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Question: Trump's options?  (Voting closed: Sep 17, 2017, 03:20PM)
Pre-emptive nuclear strike by US - 1 (5%)
Pre-emptive non-nuclear strike by US - 3 (15%)
More tough talk from Trump (bluff) - 3 (15%)
Trade sanctions against China and/or S Korea - 4 (20%)
Relax. This will blow over, not up. - 6 (30%)
No options. - 3 (15%)
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« Reply #60 on: Sep 05, 2017, 03:45PM »

I do not know what help it will be, but our PM Malcolm Turnbull and Trump will discuss the North Korean threat over the phone this morning. Also our Defence Minister Marise Payne will leave for Seoul today to meet with South Korean leaders. It seems that whatever happens between the US and North Korea, Australia will be deeply involved - a fact already noted by Kim in his comments about Turnbull.
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« Reply #61 on: Sep 05, 2017, 04:45PM »

Let's have a cheap solution:

We should start a massive psy-ops campaign:

Offer $50 million in cash to whomever takes out the Fat Boy. $100 million in cash to whomever (can be more than one person to share the pot) dismantles their nuclear program.

Value's can be adjusted! Mercenaries?!

Hell...What did Obama transfer to Iran?

Ya Think that is going to work out over the years?

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« Reply #62 on: Sep 05, 2017, 05:14PM »

Let's have a cheap solution:

We should start a massive psy-ops campaign:

Offer $50 million in cash to whomever takes out the Fat Boy. $100 million in cash to whomever (can be more than one person to share the pot) dismantles their nuclear program.

Value's can be adjusted! Mercenaries?!

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Except, I don't think Kim Jong Un is really in charge. He is just a convenient figurehead for the military chiefs. Evil
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« Reply #63 on: Sep 05, 2017, 06:09PM »

The dude is so paranoid, odds are he has standing orders that if he is taken out by an assassin, air strike, angry mob, infected hangnail, or whatever, the nukes all get launched and they let loose all the artillery on the border on Seoul.  Nobody wins in that case.
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« Reply #64 on: Sep 06, 2017, 04:39AM »

When he said "the Fat Boy" I thought he meant Drumpf.
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« Reply #65 on: Sep 06, 2017, 01:38PM »

Who do you think is supplying the materials and technology for his missiles and nuclear bombs?


Pakistan is a more likely source than either Russia or China.  There was significant cooperation between Iran and North Korea for a time, but this appears to have ended.
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« Reply #66 on: Sep 06, 2017, 01:42PM »

Pakistan is a more likely source than either Russia or China.  There was significant cooperation between Iran and North Korea for a time, but this appears to have ended.

Ended as part of the deal negotiated by the Obama administration?
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« Reply #67 on: Sep 06, 2017, 01:53PM »

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When he said "the Fat Boy" I thought he meant Drumpf.
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« Reply #68 on: Sep 06, 2017, 02:31PM »

The missile rocket engine technology is almost certainly from Ukraine, home of a former Soviet rocket engine factory. The recent pictures of the engines shown by NK match exactly the engines made in Ukraine.

As a part of destabilizing Ukraine the Russians stopped buying engines from that factory, leaving them out of work and broke.  It is believed that experts helped NK build such engines from their plans or possibly shipped engines already-built to NK.
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« Reply #69 on: Sep 06, 2017, 02:37PM »

Wonder how long it will be before the North Korean tests are blamed for our bad weather Evil
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« Reply #70 on: Sep 06, 2017, 03:36PM »

Isn't the Ukraine one of our allies?

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« Reply #71 on: Sep 06, 2017, 03:48PM »

If the recent conversation between our PM Turnbull and Trump only resulted in the assurance that we were both looking after each other's backs, how come Turnbull is now considering plans to evacuate Australians from the Korean Peninsula as threats from North Korea escalate. :-0 He's urged Australians in the region to register their details.

Albeit he also said that he has confidence the global community can bring the rogue nation "to its sense", provided tougher sanctions are put in place and China uses its economic influence.

Turnbull also said a few minutes ago in TV that, "An attack on the United States or its allies by North Korea would be met with overwhelming force, as president Donald Trump asset and the defence secretary, it would be a suicide note from North Korea. Thousands would die. It would be unmitigated catastrophe."
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« Reply #72 on: Sep 06, 2017, 05:25PM »

More than thousands, Grah.
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« Reply #73 on: Sep 06, 2017, 05:45PM »

Agreed. What Turnbull said in the interview I heard was:

“The North Korean regime is threatening the peace of the region in a manner that runs the risk of disturbing the world order, putting thousands and millions of lives at risk.”
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« Reply #74 on: Sep 06, 2017, 06:24PM »

Isn't the Ukraine one of our allies?

They're not part of NATO or the EU nor do we have any sort of a mutual defense treaty with them. They're just not aligned with Russia for now.

Ukraine is one step from being a failed state. The government is preoccupied with the Russian land grab and they're all corrupt anyway.
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« Reply #75 on: Sep 07, 2017, 04:54AM »

All of the DPRK's belligerence is akin to one of those birds or lizards that puffs up really scary looking foliage when threatened, but have no real defenses against a predator. Us is not the mad man I am concerned about.
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