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« on: Dec 06, 2017, 06:11AM »

Should a pixie mute go all the way into the bell? I just got one and it sticks out about 3". Just wondering whether I should trim the cork a bit. Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 06, 2017, 06:48AM »

It has to go in at least far enough so you can use a plunger over it, and not so far that you can't grab it to remove.

Those are the practical considerations.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 06, 2017, 06:57AM »

Al Grey had recommendations. One was to shave the corks down enough so it will fit in the bell far enough so it doesn't extend past the bell. You should be able to look at the bell from the side and not see the end of the mute (as Doug said)

Another of his tips: removed the inner sleeve on the small end. Use a flat edge screwdriver to pry it out a bit and pull it out.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 06, 2017, 07:22AM »

Al Grey's choice  Hi

http://trombonietrombonisti.blogspot.it/2013/11/la-plunger-secondo-al-grey-1.html
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« Reply #4 on: Today at 04:29 AM »

Back in the '70's There was a bone player in the Thad Jones Mel Lewis band by the name of Butterball Jackson (maybe Johnson?). At one of their gigs in a Cleveland bar I was asking him questions about his plunger technique. He pulled me into the men's room and gave me a lesson. He said not to waste my money on a pixie straight mute. Then he showed me what he used. A Stone Lined Trumpet Straight Mute. Boy could he make his axe talk! I used a trumpet straight mute from then on. Even on my small bore 4H it went in far enough! And they are a lot cheaper!
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« Reply #5 on: Today at 05:35 AM »

I believe you are referring to Quentin "Butter" Jackson.  Great player.

I heard from someone else that they used a "Non-Pareil" trumpet mute which they built up the corks on.  The Non-Pareil isn't made any more and if a StoneLine mute wors, great.

Note that you have to play up in the range for this technique.  Generally above the bass staff.
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« Reply #6 on: Today at 06:51 AM »

I believe you are referring to Quentin "Butter" Jackson.  Great player.

I heard from someone else that they used a "Non-Pareil" trumpet mute which they built up the corks on.  The Non-Pareil isn't made any more and if a StoneLine mute wors, great.

Note that you have to play up in the range for this technique.  Generally above the bass staff.

You are probably correct on his name. It was long ago and my memory isn't as sharp as it used to be. But, it was definitely a stone lined mute. When I got back to college and demonstrated it everybody in the section bought them. It fit my 4H fine. I imagine on a bigger horn you might need to build up the corks a little.
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« Reply #7 on: Today at 08:03 AM »

I believe you are referring to Quentin "Butter" Jackson.  Great player.

I heard from someone else that they used a "Non-Pareil" trumpet mute which they built up the corks on.  The Non-Pareil isn't made any more and if a StoneLine mute works, great.

Note that you have to play up in the range for this technique.  Generally above the bass staff.

My current favorite small plunger mute is an Stomvi convertible trumpet cup mute with the cup part off. I have a number of Nonpareils and other trumpet straight mutes, and this one cuts them all in terms of projecton and "buzz." I looked online and the current Stomvi adjustable looks like it might be different than this one. Try one...if you can find it...and see.

S.

P.S. The H&B pixie mute does not radically change the pitch of the horn upward...as do the smaller straight mutes like the Nonpareils...and it is much more usable in terms of overall range. It is less...piercing...in sound that the smaller mutes as well, but in a big band/short solo, "piercing" is what you want. Listen to the daddy of them all...Tricky Sam Nanton...with the Ellington band.

Like dat!!!

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