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« Reply #20 on: Nov 14, 2017, 09:53AM »

Is a bucket mute heavy?
And how much does it cut the sound ? Half?
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« Reply #21 on: Nov 14, 2017, 11:30AM »

I actually disagree on the bucket mute myself.  I have experience with the Jo Ral style though, not the kind that clamp onto the bell. They're heavy and change the balance of the instrument too much to be used for any length of time... at least in my opinion.  I also don't like the first iteration of the Yamaha Silent brass for a similar reason. It stuck out so far that it made playing for long than a few minutes a real chore for me.

Bucket mutes also don't really take much off the sound either... although they do seem to reduce the "cutting" over tones so you can kind of play a little louder because the sound won't penetrate through walls as much as something like a Best Brass or a straight mute.
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« Reply #22 on: Nov 14, 2017, 11:59AM »

Is a bucket mute heavy?


It's true. It is heavy, but weight wasn't one of the parameters of the question.  :D

Due to an ebay mishap I actually use a Euphonium bucket mute and it's extra heavy.

Simple solution...



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« Reply #23 on: Nov 14, 2017, 12:20PM »

Yeah, the bucket mute is not the answer. I use the Easy Bucket, which is good as a bucket, but I wouldn't use it for anything else. I'm telling you, the Yamaha Silent Brass is the thing. The second generation that is small, not the one that looks like a bowling pin.

If you want a mute to be more free blowing, drill a couple holes in it.
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« Reply #24 on: Nov 15, 2017, 11:05AM »

Are the voigt mute and the maslet the same?
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« Reply #25 on: Nov 22, 2017, 07:42AM »

I have both the Bremmer Sshhhhmute, and the yamaha silent brass.  Without using the headphones, Bremmer is the way to go.  The yamaha is odd by itself.

The key to using both of these is to not play above a mezzoforte.  otherwise your chops aren't really getting proper practice and keeping their shape due to backpressure. 

these mutes aren't meant to be fully utilized at higher volumes.
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« Reply #26 on: Dec 09, 2017, 09:53AM »

The Mike McLean Pianissimo mute does exactly what I was hoping for: it's quiet enough to be courteous but doesn't effect intonation or response much. With the Silent Brass or Wallace mutes, I always felt like I was playing a mute, rather than the trombone. With the McLean, it's just quieter--and a bit heavier than no mute, of course. McLean offers compact practice mutes as well, but I've only tried the Pianissimo.
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« Reply #27 on: Dec 12, 2017, 10:23AM »

As a practise mute that is free blowing and in tune, the Bremner Sshhmute is great.

Also, I use a Denis Wick practise mute, which is a little bit louder than the Sshhmute and it is also O.K.

Denis Wick cup mute with adjustable cup could be another option for you to try.
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