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« on: Sep 12, 2017, 10:52PM »

Due to some seriously good luck and - I am pretty sure - optimally aligned planetary bodies...

I stumbled across a Mirafone BBb/FF contrabass trombone today.  And I urgently need a mouthpiece for it.  The receiver appears to be the same as (or very close to) bass trombone shank.  Any suggestions?...  THANKS in advance!

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« Reply #1 on: Sep 12, 2017, 11:29PM »

Believe it or not Bach has a great starter Contra piece.  Its 30MM inner rim and a cool outer shape.

Mouthpiece Express has one in stock.  The VB Contra piece was designed for the Conn Contrabasses.

Stock number is CB30

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« Reply #2 on: Sep 12, 2017, 11:31PM »

Here you go! http://www.mouthpieceexpress.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=197_204_461_809

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« Reply #3 on: Sep 13, 2017, 05:42AM »

If that don't look like an old Minick mouthpiece, I don't know what does.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 13, 2017, 06:37AM »

Due to some seriously good luck and - I am pretty sure - optimally aligned planetary bodies...

I stumbled across a Mirafone BBb/FF contrabass trombone today.  And I urgently need a mouthpiece for it.  The receiver appears to be the same as (or very close to) bass trombone shank.  Any suggestions?...  THANKS in advance!



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« Reply #5 on: Sep 13, 2017, 07:46AM »

You can also consider the Marcinkiewicz 105.  It's the smalles of their 3 100's and is nominally a contra mouthpiece.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 13, 2017, 07:55AM »

For a BBb contra you want to go larger rather than smaller on the mouthpiece. The Bach 30CB works well with the Mirafone BBb/FF. I didn't personally much like the Marcinkiewicz 107 when I tried it in mine, for what it's worth - it needed bigger.
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 13, 2017, 07:59AM »

Our college also has a Miraphone BBb contrabass trombone, and after trying several mouthpieces, the Bach 30CB worked the best.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 13, 2017, 09:07AM »

If I recall correctly there are two: 30CB and 32CB (30 being larger).  They match up to the Tuba models of the same number.  I have a Tuba 32, which was way too small for me on my tuba but was perfect for a friend who needed a smaller tuba mouthpiece (he was getting older and his current mouthpiece was too big for him to manage).
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 13, 2017, 06:26PM »

32CB is 32mm ID rim, so its bigger.  Its also out of production.  Bach only has the CB30 now and mouthpiece express had it in stock.

That design is from the 1950s, so predates Minicks work by a far bit.  Bobo apparently had these designed for the Conn Contra he owned.

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« Reply #10 on: Sep 13, 2017, 08:32PM »

Thanks, Benn!  Thanks, all!

I will probably pick up the CB30.
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 13, 2017, 10:20PM »

I played one recently that was matched to a Yamaha tuba mouthpiece on the small side. It played and responded very well with that setup, surprisingly.
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 28, 2017, 09:46PM »

Just to follow up on this...

I purchased a Bach 30CB and the size was good but it has a tuba shank.  This Mirafone takes a regular bass shank.  So, I ended up borrowing a Josef Klier 2C and it worked well.  So, I purchased one.  The more I play, the better it works...
 
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« Reply #13 on: Oct 29, 2017, 04:32PM »

If you didnt return the CB30 thr shank can be turned down.  Noah had that done to his.

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« Reply #14 on: Oct 29, 2017, 06:27PM »

I had a teacher who had the receiver on his Mirafone modified so it would take his F tuba mouthpieces...
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« Reply #15 on: Oct 30, 2017, 07:39AM »

If you didnt return the CB30 thr shank can be turned down.  Noah had that done to his.

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SPEAKING of this, how many Contras out there use the Bach Contra Size shank?  It is just a wee bit bigger than a bass trombone shank, but it is bigger enough to not fit in most bass trombones.

Really noting... I have a Bach 30CB, should I have the shank turned down?

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« Reply #16 on: Nov 06, 2017, 07:57AM »

I play a Mirafone Contra Regularly. I have had great success using the Denis Wick "Small Fitting" Line of Tuba Mouthpieces. Small Fitting meaning it has a Bass Trombone/Older Style EEb Tuba Shank. They have 5 models ranging from the 5 @ 30mm to the 1 @ 32.50.  They increase in size by .50mm. They match the DW Tuba line and are distinguished by the Solitary Model number. No lettering afterwards.  FWIW I play  the Model 2 and 1. Their mass/ weight are more suited to the Contra IMHO . I also feel they help solve some of the unfocused issues of the Mirafone Contrabeast. Also IMHO. I have played a Bach 30CB and felt it was too small for the Mirafone especially considering I play a 29.50mm rim on my Bass Trombone and a 33.50mm rim on my Tuba mouthpiece.  WWBW sells them for about $100 and Quinn has had some FS on EBAY that he was taking offers on. Good Luck
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« Reply #17 on: Nov 09, 2017, 10:26PM »

Thanks for this, John.  I might try one of these.  I have been happy with the JK.  But I tried the CB30 again and I think the size is better.  It is a tad bigger than the KJ and I am starting to think ever bigger might be better.  In a perfect world, I would be able to trial the different size Wicks and only keep one.
 
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« Reply #18 on: Nov 17, 2017, 03:52PM »

Greenbean, have the shank cut down to fit.  If you decide you dont want it, I'll buy it from you.

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