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« on: Aug 12, 2017, 05:00PM »

Trump's statement against racism, if we had a real president:

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I abhor racism and white supremacism. The people who hold those views, including David Duke, who think I am doing their work as president, are mistaken. They are promoting an idea that's outside of the American ideal and the American vision, and I condemn their cause and the violence they have perpetrated this week.

The sad thing is that you can't imagine Trump making this statement, and you can't think of any other president that you also couldn't imagine making this statement.
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 12, 2017, 09:46PM »

Problem being, white nationalists elected him in the first place

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« Reply #2 on: Aug 13, 2017, 10:32AM »

Wrong thread
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 13, 2017, 11:28AM »

He's certainly getting plenty of heat over it.
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 13, 2017, 01:04PM »

The Guardian view on Donald Trump and racism: a moral failure that shames America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2017/aug/13/the-guardian-view-on-donald-trump-and-racism-a-moral-failure-that-shames-america
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 13, 2017, 02:40PM »


Once again we are shown that many around the world have a better grasp of what's going on here than a lot of our fellow countrymen do.
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 13, 2017, 02:44PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2017/aug/13/ben-jennings-on-donald-trump-and-charlottesville-cartoon
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 13, 2017, 04:27PM »

Freedom of speech is attainable only through civil discourse. Racism and bigotry certainly toe that line, but it is the anti-protesters responsibility to maintain civility, no matter how gratifying it would be to punch a Nazi in the face. They want to trigger folks, because they let themselves get triggerred e'ryday. Just because there is a protest does not mean they need a microphone. The media and locals need to tune these groups out, especially as members now "fulfill promises" through vehicular manslaughter and terror.

The next time the president's campaign fundraiser for 2020 comes rolling through your town, please stay home (and lock your doors.)
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 13, 2017, 04:31PM »

His failure to condemn the Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazi groups has certainly made headlines in Australia, despite the White House defence of his statement:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-14/trump-charlottesville-condemnation-included-neo-nazis:whitehouse/8802524

From my point of view it was frightening to see what can happen in the US, seemingly without any action being taken, with white supremacists in military regalia carrying guns during the Charlottesville protest.
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 13, 2017, 06:00PM »

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From my point of view it was frightening to see what can happen in the US, seemingly without any action being taken, with white supremacists in military regalia carrying guns during the Charlottesville protest.

Yes, I find that baffling. They should have been charged with inciting violence. Open carry is one thing, This was way beyond it.
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 13, 2017, 06:17PM »

Freedom of speech is attainable only through civil discourse. Racism and bigotry certainly toe that line, but it is the anti-protesters responsibility to maintain civility, no matter how gratifying it would be to punch a Nazi in the face.

I don't think you're using "toe the line" right.


But basically you're claiming that because someone was uncivil in the face grotesque barbarism, their objection isn't as valid.
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 13, 2017, 07:35PM »

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« Reply #12 on: Aug 14, 2017, 04:09AM »

You can't expect moral leadership from a person who, for seventy years, has proven consistently that he is amoral.
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 14, 2017, 05:10AM »

You can't expect moral leadership from a person who, for seventy years, has proven consistently that he is amoral.

You can expect the authoritarian bloc* to love him for it--it's powerfully validating for them.


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« Reply #14 on: Aug 14, 2017, 07:23AM »

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« Reply #15 on: Aug 14, 2017, 08:39AM »

Trump Finally Speaks Out


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We finally have an unambiguous and firm denunciation from President Trump, only it’s against the CEO of Merck, Kenneth Frazier, after Frazier resigned from Trump’s manufacturing council over the President’s lack of response to Charlottesville.

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« Reply #16 on: Aug 14, 2017, 09:04AM »

More info about Don's dad, Fred, being arrested at a KKK rally back in the day.

Except the KKK was protesting a march by Italian pro-fascists.

Cue Monty Python/Dennis Moore the Highwayman: this redistribution of wealth is trickier than I thought.
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 14, 2017, 09:08AM »

Except the KKK was protesting a march by Italian pro-fascists.

It's the Italian (Catholic) part that really bothered them.
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 14, 2017, 10:18AM »

Quite. Trump's leanings are very clear.
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« Reply #19 on: Aug 14, 2017, 10:39AM »



Well, they finally made him do it.

General Kelly seems to have a little better control over him than Reince, et al, did.
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