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« Reply #60 on: Nov 14, 2017, 06:11AM »

You can't do it gracefully. It will be hard hard work. After age 50 you have to run twice as fast as you can , just to stand still effortlessly.

Brass players older than myself warned me. The trumpet players I worked with got up at 4AM to warm up at 5AM for 10AM church service gigs. That was a huge help, that advice.


I have friends that need to warm up (much) longer. This seems to be a result of not practising daily. One good friend currently sounds like poop for 20 minutes into a rehearsal, then things get better.

I know 75 year olds that just sit down and play at a pro level. I wonder how much time they play every day. Some people may age differently, or they have figured something out.
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« Reply #61 on: Nov 14, 2017, 06:15AM »

In our community band, we go through several minutes of chorale warmups before we start rehearsing. That might not be enough for all, but at least it's a start.
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« Reply #62 on: Nov 14, 2017, 06:22AM »

While there may be a wide spectrum of what, if anything, constitutes a warm-up for us; there certainly is no harm in it.

Mine seems to be fluid; sometimes none needed and sometimes I can't seem to get warmed up until rehearsal is almost done and then I wish it could go on for another hour. Biorhythms?

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« Reply #63 on: Nov 14, 2017, 06:39AM »

My playing time is like a cell phone with limited limits. Do I spend my minutes warming up, or playing?
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« Reply #64 on: Nov 14, 2017, 07:05AM »

My playing time is like a cell phone with limited limits. Do I spend my minutes warming up, or playing?

This gets back to what Bonesmarsh said. If your face time is limited to a fixed number of minutes, aging brass players could very well have limited results. You may or may not be playing enough to reach your former level. Some players have the dedication to put in the time necessary to play at a level they consider to be acceptable.

On the other side of this, some retirees continue to play at a pro level. At our last big band rehearsal, Russ Little (formerly lead of the Boss Brass) did a good read of Urbie's A Very Precious Love. He is 76. There are a number of high Cs, Ds, and a couple of Es in there. Russ is just a naturally talented guy

Other people take up other instruments. If they stay with brass, they move from trumpet to trombone, or trombone to tuba.
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« Reply #65 on: Nov 14, 2017, 07:14AM »

My playing time is like a cell phone with limited limits. Do I spend my minutes warming up, or playing?

Ha! I feel the same about my very highest notes. If your band wants me to play IGSOY, then you best put it up front!   :-0

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« Reply #66 on: Nov 14, 2017, 08:44AM »

I am 63 years old and have the following:
Parkinson's Disease
Diabetic
Macro Degenerative Disease
SKin Cancer Squamous Cell removed this summer

I still actcively play my trombone
I still teach
I golf.
Nothing has changed.

I go about my day as a normal person. I played a recital in August playing among others Spillman COncerto and WIlder Sonata, and Vivaldi Concerto. I refuse to stop.
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« Reply #67 on: Nov 14, 2017, 09:20AM »

Another age-related reason I play less (and play worse for it) is that I have more interests now. Some are musical, others not at all, but I like them and they all take time to pursue if i want to do them well.

When trombone was one of few interests it was possible to spend hours a day practicing.  But now it is just one of many.  I enjoy the other things partly because they are new, whereas trombone is mostly going to be retreading old ground for me.

I did bands and orchestras for years, that scene is not going to change. I'm looking for new things to do.

I identify with much of this. Right now, I'm at rehearsals on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday nights, with some Friday/Sat rehearsals, and a few Sat/Sun gigs coming up. We live in the suburbs, so there's lots of driving (and time wasted in traffic). I play some guitar, which requires practice, albeit less than trombone. Oh yes, job and family also. I also try to get some exercise here and there. There are only so many hours in the day and, frankly, the dilithium crystals are beginning to run a little low.
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« Reply #68 on: Nov 14, 2017, 09:42AM »

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« Reply #69 on: Nov 14, 2017, 10:49AM »

I don't think I can take anymore.
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« Reply #70 on: Nov 14, 2017, 11:51PM »

I am 63 years old and have the following:
Parkinson's Disease
Diabetic
Macro Degenerative Disease
SKin Cancer Squamous Cell removed this summer

I still actcively play my trombone
I still teach
I golf.
Nothing has changed.

I go about my day as a normal person. I played a recital in August playing among others Spillman COncerto and WIlder Sonata, and Vivaldi Concerto. I refuse to stop.

 BRAVO !!!!

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