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« on: Oct 23, 2017, 09:08AM »

I find it incredibly hypocritical that for all the screaming about Benghazi from the right wingers who wanted to bring down Hillary, they seem to be suspiciously silent over the disaster in Niger.

For years it has been a non stop barrage of attacks on Hillary. And despite multiple investigations and hearings, she was not deemed culpable. And not once did the right own up to the fact that it was them who voted to cut funding for embassy security.

Trump? Republican leaders? What say you? Will you accept responsibility?  Don't know

I doubt it.
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 23, 2017, 09:18AM »

No one seems to remember this:

One U.S. Navy SEAL was killed and three other SEALs were wounded in the raid.

The raid in Yemen was described as "risky from the start and costly in the end";the "botched" operation raised questions about the choice to go forward with the raid "without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations".

President Bone Spurs not wearing this one. Niger any different?
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 23, 2017, 09:19AM »

Does Trump have any properties in Niger?  Is there anyway he can profit from this?  If not, then he won't do anything.
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 23, 2017, 09:36AM »

But her emails (tm)
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« Reply #4 on: Oct 23, 2017, 09:40AM »

So... We perform anti-terrorism military operations throughout Africa. This is normal and standard (for better or worse). And Trump almost certainly has little to no knowledge or even care of these operations.

That said, it is likely his actions had a major impact on them.

One of our biggest partners in these operations is Congo. The same Congo that was recently added to trump's muslim ban list... saying they fostered terrorism. So we insulted one of our biggest allies in the area, claiming they themselves we what we were fighting against.

Their response? They stopped helping. They pulled out and went home.

Not much longer... our troops were ambushed. The only available/nearby evac was a military contractor... who left the four soldier behind.


And what is trump's response?

Lie about calling the gold star families, and when he finally did get around to calling a few of them... as of this morning, he has gone to twitter directly calling one of the widows a liar.

Screw up one area, distract in another.

And so trump goes on.
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 23, 2017, 10:26AM »

Niger won't have the legs of Benghazi because the Dems won't put nearly as much energy into pursuing fictitious conspiracies as the Republicans do.

Trump probably didn't even know we had troops in Niger so i doubt there's any factor of him ordering someone into an ambush.

But it's still not clear who did and why they were where they weren't supposed to have been.

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« Reply #6 on: Oct 23, 2017, 11:55AM »

Niger won't have the legs of Benghazi because the Dems won't put nearly as much energy into pursuing fictitious conspiracies as the Republicans do.
 
Trump probably didn't even know we had troops in Niger so i doubt there's any factor of him ordering someone into an ambush.
 
But it's still not clear who did and why they were where they weren't supposed to have been.

Turnabout may motivate them to take it about 4,703 times further beyond reason than they usually would ... but yeah, nowhere near as far or as long as the Alternative Facts Crüe has with Benghazi and Clinton's obvious attempts to turn the US over to al Qaeda control through emails (or whatever work of selective vapidity is the most popular radical right wing Benghazi/Kool-Aid flavor of the week). For that you have to be able to convince yourself of embarrassingly vacuous nonsense without being too embarrassed to keep going there, so you have to be many times less self-aware (or several times more rationally unhinged) than average.
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 23, 2017, 12:10PM »

The most ironic part seems to be that trump himself is the biggest player in keeping this story alive.
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« Reply #8 on: Oct 23, 2017, 01:55PM »

I don't think that Trump has blamed the attacks on an Internet video. (yet)
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« Reply #9 on: Oct 23, 2017, 04:56PM »

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« Reply #10 on: Oct 23, 2017, 07:57PM »

Niger won't have the legs of Benghazi because the Dems won't put nearly as much energy into pursuing fictitious conspiracies as the Republicans do.

It was also President Obama's call to send troops there. Pre-Trump.

Actually, although it's terrible for those who knew the soldiers killed, they were elitely trained and willingly took on the risks, in an area that is important for the war on terror, so I suspect they judged their duty there well worth the risks. I think Pres. Obama was trying for a more effective way of dealing with violent extremists for the people living in the areas involved than George Bush's Iraq invasion and subsequent full-scale policing actions.
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 26, 2017, 03:22PM »

It was also President Obama's call to send troops there. Pre-Trump.

Actually, although it's terrible for those who knew the soldiers killed, they were elitely trained and willingly took on the risks, in an area that is important for the war on terror, so I suspect they judged their duty there well worth the risks. I think Pres. Obama was trying for a more effective way of dealing with violent extremists for the people living in the areas involved than George Bush's Iraq invasion and subsequent full-scale policing actions.

The impression from some quarters is that the mission was poorly run and poorly supported. I'll withhold judgment, because you can take casualties even in a well-executed mission, obviously.
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 28, 2017, 02:59PM »

Niger won't have the legs of Benghazi because the Dems won't put nearly as much energy into pursuing fictitious conspiracies as the Republicans do.

Well there's my annual quota of irony, all in one post no less.
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