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« Reply #40 on: Jan 28, 2006, 07:14PM »

tenor and alto trombone:

Michel Becquet , Braimir Slokar, Jorgen van de Rien, Joseph Alessi, Thomas Horch (former berlin philharmonic, now in Munich) , Alain Trudel,Christian Lindberg, Jacques Mauger (French soloist, former member of the Paris opera) ,Gilles Milière (professor at the Conservatoire de Paris), Danny Bonvin and Dankwart Schmidt (both Munich philharmonic), Olaf Ott and Christhard Gössling (both Berlin philharmonic), Jürgen Heinel (Berlin opera - Staatskapelle), Oliver Siefert (Broadcast symphnoy orchestra of Frankfurt and professor in Frankfurt), Stefan Geiger (Broadcast Symphony orchestra and professor in Hamburg), Hendricus Ries (Broadcast symphony orchestra of Cologne and former member of German Brass)), Enrique Crespo (former Broadcast symphony  of Stuttgart and German brass foundator), Georg Wiegel (Rotterdam philharmonic I think)

Bass and contrabass trombone:

Ben van Dijk, Volker Hensiek (Bamberg Symphony), Joachim Mittelacher, Siegfried Cieslik, Hermann Bäumer (all former member of the Berlin philharmonic I think), Uwe Füssel (Munich opera and German Brass), Stephan Poppe (Hamburg opera and former member of german Brass),
David Stewart (London Brass), Markus Blechner (Munich Broadcast Symphony),

I know several of them are not well known outside of their country, but I really appreciated the tone of all of them.
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« Reply #41 on: Jan 30, 2006, 08:12AM »

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I would like to add Alain Trudel

just what i was going to say Good!
also, i believe his sit has a few sample songs on it
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« Reply #42 on: Jan 31, 2006, 03:23PM »

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john kitzman principle of the dallas symphony orchestra!


so, i haven't heard it yet but my teacher says that his fave rendition of mahler 3 is by john kitzman.  

and i am shocked and appalled that Joe Alessi wasn't the first person mentioned let alone not until halfway through the second page.

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« Reply #43 on: Feb 01, 2006, 08:35AM »

Conrad Herwig has a nice smooth tone. He's not classical but he's good anyway.
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« Reply #44 on: Feb 01, 2006, 10:55AM »

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Quote from: "Tenorbone"
john kitzman principle of the dallas symphony orchestra!


so, i haven't heard it yet but my teacher says that his fave rendition of mahler 3 is by john kitzman.  

and i am shocked and appalled that Joe Alessi wasn't the first person mentioned let alone not until halfway through the second page.

~grant


just kidding, i must have forgotten that Alessi was mentioned first.

~grant
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« Reply #45 on: Mar 28, 2007, 01:45PM »

That Bob Cochran has a dang nice tone. :D

( I can say that since I don't play for a living and I don't have to worry about gettin' the I-saw-you-braggin'-on-da-forum-and-I'd-blacklist-you-if-I-could-you-egotistical-son-of-a-gun stink-eye from other pros in my area. )

But seriously, I sound really really nice, just ask me! And seriously handsome! And really cool and modest! ;-)

VERY bad taste in ties, though, I'm told. A few have been unkind enough to point out my overweight condition and duck feet...and my frequent sight-reading errors...and no jazz improv skills these days, way rusty...don't always play perfectly in tune...still make time/rhythm mistakes...kids point at me and laugh, dogs bark at me, cats hiss.....Don't know

But I sounds good, I sez!
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« Reply #46 on: Mar 28, 2007, 03:45PM »

Oh yeah...

Ian McDougall!  No one plays prettier.  Some have played as pretty, like Urbie and a few rare others.  And it's not a sickly-sweet pretty, it's always tasteful, always warm, always examplary.  A hugely underrated player, at least on this forum.
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« Reply #47 on: Mar 28, 2007, 04:15PM »

I second James Markey he has such a nice legato, and my bass trombone hero is Randy Hawes, I think I melted that CD from listening to it so many times.
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« Reply #48 on: Mar 28, 2007, 04:19PM »

OK, OK, I know you said classical players, but . . .

JJ Johnson.  Mr. Tone, for my money, in the jazz world and if memory serves influential for Mr. Alessi as well.  Which is probably why I like his tone for classical players best.

Totally subjective, but Alessi and Johnson create(d) my favorite tones!
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« Reply #49 on: Mar 28, 2007, 05:02PM »

Oh, dat's right, first post did specify classical, oh well.....great tone is great tone.
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« Reply #50 on: Mar 28, 2007, 05:33PM »

I am going to say James Markey for tenor, being in a practice room with him when he was my teacher a Montclair State was amazing. Also when he played the Creston at ETW last year, WOW! I couldn't believe the sounds coming out of his bell. Mark Lawrence as well, I have heard him live and it was amazing.

For Bass Trombone: My #1 pick is Blair Bollinger of Philly. What a sound! Then of course there is the rich and creamy sound of Douglas Yeo. Also, a very important person that has one of the most beautiful sounds I have heard is John Rojak. He also a extrememly nice down to earth person. He also a great teacher, I learned a ton from the one time I met with him. Along with these guys, the Bass player from Trombones de Costa Rica gets and awesome sound as well, I couln't believe what I heard when I saw them perform "Toccata & Fugue in D Minor". There are so many players with great tone, and the best part is they all have their own unique characteristics that make it their own.
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« Reply #51 on: Mar 28, 2007, 06:00PM »

What's the difference between a great classical tone and a great jazz tone? Is there a difference?
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« Reply #52 on: Mar 28, 2007, 06:03PM »

Here's my list.  (No order)

Tommy Dorsey
Art Sayers
Billy Rausch
Joe Howard
Gardell Simons
Bobby Byrne
Lloyd Elliot
Dick Nash
Murry McEarchern
Geo. Roberts
Urbie
Ralph Sauer
Gordon Pullis
Watrous
Bill Harris
Robert Marsteller


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« Reply #53 on: Mar 28, 2007, 10:14PM »

What's the difference between a great classical tone and a great jazz tone? Is there a difference?

Good question, which, even though I raised the distinction, I now can't really clarify.  A great classical tone, to me, is a very broad one, perhaps rounder, almost french horn-like.  And, to my less-trained ear, there is a little more uniformity of tone among classical players, in the sense that they're typically striving for that larger, rounder sound.  And generally it seems to me is developed using a similar set of teaching criteria, with the result that the difference in tone between legit players is more nuanced and subtle (though no less distinct). 

A great jazz tone is, on the other hand, undefinable except by personal preference, because it's goal is the individual statement.  While to my ear, Alessi and Lindberg are very distinct in tone, they seem to be shooting at the same target. And I respect the nuanced differences in both.  Steve Turre and Bill Harris, on the other hand, seem to have completely different conceptions of the instrument.  Which is why I love one and really don't like the other. 

Or maybe it's like pornography.  You just know it when you hear it. 

Or maybe I'm just talking out of my a**.  Won't be the first time. 
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« Reply #54 on: Mar 29, 2007, 02:37AM »

For jazz, the more individual the tone, the better. Frinstance - Lawrence Brown and Vic Dickenson. Of course, it is really a combination of tone and phrasing that enables one to pick the great jazz trombonists after only a couple of bars of a blindfold test.
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« Reply #55 on: Mar 29, 2007, 03:09PM »

Lots of people (though not a majority of trombonists, I would say) can produce a great tone on the trombone, not to trivialize it, because it isn't easy to always sound good when playing the difficult literature.

What this thread reminds me of is that the trombone is a magnificent instrument.  In the right hands, playing the right music, the sound alone causes goosebumps.  At least it does for me, which a large part of why I still play it.

There is also a vast spectrum of different sounds that can be made, from enormous and majestic, to lyrical and sweet, to whispering......many shades of sound, many valid ways to approach playing that can all sound good.
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« Reply #56 on: Mar 31, 2007, 02:10PM »

Jaques Mauger!
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« Reply #57 on: Apr 11, 2007, 05:28PM »

Im surprised not to see more mention of Charles Vernon on here...
that sound is just like chocolate pudding (in a positive way), oh and that legato playing...
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« Reply #58 on: Apr 11, 2007, 05:33PM »

Im surprised not to see more mention of Charles Vernon on here...
that sound is just like chocolate pudding (in a positive way), oh and that legato playing...
-Swifty

Could you post a link to just a taste?
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« Reply #59 on: Apr 11, 2007, 05:38PM »

go to www.usftrombones.com and click on resources and then click Ballade - Ewazen
enjoy :-)
-Swifty
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