in its war against the Constitution, the First Amendment and freedom itself. That this occurred in Boston of all places—the cradle of liberty and the American Revolution—makes the Left’s triumph even more striking.

Moreover, the media could not single out one—just one—neo-Nazi or white supremacist among the Free Speech rally attendees. In Charlottesville, they were everywhere; in Boston, they were nowhere. The reason is obvious: Because they never planned to attend. The entire “antifascist” protest was a counter-demonstration against a phantom menace—one that was conjured out of thin air.

The only real fascists were the Antifa and BLM thugs among the counter-demonstrators. Dressed in black and wearing masks (like Mussolini’s Black Shirts or Hitler’s Brown Shirts), roving paramilitary gangs threw urine bottles, rocks and sticks at the police. They blocked and spit upon rally attendees. And they assaulted Trump supporters. Contrary to media spin, there was nothing “peaceful” or “non-violent” about the protests.

Just ask Sue, an elderly woman and Trump voter. She wanted to attend the Free Speech rally. She was prevented by an angry leftist crowd. So, she decided to stand on the grass and peacefully hold up an American flag. For her alleged crime of patriotism, Antifa thugs punched and beat her. She was then dragged on the ground as they ripped away her flag. The incident was captured on video. Sue was then spit in the face by a rabid BLM woman, who called her a “Nazi” and said the flag represents “slavery and oppression.” Walsh refuses to condemn the attack; the media will not even speak to her.

“I could not believe the sheer hatred that those protestors had,” Sue said in an interview on my radio show. “They were like rabid animals.”

She’s right. What took place in Boston was Orwellian. In the name of “anti-fascism,” left-wing fanatics used fascist tactics to muzzle opposition and silence speech. The media establishment celebrated an assault on the First Amendment. Their aim is obvious: to broaden the definition of “fascism” or “white supremacy” to include anyone—conservatives, libertarians, patriots, Trump populists or progressives—who refuses to bow at the altar of Political Correctness.

The radical Left is waging war upon America’s history, culture, identity and institutions. They despise the Constitution, especially the First Amendment, which is the bedrock of our freedoms. The mainstream media has become the enemy. Boston has become ground zero.

Only one question remains: Which side are you on?

End.

Logged
growlerbox
Just a clown with an axe

*
Offline Offline

Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Joined: Feb 1, 2012
Posts: 986

View Profile
« Reply #304 on: Aug 23, 2017, 05:55PM »

Ridiculous.

I think that was kind of the point.
Logged

If it's not worth doing, it's not worth doing well.
B0B
*
Offline Offline

Location:
Joined: Jun 27, 2008
Posts: 5661

View Profile
« Reply #305 on: Aug 23, 2017, 06:11PM »

It's in your favor when an enemy isn't sure how you're going to react.
And to your disadvantage when your allies can't depend on you for the same reason...
Logged
Bruce the budgie

*
Offline Offline

Location:
Joined: Oct 1, 2013
Posts: 272
"A burp is not a grace note."


View Profile
« Reply #306 on: Aug 23, 2017, 07:19PM »

It's in your favor when an enemy isn't sure how you're going to react.

You seem to be confusing ROE with tactics. One is a set of unsurprising rules aimed at keeping soldiers out of trouble. The second has to do with coordinated fire and maneuver.

edit to add: This might be stale news, but one possibility for changing the rules could be allowing US forces to treat the Taliban as enemy combatants, same as IS and al Qaeda. If that were to happen, they would be astonished for all of about five minutes before the rest of them modify their behavior. Might be a game changer, might not. I don't claim to be smarter than the generals.
Logged
BillO
A trombone is not measured by it's name.

*
Offline Offline

Location: Ontario Canada
Joined: Jun 24, 2015
Posts: 3247

View Profile
« Reply #307 on: Aug 23, 2017, 09:07PM »

Ridiculous.
Let's look at who this is coming from.  Websters should update their entry on irony.
Logged

Never look at the conductor. You just encourage them.

Have you noticed, some folk never stick around to help tidy up after practice?
Pages: 1 ... 11 12 13 14 15 [16]   Go Up
Print
Jump to: