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Baron von Bone
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« on: Dec 31, 2017, 12:58PM »

I'd chalk this one up under Our love of our own ... mythology is one of the most effective obstacles we face, keeping our best interests out of reach.
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 31, 2017, 02:06PM »

There are some problems with the premise of this article.

Some people will easily adapt to new jobs like programming robots to do their jobs.

Some people won't.  They are at their best with repetitive jobs like the ones that will be taken over by robots.

One fallacy in trying to apply this to the US: Sweden is committed to full employment and encouraging companies to retrain workers.  America allows companies to chew up and spit out "spent" employees with only a short stint of Unemployment Compensation.  Also American companies prefer to hire cheap foreign workers trained to do the jobs rather than training Americans to do the same thing.

I think a small amount of Socialism might be a good thing for helping the 99% keep heads above water.

Remember, if the 99% go down, they will drag down the 1% with them.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 31, 2017, 02:10PM »

That's actually the point of the article man, more or less--except that it's making the point rather than some argument that makes the point fallacious.
 
The article is simply about "In a world full of anxiety about the potential job-destroying rise of automation, Sweden is well placed to embrace technology while limiting human costs."
 
True, we're not so well placed, but that's not so much of an issue in the article as our failure to recognize that socialism can actually work quite well (the influx of too many emigrants being a potentially serious issue). It's up to us to recognize why if that's our inclination. The article doesn't suggest we should somehow switch to a Swedish form of government and adopt similar social programs and taxation. It would be nice if we could, but it certainly won't happen real fast even if most of us decided that's what we want to do. My point is simply that our political mythos don't really square with reality very well, and this article points out one case in which that's manifest. Many Americans (rather, 'Murcans) believe socialism is a horrible horrible evil. Ironically/sadly more than one 'Murcan has then suggested to me that things should be run like the Army in the same conversation in which they ranted some on the evil nature of socialism. This is how terms substitute for reasoning and understanding for many--the term doesn't really mean what it means, it's used more just to label something as bad or evil or the enemy. The actual meaning often has little or nothing to do with how a term is used, which is one major problem with actually trying to understand where Deplorables (et al) are really coming from. They don't tend to know better than to use highly misleading language, because within their circles the real Us vs. Them point is still clear.
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