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« Reply #20 on: Dec 12, 2017, 04:46AM »

I'm not writing Doug Jones epitaph just yet. I realize it IS Alabama, but we saw a massive uprising of "Indivisible" and "Resistance" voters create tidal wave victories in Va. and other states in the recent election. We'll find out today if those movements are real. I expect a close race one way or the other, but I will not be in the least shocked if Jones wins by 10 points or more. He would in pretty much any other state, and if these movements ARE real, he may even in Alabama.
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« Reply #21 on: Dec 12, 2017, 06:04AM »

• Democrats will whine and writhe. 
   But they can and will do nothing to stop the Trumpling of American values until the November 2018 elections. 
   By then, so much damage will be done that it will not be repairable in my lifetime.   :cry:
Well the Democratic voters could come out in force and vote against Mr. M oron.  Surely the Trump election has thought them how to avoid an a sshole.
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« Reply #22 on: Dec 12, 2017, 08:11AM »

Doesn't really work that way.  The Democratic base is hard to get enthused about a candidate (and therefore vote), but is easily disheartened (and therefore stay home instead of vote).  Also, a large part of the Democratic base are minorities.  The Republicans in power in Alabama have been making it harder to register and to vote for those people. 

The Republican base is in areas where registering is easier and will come out to vote (if only to keep the Democrats from winning.)

If Jones wins, it will be an amazing upset.
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« Reply #23 on: Dec 12, 2017, 08:27AM »

If Moore wins, it will be a disaster for the Republicans. He will be an albatross around their necks and a never ending distraction.

That said I certainly hope he doesn't win.
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« Reply #24 on: Dec 12, 2017, 08:33AM »

I find it amazing how many single issue voters there seem to be in Alabama.  Just because Jones is Pro Choice (not necessarily pro Abortion) they won't vote for him.  He clearly didn't explain the pro Choice position very well and the nut-jobs managed to hang the "baby killer" label on him.
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« Reply #25 on: Dec 12, 2017, 08:45AM »

I find it amazing how many single issue voters there seem to be in Alabama.  Just because Jones is Pro Choice (not necessarily pro Abortion) they won't vote for him.  He clearly didn't explain the pro Choice position very well and the nut-jobs managed to hang the "baby killer" label on him.

I thought Don identified his fan base very well this morning in his tweet criticizing Mr. Jones (as well as Gillibrand, the Clintons, the lying women nobodies who accused him of sexual harassment, Nancy and Chuck, the Russian investigation, and fake news): the pro-life crowd, pro law and order (not "soft on crime" like Mr. Jones, the prosecutor of the KKK bombers), anti-illegal immigration, and anti gun control.
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« Reply #26 on: Dec 12, 2017, 08:47AM »

I find it amazing how many single issue voters there seem to be in Alabama.  Just because Jones is Pro Choice (not necessarily pro Abortion) they won't vote for him.  He clearly didn't explain the pro Choice position very well and the nut-jobs managed to hang the "baby killer" label on him.

The labels/epithets fanatics and dogmatists stick on you have nothing at all to do with how well you've explained the concepts they're actively "misunderstanding".
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« Reply #27 on: Dec 12, 2017, 05:22PM »

Too bad the 'family values party' cares not a whit for said values.  It's all a film-flam to get votes.
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« Reply #28 on: Dec 12, 2017, 07:29PM »

As of this moment it appears that a lot of Alabama agrees with the sentiment of the title of this thread.  Luther Strange would have won in a walk-over.  Moore appears to be losing by under 1%.

Recounts, anyone?
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« Reply #29 on: Dec 12, 2017, 08:23PM »

Hooray! Almost half of Alabama voters chose the sane, responsible candidate. That's like almost most of them.

There's going to be a lot of bitching about the write-in vote which are more than the margin of victory.


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The chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee urged Alabama’s newly elected Democratic senator, Doug Jones, to “do the right thing” and vote with Republicans.

and go to the mall to pick up 14-year-old girls.




Roy Moore Retires From Politics To Spend More Quality Time With Someone's Kid



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« Reply #30 on: Dec 12, 2017, 10:46PM »

Black voters turned out huge.  I'm impressed.

African American Voters Made Doug Jones a U.S. Senator in Alabama

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Election day defied the narrative, and challenged traditional thinking about racial turnout in off-year elections and special elections. Precincts in the state’s “black belt,” the swathe of dark, fertile soil where the African American population is concentrated, reported long lines throughout the day, and as the night waned and red counties dominated by rural white voters continued to report disappointing results for Moore, votes surged in from urban areas and the black belt. By all accounts, black turnout exceeded expectations, perhaps even passing previous off-year results. Energy was not a problem.

Exit polls showed that black voters overall made a big splash. The Washington Post’s exit polls indicated that black voters would make up 28 percent of the voters, greater than their 26 percent share of the population, which would be a dramatic turnaround from previous statewide special elections in the South, including a special election for the Sixth District in Georgia which saw black support for Democratic candidate Jon Ossoff dissipate on Election Day.


However, it took a gi-normous GOTV effort by the Dems. They won't be able to do that everywhere.



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« Reply #31 on: Dec 13, 2017, 02:43AM »

All the more remarkable since AL has rigged voting so that it seriously suppresses the black vote.
 
The truly disgusting thing is that it takes a candidate as bad as Moore before a great many Republican Alternative Values Voters will actually refrain from supporting even rather extreme and overt moral and intellectual bankruptcy.
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« Reply #32 on: Dec 13, 2017, 07:48AM »

Could this signal the end of the Republican bulldozer - for a while at least?
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« Reply #33 on: Dec 13, 2017, 08:42AM »

I finally heard what the problem was with current Senator Luther Strange, defeated by Moore the GOP primary, appointed by the AL gov to replace Jeff Sessions.

It's not that he wasn't conservative enough.

It turns out that the governor of AL had a sex-for-public-money scandal coming down on him, pursued by none other than then AL Attorney General... Luther Strange. The timing of events regarding the scandal and Strange's appointment to the Senate lead many people suspect that the appointment was made in return for holding back the investigation.







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« Reply #34 on: Dec 13, 2017, 10:37AM »

"Strange's appointment to the Senate lead many people suspect that the appointment was made in return for holding back the investigation."

The responses write themselves.
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« Reply #35 on: Dec 21, 2017, 12:16PM »

Sore loser Roy Moore


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The second link Moore posted was from the conservative extremist site WorldNetDaily, which claimed that “Muslims and Marxists delivered for Doug Jones.” The article bemoans that these groups “rallied thousands of  black, Latino, and Muslim voters behind Doug Jones,” but it doesn’t actually implicate anyone in any wrongdoing. Moore’s supporters left comments encouraging him to keep fighting. Moore had previously said he does not believe Muslims should hold public office.


I understand the low turnout among 14-year-old child brides also hurt his chances.
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« Reply #36 on: Dec 21, 2017, 12:23PM »

Sore loser Roy Moore



I understand the low turnout among 14-year-old child brides also hurt his chances.
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« Reply #37 on: Dec 21, 2017, 12:25PM »

Sore loser Roy Moore



I understand the low turnout among 14-year-old child brides also hurt his chances.
:D

What I find particularly suspicious is the fact that some of his supporters come out saying that it is acceptable for an older man to date a younger woman, then they cite the bible.

Yet, Moore denies knowing any of the women who accuse him.

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« Reply #38 on: Dec 21, 2017, 12:28PM »

:D

What I find particularly suspicious is the fact that some of his supporters come out saying that it is acceptable for an older man to date a younger woman, then they cite the bible.

Yet, Moore denies knowing any of the women who accuse him.

Hmmm

I don't particularly find that suspicious. 

He says he doesn't know any of them.  The supporters are simply saying it doesn't matter because even if he did date them, they don't care.
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« Reply #39 on: Dec 21, 2017, 04:38PM »

I don't particularly find that suspicious. 

He says he doesn't know any of them.  The supporters are simply saying it doesn't matter because even if he did date them, they don't care.

'Zackly. Roy Moore's purpose is to avoid looking like a pathetic perv who couldn't date women his own age (he admitted that when he was 32, he asked his dates' parents for permission! Did you, or any other normal person, have to do that?!) He's trying to approach some sort of decency, as judged by contemporary moral standards.

His followers are from Alabama. Their reaction to his unseemly interest in high school girls as a 32-year-old professional would be, "If he bagged a couple of them, good on him!" They're all trying to do the same thing.
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