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« Reply #20 on: Aug 31, 2017, 05:22PM »

In my previous posts I was using "dorsal" to simply indicate using part of the top of the tongue rather than the tip.  I would distinguish that from "anchor tonguing" which is keeping the tip down in the gully or behind the bottom teeth while dorsal tonguing.
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« Reply #21 on: Sep 01, 2017, 01:35AM »

I've found that 15 minutes of practicing using no tongue at all, in all registers really cleans up the tongued note production. It's also a valuable way to improve focus, by playing 8th notes rising in semitones, going past top Bb and beyond..
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« Reply #22 on: Sep 01, 2017, 02:07AM »

In my previous posts I was using "dorsal" to simply indicate using part of the top of the tongue rather than the tip.  I would distinguish that from "anchor tonguing" which is keeping the tip down in the gully or behind the bottom teeth while dorsal tonguing.
Yes I understod you perfectly, (actually I do use the tip of my tongue for legato my self.)
I do have a long tongue, because of that my tonguing would be called "anchor tonguing".
I use D and G rather then T and K.
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« Reply #23 on: Sep 01, 2017, 02:10AM »

I've found that 15 minutes of practicing using no tongue at all, in all registers really cleans up the tongued note production. It's also a valuable way to improve focus, by playing 8th notes rising in semitones, going past top Bb and beyond..
That is what I do every morning, been doing that since the 60s, (thanks to Carl-Otto Naesén.)
I really like that.
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« Reply #24 on: Sep 01, 2017, 02:12AM »

Here is a copy of the Claude Gordon tongue level exercises:

http://blog.fullpartituras.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/CLAUDE-GORDON-THONGUE-LEVEL-EXERCISES.pdf

He says do exercise part 1 many times a day until it becomes natural.  Hee, hee. 
Some things Claude Gordon said I like. Some things make just puzzled. I don´t agree with everything he said.
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« Reply #25 on: Sep 03, 2017, 07:54AM »

So after experimenting for about a week, I've become pretty comfortable with tonguing around the ridge of my mouth not far back from where the gums meet the teeth.  I haven't been able to get that "pop" at the front of the note, but I can get a lot more of a consistent sound across the register.  A lot of what Doug Elliot said helped.  I've also been practicing a few things with no tongue as well and that has helped with my air stream. 

Thanks again guys!
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