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« on: Nov 23, 2003, 05:39AM »

I just got a Jupiter slide trumpet (also soprano trombone) and am having a hard time adjusting to the difference in size of the mouthpiece (it uses a trumpet mouthpiece).  Anyone else play a slide trumpet?  Suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 23, 2003, 07:08AM »

I don't play slide trumpet, but I play trumpet. Work on long tones and stuff--and get a trumpet method book...

Try Rubank Elementary Method for Trumpet and Cornet.

Trumpet methods have fingering charts, not slide charts.
Assuming that this slide trumpet has 7 positions, once you've figured out where they are (guide by playing a chromatic scale), learn the notes from the chart, relating fingerings to positions.

POSITION ~ FINGERING (approximate)
1st position ~ Open
2nd position ~ 2
3rd position ~ 1
4th position ~ 12
5th position ~ 23
6th position ~ 13
7th position ~ 123

Also, you can think of it this way:
1st valve: pitch lower 1 whole tone
2nd valve: pitch lower 1 half tone
3rd valve: pitch lower 1.5 whole tones

Buzzing would also help you get used to mouthpiece, I believe... buzz melodies and such.

Um, I guess that's my two cents.
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 23, 2003, 01:01PM »

I started a thread on choosing a mouthpiece for the soprano trombone in the Mouthpieces section of the forum. I'm trying the Schilke 24 now.


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« Reply #3 on: Nov 23, 2003, 01:59PM »

Today's "slide trumpets" are not trumpets at all, although they do share the same mouthpiece. The bass trumpet uses a small shank trombone mouthpiece, but is it a trombone, let alone valve trombone? IMHO, no.

A true slide trumpet is different than the instrument that many today call a "slide trumpet" which has a single slide, rather than a U-shaped one. The trombone slide is a large part of what makes a trombone sound and play the way it does. The soprano trombone shares the same uniqueness as the tenor does. One thing I don't understand about soprano trombones, though is why they use trumpet mouthpieces, rather than a cornet or flugelhorn shank? Trumpet mouthpieces are so long, shallow, and tight (well, the more common ones anyway), which leads me to think that a shorter, deeper mouthpieces with a larger throat would suit the soprano trombone better. After all it's a trombone, so it should be able to retain at least some of fullness of a trombone sound.

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« Reply #4 on: Nov 25, 2003, 08:13AM »

A good way to adjust to a tpt mp for a soprano is to buzz it.  My primary trombone is bass so I practice it the most.  When I need to work tenor (often) or soprano (seldom) into my routine I begin with mp buzzing.  If I have enough lead time I'll buzz for a day or two before picking up the horn.  This helps my chops adjust to the smaller mp.  And while in doubling mode I buzz both mp's beginning with the smaller before I pick up a horn.


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« Reply #5 on: Nov 25, 2003, 08:39AM »

Originally posted by Dan H.:
Today's "slide trumpets" are not trumpets at all, although they do share the same mouthpiece . . . a true slide trumpet is different than the instrument that many today call a "slide trumpet" which has a single slide, rather than a U-shaped one.

I've seen both, recently, but far more often I see the soprano trombone. I think Getzen made slide trumpets until pretty recently -- if they're not still making them.
But I agree -- the valve trombone (including the flugabone) and the bass trumpet are very different animals.
As far as getting used to the micro-mouthpiece . . . it took me at least a half hour to start getting reliable sounds out of one of those things (not counting various random honks, squeeks and dead air). Then it took a fair while before I could really kind of play a trumpet -- as in make it produce trumpet-like sounds strung together kind of resembling music. I'm still working on developing a functional emouchure that'll last for more than a song or two (could have been there quite a while ago, but I just haven't put in the time). I think, though, that in whatever range you may have, you'll find that with the air support you're used to using, you'll be able to get pretty decent tone with a trumpet fairly easily.
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