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« on: Jan 22, 2005, 06:20PM »

I was looking into popular Jazz horns and saw that there are a few jazz trombonists that use the Conn 100H. I was just wondering about the Conn 100H's specs. Comparable to a King 2 or 3 B? Any drawbacks? Flexible in tone color?
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 22, 2005, 08:20PM »

Hate 'em.

The old Minick 100Hs are superb. I've played one, sadly it wasn't for sale. The new ones IMHO just lack a lot of color and flexibility. Some peope like them though. They're .500" bore, usually yellow brass all the way around. Size-wise it's between a 2B and 3B. If you wanted a setup like this I'd search for an old Elkhart 6H. That's what I have, they aren't too hard to find.

Just try out all you can. I hate the new 100Hs, but that's just me. Try it anyway. If you like it, go for it!
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 22, 2005, 10:38PM »

Elkhart 6H=Teh pwn!
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 22, 2005, 11:58PM »

Pretty much my observations, too (Andrew's). the 100H is supposed to be the model that takes over for 6H. Rather like undertake. (pardon the pun).
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 23, 2005, 11:59AM »

Quote from: "barnstormer07"
Elkhart 6H=Teh pwn!


What???
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 23, 2005, 12:05PM »

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Quote from: "barnstormer07"
Elkhart 6H=Teh pwn!


What???


LoL, sorry I'm half nerd.  Basically it means the 6H is awesome.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 23, 2005, 07:21PM »

If you want to buy a Conn, I second (third) the vote for an old 6H.  I bought one about two years ago and it's the best .500 bore horn I've ever played.

I owned a 100H for about 19 years.  I bought one of the first ones available in the Detroit area (1983) when I was in college.  It was different than the model offered today.  The bell was 8", and it had the curved hand brace like the Minick horn.  An old-timer in the area had a Minick horn, and the 100H looked quite similiar.  I don't know how the Minick played, because he wouldn't let me try it.  The 100H played much better than the 1982 King 2B I was playing at the time (a terrible horn).

My playing decreased in the 90's due to my marriage, kids, job, etc.  Then along came e-bay.  My second purchase was an Elkhart Conn 48H, and I couldn't believe how much better it was that the 100H.  It was far more open, especially in the upper register, and it slotted wonderfully.  I let my buddy play it, and he loved it, so I sold it to him (he plays alot in the Detroit area, and says it's the best horn he's ever owned).  I decided to try other horns, and I purchased and sold quite a few (3B's, Olds Recording, Bach 16, etc.).  Then I bought an Elkart 6H, and my search was over.  It blows like a charm and has a huge, warm sound.  The upper range is awesome.  I immediately put the 100H up for sale on e-bay, and haven't looked back since.

However, don't limit yourself to one horn or one manufacturer.  You have so much to chose from today, much more than when I was in college.  Try as many horns as you can before you buy.  Happy hunting.

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« Reply #7 on: Jan 23, 2005, 07:52PM »

I am currently not looking into buying a "jazzer", but I am just researching some horns. Thanks for the Info Guys!
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 24, 2005, 12:32PM »

I had a 100H (as well as a Minick) for a while.  

The Conn was a bit of a dog.  You'd clean and lube the slide and it would remain playable for, maybe, 30 minutes tops.  A trip down to the Slide Doctor resulted in a good slide for half an hour.  Not the SD's fault.  John Sandhagen in a recent post mentioned that there was a design or construction flaw that affected 100H slides. "Buyer beware" might apply if you're considering one of these horns.

By the way, I had a Minick .500 bore, 8" horn with the tootsie roll counterweights.  Not very similar to the Conn.  The Minick didn't say anything like "100H" on it either.
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 15, 2017, 01:38PM »

I have a 100HS which I chose over a Selmer Bolero and other notable gems at Dillon's. The slide is one of the best I have ever owned and the horn is responsive and well made. Not great at projecting but once I got a Wedge rim mp that helped a lot.  Tiny bit front heavy but not a deal breaker.  Guess I was just lucky....
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 15, 2017, 01:52PM »

I have a 100HS which I chose over a Selmer Bolero and other notable gems at Dillon's. The slide is one of the best I have ever owned and the horn is responsive and well made. Not great at projecting but once I got a Wedge rim mp that helped a lot.  Tiny bit front heavy but not a deal breaker.  Guess I was just lucky....

When about did you get that 100H from Dillon?  Don't see many of the silver ones and I traded mine in there back a few years ago.  Always wondered if I'd find out where it ended up.  Slim chance, but thought I'd ask.
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 15, 2017, 03:47PM »

What???

LoL, sorry I'm half nerd.  Basically it [Teh pwn!] means the 6H is awesome.

Thanks for the explanation, since I was totally at sea on that one. 
Compounded by the Urban Dictionary explanation:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teh%20pwn

Probably better to stick with standard English on this forum! 
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« Reply #12 on: Aug 15, 2017, 05:37PM »

Tbathras, I bought it in spring 2013.  The bell rim had suffered quite a whack on the slide side and tuning slide was dented too.  Traces of little removed dents here and there including the slide. All 3 lead pipes were there.  I had the dents removed.  Good horn for a player with a paint peeling tone, mellows it right out.  I actually have a dark sound but still liked the horn.
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 16, 2017, 03:30AM »

Leaving that Bolero at Dillon's was a tough decision! 😉
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« Reply #14 on: Aug 16, 2017, 05:39AM »

I had one that I bought untried when working on a cruise ship in the Caribbean. None of the 3 leadpipes fitted properly and had to be secured with Duct tape. The first thing I did when I got back home was to move it on. UMI really shot themselves in the foot when they dropped the classic 6H/5H horn.
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« Reply #15 on: Aug 16, 2017, 07:15AM »

Tbathras, I bought it in spring 2013.  The bell rim had suffered quite a whack on the slide side and tuning slide was dented too.  Traces of little removed dents here and there including the slide. All 3 lead pipes were there.  I had the dents removed.  Good horn for a player with a paint peeling tone, mellows it right out.  I actually have a dark sound but still liked the horn.

Might be mine.  I brought mine into Dillon's the spring of 2014 though, but it did have the dents you mention.  You sure it wasn't 2014?
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« Reply #16 on: Aug 16, 2017, 11:47AM »

 The bell was 8", and it had the curved hand brace like the Minick horn.  An old-timer in the area had a Minick horn, and the 100H looked quite similiar.  I don't know how the Minick played, because he wouldn't let me try it.  The 100H played much better than the 1982 King 2B I was playing at the time (a terrible horn).
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LOLing a little bit here, I had two section mates in the Air Force that had Minick horns, one was a 100-H style tenor & the other a bass. I never played so much as a lick on either one! They were very protective of their babies. They did have some great stories about Larry, as they were stationed at March AFB in SoCal & would drive there periodically to see the progress as they were being built.
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 16, 2017, 02:20PM »

Maybe it was 2014
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 16, 2017, 04:08PM »

(did everyone have TTF break on them? This thread ended in 2005)
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