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« Reply #20 on: Dec 07, 2017, 05:57AM »

This is another slap in the face to Muslims. This POTUS constantly displays his hatred for them, and as long as he is in the White House we will never be an effective mediator for Peace in the Middle East.  This move is also going to inspire Extremist Muslim Terrorists to increase there efforts for terrorist attacks in the US.  We have a long history of supporting Israel (right or wrong) over all other interests in the region, is it any wonder that other factions over there hate us. 
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« Reply #21 on: Dec 07, 2017, 07:21AM »

In 1848 there was no country called Israel.  In fact, even the British domination had not occurred yet.

Shortly after the partition vote in 1948 the Haganah captured Jerusalem from the Arabs.  Israel has consistently claimed Jerusalem as its capital, although there are resistances in the area.

I meant 1948.

And the old city is in East Jerusalem, which was in Jordan until the 6-day war.

Point remains: captured territory, disputed territory.
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« Reply #22 on: Dec 08, 2017, 02:07PM »

I'm ready to call this a bit of a nothingburger. It will **** a lot of people off for a while, but it isn't really anything but a recognition of reality that was already legislated by the US Congress more than 20 years ago. It does not preclude the Israelis and the Palestinians from negotiating a Palestinian capitol in East Jerusalem should there ever be serious talks again. For once, I am willing to give the Orangutang a bit of slack on this one. We'll see where it leads.
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« Reply #23 on: Dec 08, 2017, 03:10PM »

Maybe, but the furor was unnecessary and people will end up dead and injured as a result.
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« Reply #24 on: Dec 09, 2017, 05:37AM »

True, but, sadly, people end up dead and injured in that region for pretty much any action that is taken, no matter how trivial. We'll see if this has the planned effect of a positive jolt to the system.
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« Reply #25 on: Dec 09, 2017, 02:27PM »

Four people have already been killed by Israeli troops over the last three days, after violence erupted in Gaza in response to President Donald Trump's announcement on Wednesday.

It is not surprising that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has refused to meet US Vice-President Mike Pence during Mr Pence's visit to the region this month. I think Pence had better be very careful where he goes on that visit. His presence behind Trump when he made the announcement makes him a prime target for Palestinian factions.
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« Reply #26 on: Dec 09, 2017, 04:56PM »

True, but, sadly, people end up dead and injured in that region for pretty much any action that is taken, no matter how trivial. We'll see if this has the planned effect of a positive jolt to the system.

Shazam...There may be a bit of agreement here...Crazy Times!
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« Reply #27 on: Dec 09, 2017, 08:02PM »

Shazam...There may be a bit of agreement here...Crazy Times!

Well, don't get me wrong. He gave up the US' biggest poker chip and got absolutely nothing in return. He has proved over and over again that he is absolutley terrible at negotiating, and this move has further distanced the US from our traditional allies. He is isolating us a at very dangerous time in the world. That said, this will get some people killed, but it may not be the totsl disaster many think it is.
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« Reply #28 on: Dec 09, 2017, 10:20PM »

The problem is, we've moved from "not a disaster" to "might not be a disaster"

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« Reply #29 on: Dec 10, 2017, 04:59AM »

The problem is, we've moved from "not a disaster" to "might not be a disaster"



Again, WELL....the region is, and has been for centuries, a disaster. My point was this bit of buffoonery might not be an immediate calamity other than a few more pointless deaths.
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