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« Reply #60 on: Feb 04, 2018, 12:28PM »

Does anyone know if this is the bass trombone that was displayed at the Army Band Tuba Conference?  If so:

I only spent a few minutes playing the instrument because the 2nd valve lever interfered with my (very normal) left-hand grip (and Jonathan didn't have the right tool to adjust the paddle) but, ergonomics aside, I don't have any complaints about the instrument.  The valves blew pretty well, especially low C and B, the upper register was easy, and intonation was predictable.  I can't speak to the quality of the sound since we were in an exhibit hall.  I'm more of a "modern horn" kind of guy but at this price point I can't think of anything that touches this instrument for quality and play-ability.  Well done!

I also spent about 5 minutes playing the contra prototype. Compared to the Jin Bao/Wessex/Schiller/what-have-you Thein-inspired contra:
Pros:  no slide springs, bell at 3rd-ish position, rotary valves (as opposed to re-imagined Hagmanns).
Cons:  a somewhat unfocused blow, no built-in support.

I hope updates of both instruments return for the trombone conference in March!
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« Reply #61 on: Feb 04, 2018, 01:22PM »

Does anyone know if this is the bass trombone that was displayed at the Army Band Tuba Conference?  If so:

I only spent a few minutes playing the instrument because the 2nd valve lever interfered with my (very normal) left-hand grip (and Jonathan didn't have the right tool to adjust the paddle) but, ergonomics aside, I don't have any complaints about the instrument.  The valves blew pretty well, especially low C and B, the upper register was easy, and intonation was predictable.  I can't speak to the quality of the sound since we were in an exhibit hall.  I'm more of a "modern horn" kind of guy but at this price point I can't think of anything that touches this instrument for quality and play-ability.  Well done!

I also spent about 5 minutes playing the contra prototype. Compared to the Jin Bao/Wessex/Schiller/what-have-you Thein-inspired contra:
Pros:  no slide springs, bell at 3rd-ish position, rotary valves (as opposed to re-imagined Hagmanns).
Cons:  a somewhat unfocused blow, no built-in support.

I hope updates of both instruments return for the trombone conference in March!


Nice to hear positive comments John. The second valve lever on the pre-pros was very conventional and comfortable but the Chinese seem to have a habit of making second valve levers over long... I have no idea why. I worked hard to get a top quality feel that does not normally come at this price level and I hope that players will like the sound when they get to try it in concert halls. Only time will tell.

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« Reply #62 on: Feb 11, 2018, 07:55AM »

This instrument is getting some good reviews and press at TMEA in Texas. I'm sure others will chime in.
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« Reply #63 on: Feb 11, 2018, 02:04PM »

TMEA isnít until Thursday of this coming week... I have to be there Tuesday to start setting up. Wessex is doing a tour of Texas but they havenít been at TMEA yet. I plan to try this horn later this week.
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« Reply #64 on: Feb 11, 2018, 02:36PM »

TMEA isnít until Thursday of this coming week... I have to be there Tuesday to start setting up. Wessex is doing a tour of Texas but they havenít been at TMEA yet. I plan to try this horn later this week.
Sorry, sorry. Misunderstood where folks were trying the horn this weekend.
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« Reply #65 on: Feb 11, 2018, 02:47PM »

I think they were at UNT this weekend. Very cool!
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