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« on: Jun 02, 2005, 12:52PM »

anyone know where(online) i can find a good Eb alto/tenor(peck)horn fingering chart?

it would be much appreciated!!!

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« Reply #1 on: Jun 02, 2005, 01:34PM »

Here's a chart for mellophone; the alto horn fingerings are the same.
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/3620/mello6.html

Actually, I think they're the same as trumpet fingerings, aren't they?

Of course, this chart only works when you're playing music in the same key as the horn; if you start messing around with concert pitch music, life gets complicated.
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 02, 2005, 01:42PM »

... that's what i was afraid of... :cry:

um... i take it that they are written a major 6th higher than they sound?
...such that if i have a concert Eb on bottom line treble clef, it would transpose UP to third space C?  is this true?... i think it is... but just checking to be sure!!!

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« Reply #3 on: Jun 02, 2005, 01:54PM »

I'm not sure what the problem is.  Are you looking at Eb-transposed music and trying to play it on an Eb instrument?  If so, when you see an Eb on the treble staff, you play 2-3.  It comes out as a Gb, like it's supposed to.

This page says that it does indeed sound a major sixth lower than written.  Thus, if the written note were  , it would sound as flat  .

Are you looking to play some non-transposed music with an Eb horn?  Are you looking for a fingering chart to help with that?
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 02, 2005, 01:56PM »

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... that's what i was afraid of... :cry:

um... i take it that they are written a major 6th higher than they sound?
...such that if i have a concert Eb on bottom line treble clef, it would transpose UP to third space C?  is this true?... i think it is... but just checking to be sure!!!

justin


I think you may have it backwards.

For example,   (a written G) comes out as Bb and is played OPEN.

Your open notes are (bottom to top) Eb, Bb, Eb, G, Bb, [Db], Eb, written C, G, C, E, G, [Bb], C.  The Db I put in square brackets is like our Ab in 1st that is too flat to play.

So your Eb on the bottom of the treble staff will come out G, and is played 1-2.

Hope I haven't confused you too much.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 02, 2005, 02:03PM »

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I think you may have it backwards.


I originally thought so, too, but he says "a concert Eb would transpose UP [during the writing of the part] to third space C".  So yes, a sounded concert   flat is written   as a .  But I think the whole situation bears clarification; I don't know why the transposition is causing grief.
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 02, 2005, 10:54PM »

So, are you trying to read trombone music? If so, find a fingering chart for an E-flat tuba and use the fingering given for the note an octave lower (use the fingering for a      when playing a     ).
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 03, 2005, 03:38AM »

... and if so, here is a link to an Eb tuba (bass clef) fingering chart.
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 03, 2005, 10:41PM »

grief because i only read trumpet/peck horn music like a euph part up a tone and an octave... awful lot of sight-work... guess i'd just better learn it cold... or take that treble-clef alto part(in C) down a 4th into bass-clef(in C) and read it like a euphonium part... though then the sight-sound relationship would be even more screwy.... ah well...

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